Sighola

Hi Sighola

I saw your recent changes to the article on Psychopathy regarding the term sociopathy. I appreciate the fact that you're trying to develop the article, but you need to verify the information with sources. I do think, now, that Hare's arguments are probably unsuitable for an etymology introduction to psychopathy, so I have retained the content of your last revision, but added a source for the first part of the statement (that it was introduced in 1909). The rest is currently unsourced though, so I added a "citation needed" note. Hare's views on the differences between usage of sociopathy and psychopathy, although I don't understand why you think that they're biased or problematic (especially given that they're properly sourced and explicitly attributed as his opinions), have been moved to another section of the article, at least until any consensus is reached on the most appropriate section for it. --Humorideas (talk) 09:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Pop book 'Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us' not particularly reliable for psychiatric theory, Hare is extremely biased toward the psychopathy concept. Sighola (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal

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Some serious clique wp:own issues with that page I see. Sighola (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Albert Laszlo Haines

I think your new article on Haines may well raise issues regarding WP:BLP policy, and have accordingly started a thread at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Albert Laszlo Haines. If you aren't familiar with the policy, I suggest that you read that first, before responding. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:26, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

So you went there after joining in the revert above. What issues? Sighola (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Albert Laszlo Haines

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whoa jumping the gun there, have you even read the sources "While Mr Haines's plight captured the imagination of the press for a short while, the principle of whether such hearings should be held in public will have wider ramifications for mental health services." - his case set a legal precedent in UK Law, as clearly stated in the article. Sighola (talk) 15:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I'd suggest that you discuss this on the article talk page - people may not see your responses posted here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Albert Laszlo Haines for deletion

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Attempts

Signhola, I think the article which appears to best suit what you mean is Attempted non-fatal offences against the person in English law. However, a word of warning. Because of the way that the Criminal Attempts Act 1981 works - in that it applies to any crime, it would be rare for an English lawyer to consider "Attempted non-fatal offences against the person in English law" as a separate body of information, separate from the law of attempts - hence my changes. The general principles of the law of attempts are applied more or less systematically across every crime. There is little that is distinctive about attempted non-fatal offences against the person in particular.

Did you have some particular content in mind? Perhaps you draft it in a sandbox, I can get a better idea of where it might fit into the encyclopedia. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 08:40, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, then I can say this: it is not possible to commit "attempted wounding" under section 200 without the necessary intention to commit the crime in question - a requirement of the law of attempts generally. In the case, therefore, where one attempted to wound, one would necessarily "attempt to wound with intent" under Section 18. I hope that's clear. As to how one might show intent, this is a question for the jury. I imagine his previous record and Occam's Razor would be factors. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:09, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

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