User talk:SelimLakhdar/sandbox

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Forme

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Résumé Introductif

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"while reaming" : "while remaining"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"relies on the fact " : un peu lourd, non?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

" if a bot succeeded" : toujours au présent
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"so theoretically if a bot succeeded on the test it could be used for solving AI problems"  : "so theoretically," ... reformuler en supprimant le "if"? Tjrs au présent (T.A.P.)
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"access took priority to security" : pas anglais (et TAP)
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

History and evolution

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"which consists on trying" : "which consists in trying"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"growth of Internet users" : growth of the number of users ? How to say ?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

" between normal human actions, and automated actions through bots" : what is opposed to here? Is "normal" compulsory in the end?
"The first attempt led to different attacks to break the system which lights up new ways" : led(past)#lights up(present). + light up : rather trigger?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"not a easy" : "not an easy"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"challenge have to " : has
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

" for human to pass" : humans
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"and hard as" : "as hard"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"was introduced like, " : "were introduced, like"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"puzzle based CAPTCHA" : ", the puzzle based CAPTCHA"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"new HIPs systems" : "new HIP systems"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"was using" : "is using"?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"if hackers could break it" : "if hackers could not break it"?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"1024 integer " : "1024 integers"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Usage and utility

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"HIPs systems" : "HIP systems", rather?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"Generally they are" : "They are generally"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

is HIPs acronym usable? Not seen in the Internet
Yes, i reused it from somes articles.

SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"control the access" : rather "control access"
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"this scheme works also to detect" : to detect what?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"usage" : usages
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"crawler." : "crawlers."
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"Interactions of social networks: tracking online bots." : maybe reversing the order "tracking online bots (in the interactions of social networks)" to keep listing gerundive forms (-ing) beginning the list?
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SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"Specifically, in the TLS protocol to counter the MITM attack." : lacks the reminder of what is specifically, reformulation needed.
There are wiki links.

SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Usability/accessibility

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"trade off" : trade-off
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"between the accessibility and the strength" : "between accessibility and strength"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"The HIP have to" : "The HIP has to"
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"They state" : who ? (authors presumably) --> to "anonymize"
Done, suppress they state
Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"or a success rate" : "or have success rate"
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"rate of .01%" : is it a correct way of displaying a rate? I couldn't find any like this in the Internet
Yes, it's 0.1%
Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"human recognition filed" : " human recognition field"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"analysis and understand" : "analyses and understands"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"it don't" : "it doesn't"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"leaded" : "led"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"is the greatest security related" : "is the greatest security-related"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"security related problems" : "security related problem"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"for user with disabilities" : "for users with disabilities"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"audio based" : seems "audio-based" is more correct
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Security

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"to defeat computer bots from bypassing" : "to prevent computer bots from bypassing"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:13, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"bot-attacks" : "bot attacks"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:13, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"CAPTCHA is usable" : "CAPTCHA be usable"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:13, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"bot-attacks" : ditto
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:13, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

AI usage

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"a way to advance in that filed" : [field] "a way to progress in that field"?
Yes, you are right.
Nowitsover (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"But in another hand" : usually used after a "in one hand" first sentence
Yes, you are right, i just suppress "in another hand".
13:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
"well oriented" : "well-oriented"
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Nowitsover (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"This came from the segmentation problem, which relies on breaking the interlacing between words, but this seems to be broken" : difficult to understand (this, which, this). A problem ("segmentation problem") cannot "rely" on something.
The distorted text came from the segmentation problem, the challenge for AI is to breaking the interlacing between words, but this seems to be broken.
Is it better ?
Nowitsover (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Segmentation resistance

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"we" : third person only
I don't find any we is this part
Nowitsover (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"break a text-based CAPTCHA" : rather 'hack' or 'bypass' than 'break', no?
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"More we combine effects for designing a strong HIP more the HIP is secured" : [the more ... the more] --> "The more effects for designing a strong HIP are combined, the more the HIP is secured"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Challenge generation

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"many instance" : "many instances"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:06, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"an aspect on interest" : "an aspect of interest"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:06, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Public Sources

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"Beyond the several rules to design" : "Beyond the preceding rules to design"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"the more effective" : "the most effective"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"CAPTCHA systems which relies" : "CAPTCHA systems which rely"
"on private database or algorithms" : "on private databases or algorithms"
"This risk of an" : lacks a verb  : "This" ... (emphases, focuses,) raises the ... "risk of an"
"trying to reverse engineering" : improper use : "trying to reverse engineer" or " trying to use/do reverse engineering"
"CAPTCHA systems which rely on private databases or algorithms to generate their challenges are prohibited. And this rise a risk of an adversary generating all possible tests and using a hash function to look up the answer in a pre-computed database or he try to do reverse engineering." is this good for you ?
Nowitsover (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

--G7tiiR (talk) 22:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

CAPTCHAs

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"It depends on the gap" : "It relies on the gap"?
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"many other implementation" : "many other implementations"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"Many fields was studied" : "Many fields were studied"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"find body parts" : "body parts finding" to keep the gerundive listing?
Yes, its sounds better
Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"deciding nudity" : also reverse in "nudity deciding", though it's a quote, no?
Yes, it is
Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"in different categories;" : announces a list : rather with a ':' in the end, and, better to use lists (*), rather than sections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.199.32.90 (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Is it better now ?
Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Text-Based CAPTCHA

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"It depends on" : "it relies on"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Image-Based CAPTCHA

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"It depends on" : "it relies on" (and so, modifying the 'relies on' just after)
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"difficulty for computers" : "difficulty for bots"?
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"some aspect" : "some aspects"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Non-Visual CAPTCHA

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"Those CAPTCHAs was" : "Those CAPTCHAs were"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"sonor recognition" : "sound recognition"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Semantic CAPTCHA

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"to attacks using" : "to attack using" is convenient also
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Audio CAPTCHA

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"sonor deformation" : ditto
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Others approaches

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"those different technique" : "those different techniques"

--G7tiiR (talk) 13:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Attacks on HIPs

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"hackers/researcher" : "hackers/researchers"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"We can cite" : :-D
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"project PWNtcha" : "PWNtcha project"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"" PWNtcha stands for "Pretend We’re Not a Turing Computer but a Human Antagonist", as well as PWN capTCHAs. This project’s goal is to demonstrate the inefficiency of many captcha implementations. " : isn't that quotation too long? (and it's pure quotation :(
"and detect letters" : "and detect letters."
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"we can" : no, we can't (use 'we')
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Machine learning

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"It consist on" : "It consists in"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"pure recognition tasks which" : "pure recognition tasks that"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"machine learning based" : "machine learning-based" ?
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"text distortion based" : "text distortion-based" ? (even found text-distortion-based : a rule to hyphen words when 'adjectivization' is used?)

Stealing cycles (redirection)

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"One of possible attack" : "One of possible attacks"
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Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
"on a CAPTCHA system, it's to" : "on a CAPTCHA system is to"
Done
Nowitsover (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

--G7tiiR (talk) 13:48, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Fond

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Résumé Introductif

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"Designing an accessible HIP is a new major concern" : why? (argument esseulé)

-- G7tiiR (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

"It's related to the trade off between security and accessibility"

SelimLakhdar (talk) 09:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Challenge generation

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only two lines, can you densify a bit?
--G7tiiR (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

CAPTCHAs

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"was trying to achieve some goals." : which ones? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.199.32.90 (talk) 12:08, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Done !

SelimLakhdar (talk) 15:31, 29 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Others approaches

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"combining those different technique to come with a hybrid one." : what is a hybrid technique? Isn't it purely a "combination of techniques"? And why are these techniques "to come"?

--G7tiiR (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Stealing cycles (redirection)

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only one lines, can you also densify a bit?
--G7tiiR (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)Reply


Deuxième relecture de l'article

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intro

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Second paragraph : "This test", the reference is not clear. The previous sentence doesn't speak about an only test.
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Second paragraph : "This test ... for a bot", this sentence is redundant compared to the previous. Maybe maintain only the second part (after ',').
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The paragraphs 3, 4 and 5 are on the same subject so they can be regroup. Avoid isolated sentences.
You can add the wiki reference for "bot".
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History and evolution

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The paragraphs 2 and 3 can be regroup.
5th paragraph : In the last sentence, modify the second ',' to "and"
The paragraphs 4 and 5 can be regroup.

Usage and utility

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You can add the wiki reference for "front-end", "back-end" and "layer"
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Modify the ';' to ':' before the ref 11.
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In last sentence of this section, put the point before ref 13.
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Usability/accessibility

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Remove the '.' after ref 16.
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First paragraph : the 3th sentence is redundant compared to the previous.
Paragraph 2 and 3 : Specify when studies were conducted.
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The paragraphs 3 and 4 can be regroup.
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Security

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Specify who are Basso and al.
Done ! link in the ref
The sentence with "0.01%" is always in the previous section.

AI usage

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Remove the '.' after the ref 33.
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Move the '.' after ref 35 before ref 34.
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Segmentation resistance

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Regroup the two paragraphs (Avoid isolated sentences).
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Challenge generation

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Regroup the two paragraphs (Avoid isolated sentences).
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Public Sources

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You can add the wiki reference for "database".
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CAPTCHAs

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The paragraphs 2 and 3 can be regroup.
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Put the '.' before the ref 52.
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You can add the wiki reference for "noise" (in "Text-Based CAPTCHA" point)
I didn't find a related article
They are no references for each item of the list, is it normal ?
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Attacks on HIP

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Remove the '.' after the ref 55
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Before the ref56, modify <<. ">> to <<".>>
We normally use ""
You can add the wiki reference for "binarization".
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Machine learning

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Specify who are Bursztein and al.
Try to regroup the paragraphs.
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Stealing cycles

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Use the full word "pornographic" not "porn"
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ref et biblio

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Remove the parenthesis to the references.
The references are not linked to the biblio, here an example : [1]
For the references to a website or a pdf document for example, it's better to use a External Link section. Here an example :
"Les smart contracts : révolution sociétale ou nouvelle boîte de Pandore ? Regard comparatiste" (PDF). tendancedroit.fr (in French). Bruno ANCEL. extLien_1.
We had problems with our template, i don't know why it doesn't work :(

MedhiB (talk) 00:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC) SelimLakhdar (talk) 10:15, 30 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

  1. ^ Ref name & year