User talk:Shshshsh/Archive 41

Cite

Please take time and complete citations. I have repaired a few behind you. Please look over the page history and see what is up. —¿philoserf? (talk) 02:12, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Well most of them were okay, I'm using the tool. Shahid • ^Talk2me 02:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Shshshsh, coolio. Thanks for being aware. Many were not okay earlier today. That was before I saw you at work improving the article. Happy editing. —¿philoserf? (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, same to you. Shahid • ^Talk2me 02:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

100%

I completely agree... this should have happened a long time back. -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 22:11, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I wish she did it, Rahul, but truth is she's just not really passionate about acting - it just came by chance to her, and she took the opportunity to do the best she could. She might make occasional appearances here and there but I highly doubt she will resume a full-time acting career, it's just incredibly demanding in terms of time and effort. Shahid • ^Talk2me 22:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

True! And it also goes to show how sexist the film industry is. Imagine seeing Zinta romance someone like Varun Dhawan compared to how the Khans romancing actresses half their age. -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 17:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Haha totally! What an interesting pairing Rahul. In Hindi cinema women are considered too old at an age which for men is still too young. Remember Dimple Kapadia in Dil Chahta Hai with Akshaye Khanna? Even in such an urban and modern film his love for her couldn't have been realised because it would've been a big deal (among producers) for a young man to romance a beautiful forty something woman. But it's okay for SRK to romance 23 years his junior Anushka. Hilarious. I do think there's been change though, even if it's slight. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

It's a forever problem. But with actresses like Vidya Balan, Rani Mukerji, and Kareena Kapoor Khan starring in their own films and delivering solid hits, things are better than they have ever been. And of course, there's Tabu in Andhadhun. So there's hope. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. Let's see if their films keep doing well, because large-scale producers are very quick to stick a sell-by-date on actresses (of any age, but theirs in particular) as soon as a product is not profitable (in any industry, by they way, though more so in India). They don't want social change, they want money. Then the ladies have a choice - to either resort to lesser roles/films or keep fighting for their place. Tabu is special, because she was never particularly motivated by numbers and she is more closely regarded as an actress. But the other ones are stars, though Vidya is something else in my book. She managed to do what the likes of Tabu didn't do decades ago - do substantial work to great mainstream recognition. That's a great change. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Can't believe she's 45, she still looks like she did in the mid 2000s! I was wondering what she saw in Gene Goodenough and then I realised that he's rich! He looks less of an asshole than Nadia anyway. Will review the article tomorrow, OK?† Encyclopædius 16:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hahaha, Nadia is an asshole for sure. She's better suited for American film/TV, so I hope the Fresh Off the Boat spin-off works out well for her. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 16:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Blof, so much! I agree with you Krimuk, she's more suited for Western stuff - the Kal Ho Na Ho and Salaam Namaste type of films fit her like a glove. Let's see how Fresh Off the Boat fares though because honestly I saw her short appearance in that episode and didn't like her in it. :) Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:15, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Raveena tandon

Pl refer her interview with rj anmol for my life my story on zee classic It is clearly understood she is not born in 1974 but 70-71. Edit the needful as it is wrong Hemanng6 (talk) 06:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, can you give me a source? Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:05, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

David Constable

Small world, Blackwood, Caerphilly is only about 35 miles from where I live. :-)† Encyclopædius 17:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

The source is dead on the link I clicked, I wanted to mention he taught her in David Constable (artist)!† Encyclopædius 18:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Haha, thanks. I wouldn't say dedication now, I'm too interested in music and learning languages but I try to do things which maximise the growth of the site Wikipedia:WikiProject India/The 10,000 Challenge I recently started if you ever feel like expanding any of our crappy Bollywood film stubs!† Encyclopædius 18:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Sridevi

Hi, why did you revert my edit? Sridhar G (talk) 07:20, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Extra credit after promotion

The real coup for you would be to ferret out Dimple and Simple's Muslim birth names. I'm guessing also from the peculiar form of Dimple's testimony "(b)" that there was probably a rumor prevalent that Bitty had become pregnant well before the marriage. But that could constitute an extra-credit problem after promotion.  :) Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Interesting, where can you see it? Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Kapadia FAC

Can I give you some advice (and I am someone who has had Fowler troll his way through one of my reviews too):

1 Disengage from him and don't respond to any more of his comments. The more any discussion goes on, the worse it looks to the co-ords, so just stop arguing with him.

2 Have a look at the new sources he has searched for and see if there is anything of use there; (normally there isn't: he does a google search to see where names come up, but doesn't actually read what he finds, and 90% of the 'new finds' are worthless as far as the article is concerned). If there is anything of use, make sure you use it; if it's worthless, or only a passing reference, then post a single response saying which are worthless. Then disengage again.

3 DO NOT GET INTO A DISCUSSION WITH HIM! He is a very, very bad reviewer, and when he asks for something ridiculous, he'll poison an entire FAC to ensure it fails if he doesn't get his own way. The only way you can get passed it is not to reply and not to argue with him. If he raises no new reasonable and actionable points to be addressed: do not respond to him at all.

4 Pick up on all the comments that others have left for the article: pretty much everyone else will be acting in good faith, so treat them accordingly.

5 Trust the co-ords. They have seen this person at work before and know what he is like. They will ignore anything that is not actionable in his comments, including him pushing ridiculous points to try and break an FAC. When it comes to a close, if you've dealt with everyone else and they've all supported the article, his oppose on the religion of the parents of the subject will look even more ridiculous than it does now. But you have to help the co-ords by not adding to the noise in the review: just ignore him unless he raises a valid point. If he tries to argue over something, ignore him. He posts another ridiculous comment about something too trivial to mention: ignore him. Above all, if there is one thing you take from this: ignore him.

I hope this lot help. - SchroCat (talk) 07:38, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

SchroCat, thank you so much for this kind message. I appreciate that. Indeed, he tries to "poison an entire FAC". I think it should be mentioned on the FAC. He gave me a list of books in 90% of which the name of the actress is not even mentioned! His oppose is really based upon one word, can you imagine? I think of starting an ANI on his FAC "trolling" as you put it. Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:47, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother starting anything like an ANI: they don't care about FAC and will ignore it all. He is acting in such a way on FACs which will lead to him being banned from the topic at some point. Too many of his comments are too disruptive for him to be allowed to last for long. "His oppose is really based upon one word, can you imagine?": yes: it happened here: 2,000 words at that FAC and on the talk page on the word "professionally". He tried the trick of piling numerous book titles on another review of mine too, and of someone else I've seen. Again it was just a Google Books search that didn't actually bring up anything of note, but he thinks that if he throws lots of mud, some of it will stick. Just have a loot at the source and point out that the book makes only a passing or tangential reference and shouldn't be used. Just focus on the FAC for now and dealing with the good reviewers who are coming to help. Ignore him and don't get sucked into further discussions with him. He feeds of the negative and is too combative to be reviewing properly. - SchroCat (talk) 08:29, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Shshshsh, You need to stop engaging with Fowler. The guy's a second rate troll, and he feeds off the conflict and negativity. He is forcing the review to fail through your behaviour. Just stop. Ignore him and let the co-ords deal with him later in the process. If you don't stop talking to him, the review will fail and he'll be happy because he will have 'won'. That's all he cares about - not the article, not you, just about him winning, even if he sinks another review - he doesn't care. I don't know how many times I have to say this to you, but ignore him. - SchroCat (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Your kindness is amazing, thank you. But can I really ignore comments? Then his fake comments might be found as unaddressed. I think that the fact that other editors express their opinion on the article is good practice. The coordinators need to be aware of that. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes you can. Totally. I was a FAC coordinator for many years. We don't just count "Supports" vs "Opposes". I see you have already spoken to Ian, good. Ignore Fowler. Everyone can see what's going on (again). Graham Beards (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Graham, very much. I'll really need your support with the co-ords though if they interfere. I also started a discussion on the general FAC talk. If any of you have some constructive comments to offer, that would mean the world to me. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Shshshsh, trying to fight the matter on FAC talk is also something to avoid. You've made your feelings known, and the review and the rpoblem has been noted. I know this may be difficult advice to swallow, but let the whole thing drop now. Focus on the reviewers who are giving you good advice at the FAC, and ignore the rest. You will only damage yourself and the article if you keep pushing this. Fowler is a troll that needs to be dealt with at some point, and the more he acts as ridiculously as he does, the sooner that will be, but it won't come if you try to force it now. - SchroCat (talk) 20:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

• Hi. I scanned the DK article and there is one immediate big hole that I spotted. No image of Kapadia from her Bobby days. Do you think you could dig up something from the Bobby era?--regentspark (comment) 22:18, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi RegentsPark, there used to be a screenshot, for a which I used a fair use rationale, but it was removed. You mean a free image? If so then sadly there is none. Shahid • ^Talk2me 22:24, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, none of the FAs on actors from the previous decades include images from their earlier films, which is really a shame. Shahid • ^Talk2me 22:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Bummer. --regentspark (comment) 22:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Totally, I've had so many arguments about that - such an image would have enhanced the article significantly. I totally share your sentiment. Shahid • ^Talk2me 22:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

PLEASE - STOP adding walls of text of your own. It’s not helping. KJP1 (talk) 23:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

KJP1, where? On the talk page? Do you realise how many people share the same opinion about this user? It's shocking. Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear SchroCat, I saw you do it on other FACs, could you please do a source review for my FAC? Thanks, Shahid • ^Talk2me 12:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Shahid, I'm going to pass, I'm afraid. Given the involvement of a troll in that review already, I think anything I do will cause more heat and noise. - SchroCat (talk) 12:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

KJP1 - can you do a source review for my FAC? Shahid • ^Talk2me 13:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Not got the necessary time just now. KJP1 (talk) 07:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

KJP1 - do you know who can turn to? Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

You can log a request for a Source review at the top of this page, Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. KJP1 (talk) 05:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Dimple's upcoming films

Hey, just a small suggestion. You should add two of Dimple's upcoming films -- Brahmastra and Dinesh Vijan's untitled next -- to her article. Plus, this web series. Cheers! :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Right. Thank you, dear Krimuk, Shahid • ^Talk2me 08:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Dimple Kapadia

Hi Shahid. There might be an inconsistency in the ages you quote in the first para. There, you say, she was discovered at 16. Later, she was married at 15 with Bobby released 6 months later. I'm assuming that she married Khanna while already working on the film so shouldn't it say discovered at 15 rather than 16? --regentspark (comment) 19:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi RegentsPark, you're right, I just thought that "discovered" in the lead should rather reflect her age at the time of release, which is 16, and not the actual age at which Kapoor picked her for the part. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Just a thought. There might be a convention for this sort of thing. --regentspark (comment) 19:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

There is one but it is not mandatory, and not always do we have the exact dates necessary for such conversion. Actually she was 14 when he chose her, and I remember reading a piece which I can't find now (not that I find it relevant in the article anyway) said he really liked her spontaneity but was skeptical because at 14/15 she looked older than Rishi Kapoor (who was 5 years older!). Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

RegentsPark - since I respect your input, if you have any other queries, please don't hesitate posting them here or elsewhere. I think the article can only benefit from constructive feedback. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Something to keep your energy up. :-) † Encyclopædius 15:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For your hard work during the Dimple Kapadia FAC and valiant efforts to improve it in the face of adversity. † Encyclopædius 16:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

It's quite disheartening that an article you worked tirelessly on fails because of a single user's objection. I know that feeling, since Fowler&fowler derailed my attempts at taking Mullum Malarum to FA (despite all other users' support), and derailed yours too. Unlike me, who has given up on FACs because of how my mind was affected during the FAC, I hope you persevere and eventually succeed. So I wish you all the best for the article's second FAC attempt if it comes to be. --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:26, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, my friend Kailash, it's okay, really, I kept fighting throughout the process and the coordinator did make it known that she archived the nomination not because of his nomination but in spite of it. I believe in the article. And most importantly, please consider submitting Mullum Malarum again for FA. I think the co-ords at FAC already know who they're dealing with anyway. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Apradhi (1974 film)

Hi can you expand this, it's at AFD?† Encyclopædius 09:29, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry was busy, but you've done a good job. Shahid • ^Talk2me 12:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

You are welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your recent WP:HEYs of so many films at AfD! Appreciate the hard work. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much, greatly appreciated. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Adbhut sampadak! :-)† Encyclopædius 08:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wahan Ke Log

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Dharmendra film

Namaste mere dost. Aaj aap kaise hain? Is Meri Jung Ka Elaan worth keeping?† Encyclopædius 07:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Namaste! I think every film article is notable and worth keeping. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:44, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Encyclopædius (talk · contribs) - Before I go back to Kapadia, working now on several film articles starting with CCCC - do you think it could be taken to DYK based on my recent expansion (I've still got things to add)? Also, I think Veer-Zaara is deserves a GA status, don't you think? Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Not sure you saw this message, Encyclopædius. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

I didn't see it haha! CCCC also looks GA worthy! Great job! † Encyclopædius 15:17, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Encyclopædius. CCCC has improved even more now. I'll take it to GA later, I'm quite busy. What about Veer-Zaara? It's not my work but it's really, really good. I'm surprised it's not a GA. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:16, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that was why I said "also", both are worthy!† Encyclopædius 11:46, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

You think Smita Patil Memorial Award for Best Actress could be taken to DYK? Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:40, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Wahan Ke Log

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Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain

Hi! I working for an article about Kajol's film, titled Hum Aapke Dil Mein Rehte Hain (1999), but could you help me to find any grammatical mistake that i made in the article. If you find some or a lot, please tell me... :) Thank you... --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 08:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Nicholas Michael Halim: - Of course, my friend. Shahid • ^Talk2me 08:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very very very much for your help. ^_^ --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 11:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello! For the same page, I need a second grammatical correction, please, could you help me? After this, i will nominate the article as a GA? --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 13:10, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Filmfare

I'm so sorry for the mistake in the article Dimple Kapadia, because i just followed what i see in this FL, which i thought was right. --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 09:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Nicholas Michael Halim: haha it's okay my friend. :) Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

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Deleted references, but remaining WP:BLPPRIVACY concerns?

Hey there, am I missing something re: this. I see that poor references were removed for the subject's birthdate, but then why did their now-unsourced birthdate remain? How does an unsourced birthdate fit into our goals of making sure that biographies of living people are impeccably sourced and especially content that could be used to violate the subject's privacy? I'm hoping I'm missing something. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:56, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Hi there, my friend. The very first NDTV source in the early life section mentions her birthdate. The sources are indeed poor, and I don't think either the lead or the infobox need sources to begin with. Shahid • ^Talk2me 01:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your response. While ledes are not required to be sourced, there is no prohibition that they should include references, and adequate sourcing can be beneficial for WikiGnomes like me who need to be able to quickly dive in and decide what is and isn't properly sourced. When stuff gets deleted, especially without explanation, it's *very* difficult to chase down that content. I respectfully request that you please consider this moving forward, to help lubricate the content building vs. gnoming perspectives. Much obliged, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chori Chori Chupke Chupke

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Your GA nomination of Chori Chori Chupke Chupke

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• Apologies for my review not being so great with this one. Aoba47 (talk) 17:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

• Oh stop it, Aoba47 (talk · contribs), your review is amazing! Really. I was actually really impressed with how meticulous you were. I really appreciated the time you took to review this article, which is not my best work (I was just encouraged by a friend to submit it and I did without looking too much into it). If anything, it is me who has to aplogise. Thanks a ton. Shahid • ^Talk2me 21:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

• Of course. It all just made me super stressed for some reason lol. I hope you are doing well, and please message me if you ever need any help with anything. Aoba47 (talk) 23:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Dimple Kapadia

Hi again Shshshsh, I've added two [citation needed] templates to the section "Media image and artistry" where direct quotations seem to be uncited, though I did fix two of these. Also citation 34; "Dasgupta & Datta 2018, pp. 39–40" is defined twice with different content; I did try to fix this earlier in the c/e but couldn't quite work out the problem. The error message is "Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "FOOTNOTEDasguptaDatta201839–40" defined multiple times with different content". These errors will need to be dealt with before a second nomination for FA status. Good luck with your planned FA nom. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 00:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Revert

This [1] is an odd revert - your edit summary doesn't explain why you've done it. Could you come to the article talkpage and explain why you did it. I have, of course, undone your revert. SilkTork (talk) 17:06, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Shshshsh. Please explain your concerns on the talkpage. You are reverting sourced information from an article in development. If you feel that the edit is inappropriate, then open a discussion on the talkpage so your concerns can be addressed - your views might well be 100% correct, and the entire edit was wrong, or there may be aspects you hadn't fully considered, and the edit either in part or in full is acceptable. But none of this can be discovered while you are reverting instead of discussing. Clearly, a discussion cannot take place in edit summaries. ;-) Please do the right thing and raise your concerns on the talk page. This is a really awkward way of doing things. I am not your enemy here. I am not a vandal. I am an editor with some experience. I am aware I can and do make mistakes, but your edit summaries are not explaining what your concerns are - it appears you feel we cannot copy material within Wikipedia. We can, as long as we indicate where the material came from. Open a discussion so we can talk about this more fully. SilkTork (talk) 09:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

@SilkTork: Sourced information? Are you kidding me? The only awkward thing I see here is you copying (!) information from another article, word for word. I'm not even sure you are serious about it. I've explained everything in the edit summary, and yes, if the argument is short, like in my case, there's no need for a talk page discussion. You are copying someone else's work, which is merely a repretition of everything that should already exist in the career section. The idea of daughter articles is exactly to not have information repeated twice, as you are doing so blatantly on Amitabh Bachchan. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

• I've copied this to the talkpage: Talk:Amitabh Bachchan#Is this a joke? . SilkTork (talk) 10:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

FAC help

Hello again. Apologies for my super random message. I wanted to thank you again for your help with the "Candy" (Foxy Brown song) FAC, and I was wondering if you could possibly help with my current FAC since it is on a similar topic? I completely understand if you do not have the time or interest as it is a busy time of the year. I hope you are doing well and staying safe. Have a lovely end to your year! Aoba47 (talk) 06:23, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@Aoba47: Hi there! Of course! A little busy at the moment, but will get to it as soon as I have more free time. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:44, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you! Good luck with everything keeping you busy. Aoba47 (talk) 15:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hey there! Could you check how I handled Dimple Kapadia filmography? I wanted to cover her whole career, but the lead of the list is very long, and quite rightly: lists can't use summary style leads when there's no text after the introduction. I wanted to be accurate, so I've borrowed from her biographical article, which is unusual enough that I wanted to run it by you. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.8% of all FPs} 15:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: Hi, I think it's great, but I would still add just another line in the end, mentioning her films in the 2000s, otherwise it's lacking. Just a mention of Dil Chahta Hai, Leela, Luck by chance, Finding Fanny, and Tenet (which is a Hollywood film) would make it quite complete. Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:19, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Good point. I've added them. Just kind of got lost in the sea of film names while looking for a point to stop quoting (by the way, her main article (Dimple Kapadia) phrases things rather harshly: "Since the mid-1990s, Kapadia has worked less frequently.". Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.8% of all FPs} 17:39, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: Interesting. Since I'm about to put it up for FAC, if you have other such comments, please do let me know. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Shshshsh!

Happy New Year!

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@Fylindfotberserk: Thank you and same to you, I appreciate the message. Shahid • ^Talk2me 17:03, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks and welcome . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Srk and amitabh's filmfare special award statement

Hi, this is kishandevpillai9472

I would love to know why did you remove the facts of shah rukh khan and amitabh bachchan receiving filmfare special awards facts in 2004 and 2005, for Shah rukh khan? Kishandevpillai9472 (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Ok, I understood. Thank you for responding Kishandevpillai9472 (talk) 16:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Featured Article Medal
		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears, and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 16:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Congrats on getting Dimple Kapadia to FA! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:08, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Gog the Mild, for this kind gesture!

SNUGGUMS, your review was helpful, thank you for that and for this message. Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem at all :) SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Dimple Kapadia

Congratulations, Shshshsh! The article you nominated, Dimple Kapadia, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hindi

Hello, I need help from you. If you fluent in Hindi, could you tell me what this "press book" talking about? Thank you and have a nice day... --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 01:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nicholas, these are song lyrics. Shahid • ^Talk2me 10:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I thought that is a film review. I feel disappointed of it, but thanks a million for the barnstar... ^_^ --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 11:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Congratulations on Dimple FAC! Months of hard work paid off!! † Encyclopædius 10:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Encyclopædius, much appreciated. Shahid • ^Talk2me 10:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

What are you planning on promoting next? Rekha might be a good one to do!† Encyclopædius 14:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopædius, Yes, but it will be quite time-consuming. She is really quite a persona and much more prolific. I started working on her filmography page. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For bringing Dimple Kapadia to FA status with your hard work and perseverance. Keep up the good work :) Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Yashthepunisher, thank you so much, my friend. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Reply

Hello! How are you? I have been busy for many years, and very infrequently edit. I just saw you nominated Dimple Kapadia to featured status. Congratulations!--Dwaipayan (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your kind words! However, I do not have the time anymore, due to professional and family commitment. Will have to remain occasional/sporadic :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Devdas (soundtrack)

Hi! I am currently writing an article about Devdas, a period film based on Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay's 1917 novel of the same name which has been remake into a film for many times. I found that the soundtrack section is extremely long, so I thought that I have to make another article. But, the problem is the title for the article. Should I use "Devdas (soundtrack)" or "Devdas (2002 Hindi film soundtrack)". I am expecting your opinion. Thank you. --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 09:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

I just found the film's review from a website that I do not know. Do you know what website is this? --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 06:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nicholas Michael Halim, Devdas (soundtrack) is fine in this case. G Magazine is a women's magazine published by Chitralekha (weekly) so it's reliable. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Dialogue

Hello, sorry for bothering you... but I need your helps. I am working for the legacy section of the Devdas article, and I want to write about a famous dialogue from this film. The dialogue: "Babuji ne kahaa gaon chhod do, sabne kahaa paro ko chhod do..." (source) I have watched the whole film, but I do not remember when this dialogue appear and don't know the meaning as well. You may know what the English translation for it. Thank you! --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 12:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Nicholas Michael Halim: Very nice dialogue. You have the full translation here. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

2nd Star & Style-Lux Awards

Hi! I found this Illustrated Weekly of India article that stated Rekha won the Best Actress trophy at the 2nd Star & Style-Lux Awards (I never heard that award function), but she gave it to Smita Patil for her performance in Waaris. It make me really confused, can I write that she won the award on her Wikipedia article and Khoon Bhari Maang or not? By the way, since our first conversation I never know your name, what is it anyway? Thank you! --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 11:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Nicholas Michael Halim: Hi Nicholas, first my name is Shahid just as the signature suggests. :) I definitely think it could be mentioned on the Khoon Bhari Maang page, although, like yourself, I've never heard of this function either. By the way, your English has improved tremedously, way to go. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Help!

Hi! Are you there, please I really need your help right now. This user, Bonadea (I do not want to tag him but you can see the user on my talk page), keep reverting my edits on my articles about biographical books—you can check it through my user page. So, the problem is he tries to remove sources from Amazon that I cited. I do not know why, but he said that the website is unreliable and has given me two warnings on my talk page. First, I cited Amazon because many of Indian cinema-related good articles has used it (example: Dil Dhadakne Do and Dostana). Second, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources stated the only unreliable part from Amazon is its users' reviews. I really annoyed by his behavior! Can you help me by giving your opinion or argue with that user? He has said that he will block me if I revert all of his edits again and, of course, I do not want this to be happened! I have told him about this too but he still does not give me a respond. Please reply me as soon as possible because I really feel worried and scared right now! --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 07:03, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Dimple Kapadia scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 16 August, 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. A coordinator will draft a blurb - based on your draft if the TFA came via TFA requests, or from an existing blurb on the FAC talk page if one has been posted. Feel free to comment on this. We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Gog the Mild. I'm less versed in this procedure. I saw the blurb on the FACT, so I edited another one to make it follow the right format as it was used in previous FACs. Please do have a look and let me know if there's anything else I should do. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi. The FA nominators are frequently more aware of what is important about an article as it is trimmed down to a relatively brief blurb, so your contributions are most welcome. Your version looks fine, except there is a hard limit of 1,025 characters including spaces, so it will need trimming by at least 40 characters. Would you like to have a go at that, or should I for your approval? Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gog the Mild. It was quite a task, but I believe it's done now - please have a look and let me know if there is else to do. Shahid • ^Talk2me 00:48, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you today for the article "about an Indian actress who was recently seen in the Hollywood blockbuster Tenet. Many people who saw her for the first time in this film didn't know this lady has quite a career behind her."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. Congrats Shahid on the TFA! Great to see it! † Encyclopædius 09:51, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, my friends, Gerda Arendt and Encyclopædius. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:51, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Precious

Dimple Kapadia

Thank you for quality articles around Hindi films and its stars, especially Dimple Kapadia and Preity Zinta, but also Chori Chori Chupke Chupke and Bollywood, for expanding and updating in the field, for accepting advice generously. - Shahid, repeating (14 August 2010): you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2643 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Dilip Kumar

RIP. That's a huge name in Indian cinema if ever I saw one! 98 is an excellent innings! Hope you are well! Rekha to FA?† Encyclopædius 06:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopædius, indeed, a legend of Indian cinema. The Rekha article has still a long way to go, much work and research needed, and I'm short of time at the moment. How are you? Shahid • ^Talk2me 12:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Not buying the BS behind COVID vaccines and masks but otherwise in good health!† Encyclopædius 12:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Shahid!! I've been listening to Bhosle and Lata of late, and Amjad Ali Khan and Ravi Shankar. I listen to a massive range of music. Nothing like listening to Indian music early in the morning, pure bliss! Can you and Kailash29792 recommend me some Indian musical artists/singers who are among your favourites?₪ Encyclopædius 18:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Encyclopædius (talk · contribs) - wow, nice to hear that. I think Kailash can recommend you some brilliant talents from South India (my favourite is Chithra). Lataji and Ashaji are definitely my favourite, but I mostly go per music directors. Some of the great ones are Shankar–Jaikishan, R. D. Burman, Ravi, Ilaiyaraaja. Obviously, A. R. Rahman is in a league of his own. Among the singers, you might like Usha Uthup's energy and unconventional style - she often performs live (she hasn't been a particularly prolific singer in films because of her non-standard voice). Today, Sunidhi Chauhan and Shreya Ghoshal, Arijit Singh lead. Among the oldies, which I like the most, Mukesh and Geeta Dutt are great. But I'd know better if you could give me examples of particular music that you liked. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I love Ravi Shankar and Ali Akbar Khan, listening to their 1972 live album now . I've tried to find the best sitar, sarod and veena players and discover some artists. ₪ Encyclopædius 18:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Shahid Parvez I know, good name that eh? :-) ₪ Encyclopædius 19:00, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Haha I can't believe you are familiar with Shahid Parvez, good for you. Never thought you'd like these instruments (I know some people from your region might find sitar, for one, a little off-putting, but then many westerners like it and find it soothing), but I'm always amazed by how open you are to cultures different from your own; actually you've always been keen on exploring new cultures, languages and art forms. Shahid • ^Talk2me 23:17, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Listening to Geeta Dutt now...₪ Encyclopædius 13:23, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Very cool album Ananda Shankar (album)! Listening to Usha Uthup now.₪ Encyclopædius 17:56, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Let me know what you think though. Shahid • ^Talk2me 10:16, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

I like her! I've listened to all of your suggestions! Did you know a court case has been filed against the vaccines in India?. ₪ Encyclopædius 13:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Presenting this Editors barnstar for your tireless contribution towards the featured article Dimple Kapadia Challiyan (talk) 11:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Much appreciated, Challiyan. Thank you, Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Mullum Malarum

Mullum Malarum has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Kailash29792 - Hi there, my friend. I'm hardly active these days on WP. I doubt it may lose its GA status, there must be consensus for demotion. Shahid • ^Talk2me 11:57, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

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Shraddha Kapoor

Someone keeps bloating the article with the instagram claim and there is even no indication from the article that she currently features on the *highest paid* list. [2]. Would you mind checking it?- Priyamal21 Priyamal21 (talk) 08:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Input

Thanks for your input here. I am questioning nominating Police Police for deletion. The film has a long article by Rediff (can press the arrowkey 3 times to read on) and has a short source by The Hindu. What do you think? DareshMohan (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Don't refactor others' comments

Regarding this, there was no mistake to be 'corrected'. It's patronizing to assume others' comments need "formatting correction". Especially when that comment was from reply-link and thus formatted by a WMF deployed tool. Hemantha (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Hemantha (talk · contribs): I wish I could understand why you're being so defensive, but okay, point duly noted. I certainly didn't intend to patronise you, just to make it easier for the two of us to keep the discussion going. Shahid • ^Talk2me 16:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Right in that sentence, you're being again patronising, characterising my request as defensive. Repeated "suggestions to withdraw" aren't conducive to discussion anyway. Hemantha (talk) 01:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hemantha (talk · contribs): Your request is defensive, and the nomination, indeed, should be withdrawn. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:40, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Then your English grasp is as strong as your grasp of wikipedia policy. It is only appropriate that someone this touchy about his messages sees only defensiveness in simple requests to follow basic etiquette. Hemantha (talk) 13:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hemantha (talk · contribs) What a lame comeback - okay, I'm glad you're studying me and presenting some irrelevant diffs which have nothing to do with the current issue. I stand behind my every edit that you've cited, I see no touchiness there, certainly not the kind you're showing here, but anyway, it still doesn't cover your lack of understanding of WP policy. Let's just keep the rest of the discussion on the AfD rather than here. I'm not willing to waste my time on such tiring exhchanges. Shahid • ^Talk2me 13:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Please no; your contributions at that AfD have been to parrot others. No need to bludgeon it anymore. Hemantha (talk) 14:00, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Now this made me laugh. Considering the fact that you've uploaded a huge table with examples from other nominations - accusing someone else of parroting is really funny. Even funnier though is the second sentence - all you've done is addressing every single user who's cast their vote against your set view. Sorry, I'm not asking for your permission here on what I need to do. EOD. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, do you mind if I collapse everything below your vote? Starting from my comment. It doesn't really add to the AfD? Hemantha (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Re you've uploaded a huge table with examples from other nominations, you appear as uninformed as before? FYI there's a script to create it. No need to copy from other pages. Hemantha (talk) 14:22, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

You can't get over it, do you? Anyway, I can't recall saying you've copied, you unsurprisingly just didn't understand my point, but anyway, I prefer to remain uninformed on anything you're doing at the moment. Thank you and please control your need to keep messaging me with pointless arguments. I like to contribute to Wikipedia, not indulge in ego trips. Let's just end this discussion here. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:32, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

What about this request - do you mind if I collapse everything below your vote, starting from my comment, with say "Belief in notability expressed" or whatever text you propose?. Shouldn't be a problem if you aren't interested in ego trips, but I'd proceed only on your confirmation. Hemantha (talk) 14:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Nope, I prefer that it stay because I explain my vote in detail in response to your question, and it's essential to the reviewing admin. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Enjoy that ego trip then. Hemantha (talk) 14:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I think I've explained the rationale behind my choice not to approve of your request (which is quite weird anyway, I must say), and if you thought that the kind of childish, manipulative rhetoric in "Shouldn't be a problem if you aren't interested in ego trips" (which, again, made me laugh) was going to affect my answer, you've got another thing coming. Enjoy your deletions. Hope we're done here. Shahid • ^Talk2me 15:09, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

RIP Lata

I thought of you when I learned of her passing. India has lost a true cultural giant! I was listening to her only a few weeks back! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, indeed, it was not easy. A national treasure, a musical gem, a voice that is a force to be reckoned with, the symbolic value of which is impossible to put into words or explain to those unfamiliar with her name. You can imagine what many Indians feel today, but as many have said, she is immortal, as her music stays forever - it's thousands of songs, man. Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Kaif

Hey, do you think you could perform a source review as well? That is if you have some energy left after your amazingly exhaustive review of the prose so far. I figure given your years of work with Bollywood articles, this should not be a very time-consuming process to check them. Either way, thank you for your review so far. FrB.TG (talk) 04:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

FrB.TG: Yes, just give me time since I'm a little busy. :) Shahid • ^Talk2me 08:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC)