SomeRandomHumanbeing2333

Mogorče

Hi SomeRandomHumanbeing2333 and welcome to Wikipedia. You have tried to restore content about the Torbeši four times now. Unfortunately none of the sources support the content you seek to restore. The first latest source you have added is actually the Macedonian Encyclopedia and the book is from 2009. The second latest source is an opinion piece and cannot be used for statements of fact per WP:RSEDITORIAL. Since it does not mention the village, it is irrelevant to the subject matter. I advise you to self-revert and beware of WP:3RR. StephenMacky1 (talk) 23:37, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Understood SomeRandomHumanbeing2333 (talk) 23:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.Jingiby (talk) 04:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Millet system

Hi SomeRandomHumanbeing2333, please read the articles Millet system, Bulgarian millet and Muslim millet. Keep in mind that the last people who gained a right to have a separate millet, i.e. were recognized as a distinct nation in the Ottoman empire were the Vlachs in 1905. Macedonian Slavs never pretended and never were granted with such privilege. Check also: Rise of nationalism in the Ottoman Empire. Thanks. Jingiby (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Original Research and Synthesis

Hi. Just to explain why you are being reverted on the Mogorče article. What you are adding is original research, or more specifically original synthesis. This is not permitted on Wikipedia. Basically it means you cannot take facts from separate sources, and combine them to create a new argument/claim that is not said in any of the sources. If you want to add something regarding the identity of "Turks" in the 2021 census of Mogorče, then you need a source that does exactly that already. You cannot combine sources to create your argument. Thanks. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 08:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Okay i understand that which is why I have 2 questions

1: because one of my sources states that Mogorce also has been traditionally inhabited by Mijaks can that be added to the Article and

2nd: Can the Info about their identity as "Turks" Bein Torbes be there but with a citation needed?

If you could answer that would be great. SomeRandomHumanbeing2333 (talk) 11:21, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

1 - Yes, any properly sourced information about the history of Mogorce would be welcomed. Perhaps you could start a new section on it. But try to balance the information and place it in proper context. A single fact, on its own, could be taken to be attempting to give it undue prominence.

2 - No. Unsourced information shouldn't be added, particularly if you already know you have nothing to support what it says. The onus is on you to cite what you add. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 14:41, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Well because Mijaks and Torbes inhabit the same regions and there have been Mijaks that converted to Islam, I feel like it should be added next to Orthodox Macedonia (example: Orthodox Macedonians/Mijaks) additionally if I'm not mistaken Mogorce speaks the debar dialect which is closely related to the galičnik dialect but if it could be taken to be attempted to give undue prominence then I find Mijaks heritage should be added in the "see also" section, so what do you think? SomeRandomHumanbeing2333 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)