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Thank YOU! Stockbroker369 (talk) 04:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Stockbroker369 (talk) 02:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Domaine Ylang Ylang

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Cabrils (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@Cabrils:

The reason it's a stub is to give people the chance to contribute a lot more info. In Mauritius, it is not on the web a lot but in books, which have to be researched and are not available on the internet. (A good example is France Staub who is only on Wikipedia because people quote his books and he is as notable as it gets from a conservation point of view. (Birds of the Mascarenes and Saint Brandon)). So an outsider would have no way of knowing Mauritius notability 'a la USA' or under European culture. Talking notability, this is a Domaine and has historical roots which I will research over a period. So don't jump the gun whilst the building is going slowly up. I was going to say 'thank you' but I am doing this for a passion to write about Mauritius for the outside world in my own precious time with failing eyes so it is not in order. ¬¬¬ Stockbroker369 (talk) 06:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome to comment on the discussion at the appropriate page. Feel free to move the page to Draft space which will "give people the chance to contribute a lot more info". Wikipedia policies are not " 'a la USA' or under European culture" but have been developed by an open community. I am from neither the USA or Europe. Contrary to your assertion, you " jump[ed] the gun" by publishing a page that does not meet the criteria. If the page is still being developed then it belongs in the draft space. I too contribute "in my own precious time", as does practically every editor. Given you seem to have little experience you might find the following helpful:

Wikipedia's basic requirement for entry is that the subject is notable. Essentially subjects are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. To properly create such a draft page, please see the articles ‘Your First Article’, ‘Referencing for Beginners’ and ‘Easier Referencing for Beginners’.

You're welcome. Cabrils (talk) 07:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, You should not be taking this personally. I was talking of the culture of Europe and USA, not of your or indeed mine. Wikipedia has these cultures as this was where it came from. and that is not a criticism. Anyway, have a nice day and try to encourage growth and hope rather than destroying and creating despair, especially when an unknown culture is in front of you. Thank you and God Bless. Stockbroker369 (talk) 11:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Cabrils, may God Bless you.

Domaine Ylang Ylang

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Kestrel Valley - Domaine Ylang Ylang is a place located in Mauritius Island (Grand Port district) and belongs to the category of amusement, amusement park.

It is situated at an altitude of 112 meters, and its geographical coordinates are 20°20'28"S latitude and 57°44'4"E longitude.

Among other places and attractions worth visiting in the area are: Vallée de Ferney (amusement, 60 min walk), Domaine De Etoile (amusement, 84 min walk), Île de la Passe (island, 116 min walk).

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Domaine Ylang Ylang is a scenic viewpoint in Grand Port District, Mauritius. Domaine Ylang Ylang is situated nearby to Kestrel Valley and Mont Piton Rouge.

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Domaine Ylang Ylang · peer · Bambous Mountain · Le Barachois · Pointe du Diable · Historical Fortifications · Grand River South East · Mosque Road · Bambous ...

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https://www.travelers.mu/blog/about-mauritius/

Domaine Ylang Ylang – providing good educational tourism on plants and fragrances.

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http://wwhttps://explora.mu/about/activities-in-mauritius

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http://www.world-guides.com/africa/mauritius/mauritius_national_parks.html Stockbroker369 (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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L'Île Coco

Hello Stockbroker369. It looks as though some of your edits to L'Île Coco, in particular this one may have introduced copyright material to the article. As Diannaa, an acknowledged expert on copyright, told you twice above, this is serious. I have removed the potentially offending text, but you really need to either confirm that nothing you add to Wikipedia is copyright or cease adding anything at all. I fear if you don't, you may well be blocked from editing until you are willing to follow our policies. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 15:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Stockbroker369. This is public information and is on record on Wikipedia and Wikimedia. It is quoted as coming from a world bank report inter alia on record on Wikipedia. The factual bases are there to prove this and the plagiarism accusations are outrageous which leads me to think that you may have an undeclared conflict, especially if you are a Mauritian. Confirm you are not. First of all, i won't be confirming anything to you (or anyone here) about where i am or am not from; that is information that we do not require each other to give. Second, in reverting me you still haven't corrected the spelling mistake which makes it very unclear where your information and quote come from: I assume you mean "World Bank", since "Word Bank" doesn't have any meaning in this context. Third, you have again put in a chunk of quoted text without making it clear with a citation where it came from; you need to reference it, so that it is verifiable by other editors and readers. Read WP:PLAGIARISM ~ if you're not showing the source, that is plagiarism; maybe i'm wrong, maybe Section 2.5.3. of the Word Bank's Management Report to government stated is sufficient notice of the source, though it's clearly incomplete, but even so, point that out, don't make accusations about your fellow editors. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 19:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, not making accusations but trying to state the obvious in frustration. Apologies. This is what is there,  :- In 1998, Section 2.5.3. of the Word Bank's Management Report to government stated, 'Two Marine Parks are proposed for the St. Brandon Area: Turtle Lagoon Marine Park and Cocos Island Marine Park (map at end of report). In these areas, no extractive activities will be allowed. Marine Parks are considered an effective means of preserving marine biodiversity, safeguarding against overfishing and replenishing fisheries in adjacent areas. The two Marine Parks are considered to be areas of vital importance for recruitment and feeding of Dame Berri and Capitaine (Lethrinus), the most important commercial species, and to provide a good representation of the slightly different faunal and habitat compositions of the Northern and Southern parts of St. Brandon. Paul and Cocos provide different but complementary examples of the terrestrial habitats of the archipelago. The total area represents roughly 25% of the reef, which is generally considered to be an adequate percentage to safeguard a reef for the purpose of biodiversity conservation and replenishment of fish stocks.' Stockbroker369 (talk) 05:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

It clearly refers to the World Bank and puts into quote the information quoted. I am trying to do Good and will put a second ' on the quote Stockbroker369 (talk) 05:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you and apologies again. Stockbroker369 (talk) 05:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Apology accepted I don't want you to think that i am or have been picking on you; my sole purpose is to help our project: I've been around here for fifteen years or a bit more and between my two accounts i have about 70000 edits ~ i don't say that to brag (there are people with ten times that and way more!), but just to emphasise, i am here to do good. So i too apologise, because if you felt i was being accusatory, honestly i did not want to do that.

I haven't looked yet at how you quoted the section, or adjusted the quotation; i hope it's cited, but if i can improve it or help, be sure and let me know. You've probably seen that over the past couple of days i've edited a couple of the Islands' articles, and i probably will some more. If you see something i can do better, please ask. See you around ~ hope to keep working with you. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 17:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

70000 edits. Respect. Thank you. God Bless. I have a passion for the islands as you can see and sometimes I get carried away as I do not know the protocol here but I am learning, even at 68!!! Stockbroker369 (talk) 04:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Management Plan for St. Brandon

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Understand why. ok. Stockbroker369 (talk) 04:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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Saint Brandon Conservation Trust moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Saint Brandon Conservation Trust. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability, it is promotional and reads like an advertisement and you may have a possible Conflict of Interest. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

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Dear Sir, I am fairly new at this but disagree with your comments and unfounded premises and find your decision arbitrary, because you are not able to see, nor do you have access to knowledge of the depth of importance nationally and internationally. Any of your notions of promotion, if validated, can be rectified and it can be reinstated as a stub for. Please reinstate and I will continue to update. Mauritius may be a tiny island lost in the middle of the ocean, for you, but I can assure you that this is a notable and noble subject. Below are some of the reasons why the first Mauritian NGO, the first NGO of any kind to be set up to protect this atoll is notable and important. I am retired and 69 years old so 'possible conflicts of interest' are clearly risible and a bit of an insult to my commitment and the many hours of research I spent on this. I can categorically confirm that I am not receiving a cent for my research. Here are some more reasons why this article is notable :

''Saint Brandon is separated from Mauritius by 469 kms of Indian Ocean, measured from Ile du Nord to Port Louis. It is, in equal measure, hampered by a lack of effective, modern-day communications infrastructure or access to internet.

The Cargados Carajos archipelago is low-lying and prone to total submersion in severe weather. It has an aggregate land area mass variously estimated at between 1.3 km2 (0.50 sq mi) and 500 acres (2.0 km2). Economic activity in the region is limited to fishing on the very extensive shallow banks covering approximately 900 sq mi (2,300 km2) around the islands.

Meteorological data has been recorded on St Raphaël island since 1944 and is used for the prediction of weather patterns and, specifically, the tracking of Indian Ocean cyclone formation (Staub and Gueho, 1968).^{15 16}

·       St. Brandon has been proposed for a Marine Protected Area by the World Bank.

·       St. Brandon was classified in 10th place, globally, by UNESCO for future inclusion as a World Heritage Site

·       St. Brandon has been identified as an Important Bird Area in Africa by BirdLife International.

·       St. Brandon has been designated as a Marine Important Bird Area under the Nairobi Convention

·       St. Brandon has equally been designated as a Key Biodiversity Area by the CEPF.

In the 1960s, the privately set up and protected turtle reserve established at Ile du Nord by RFC permitted access only in the Summer under RFC’s then IAS protocols.

In 1975, the US Government proposed sending a scientific expedition to St. Brandon together with the Smithsonian Institution and National Geographic.

In 1984, the proposal was made to designate Perle and Fregate Islands as nature reserves (UNEP, 1984).

In 2010, a significant survey of seabirds and turtles of St. Brandon was undertaken.

"We estimated that 1 084 191 seabirds comprising seven breeding species and excluding non-breeders were present at the archipelago and we counted 279 turtle tracks and nesting pits of green turtles Chelonia mydas. Hawksbill turtles Eretmochelys imbricata were also present. Analyses of 30 different islets that make up the atoll showed that the seabird species mostly partitioned their use of islets based on islet size, with four species preferring larger islets and two species preferring smaller islets. Alien species introduced historically are still present and other threats, such as shipwrecks, remain. We propose conservation and other measures that should adequately protect the birds, turtles and coral reef by treating the atoll as a system."^{17 18}

In 2011, The Ministry of Environment & Sustainable Development issued the "Mauritius Environment Outlook Report" which stated that "There is an urgent need to allocate more resources for a closer monitoring of the environmental assets of the islands

In March 2016, the president’s report of the Mauritian Wildlife Foundation (‘’MWF’’) declared St. Brandon an official MWF project to promote the conservation of the atoll at a national and international level.

In April 2016, RFC privately funded and organised a fact-finding mission by world class experts in the field of conservation. Three international experts (Professor Henk Bauwman²³ (Ecotoxicology, Environmental Pollution, Bird Ecology); Professor Tony Martin (world’s foremost expert on marine mammals) and Dr. Nik Cole (herpetologist; MWF Islands Restoration Manager) inspected the islands to raise awareness about the need to protect the islands’ flora and fauna but also to investigate, for the longer term, the effects of plastic and heavy metal pollution in the Indian Ocean.²⁴

The Saint Brandon archipelago is important internationally for being a Key Biodiversity Area within a Key Biodiversity Hotspot (#9 on Fig. 5 below) boasting the reported longest continuous²⁸ algal ridge in the Indian Ocean.

Bird biodiversity: Cargados Carajos supports large numbers of seabirds. Estimating and tracking populations for single colonies is exceedingly difficult and the multitude of colonies and brevity of visits imposed by Cargados Carajo’s isolation compounds the problem. ‘’The most abundant species is Sterna fuscata (although the population has decreased from the 100,000 pairs estimated in 1975), but the numbers of four other tern species (Sterninae) are probably all of global or regional importance. Additional nesting seabird species (all apparently represented by less than 1% of the world population) are Fregata minor, F. ariel, Puffinus pacificus (one colony), Sula dactylatra (200 pairs on Ile du Nord in 1971, and still present 1996) and Phaethon lepturus (rare, 1996). The Fregata species have declined greatly from 1950s populations in the thousands, and Sula sula became extinct in the 1960s.’’²⁹ There have been many recommendations for the protection of the more important bird colonies (see UNEP/IUCN 1988) but, apart from RFC privately funding the protection of its own island areas (e.g. ongoing eradication of IAS), nothing concrete has been achieved on the ground to date although various laudable projections, plans and research have been produced by various national and international NGOs. All the funding, on a national basis, appears to have gone to Agalega³⁰

Non-bird biodiversity: Reptiles: The main nesting beaches for the sea-turtles Chelonia mydas (EN) and Eretmochelys imbricata (CR) are islands and hundreds nest in St. Brandon islands, primarily on Ile du Nord and Perle³¹. There are various

indices that some of the turtles nesting in St. Brandon may be genetically different from those in the rest of the Indian Ocean.³² If so, it would make them unique and be a conservation game-changer. Marine life: the coral reef and associated waters are extremely diverse, but the reef structure and coral fauna are largely unknown.’’³³ ‘’Coconut crabs may still exist on some isles. Typical vegetation is thicket of Tournefortia argentea and Scaevola taccada, with grasses and other herbs, although Casuarina equisetifolia, Terminalia catappa and coconut trees occur on a few islands. ‘’³⁴

Whilst Saint Brandon is palpably unique for its flora, fauna and key biodiversity, it is in equal measure susceptible to a number of demonstrably recurrent existential hazards on a short and long-term basis. These include at least two recent shipwrecks³⁵ slowly seeping metals into the lagoon, potential future shipwrecks and related oil spills on the Eastern side of the atoll, tsunamis, tidal surges, cyclone, strong winds as well as diseases and destruction to birds from Invasive Alien Species (IAS). '

Summary

Beginning in the 1960s, St. Brandon has been proposed as a Marine Protected Area (‘’MPA’’) by the World Bank; it has also been identified as an Important Bird Area in Africa by BirdLife International, has been designated a Marine Important Bird Area under the Nairobi Convention, has been proposed as a nature reserve by UNEP and confirmed as a Key Biodiversity Area (KBA) by the CEPF. Various UN agencies, specialised NGOs and the Mauritius Wildlife Foundation have echoed and supported these designations and aspirations multiple times on record. So far, this has been to no avail in terms of action and dollars-and-cents investment on the ground and the Saint Brandon Conservation Trust is the first entity to have the courage to officially start protecting the Cargados Carajos the face of geopolitical aims. To that extent I am biased as I do not want this pristine piece of the Indian Ocean turned into a military base. Time is of the essence and I would ask you kindly to reinstate the article as a stub.

Thank you on a Sunday.

I am going to mass and hope you will do the decent thing as per above notability of the first ST. Brandon NGO is more than proven for all the many reasons above, not least the health of our planet.

Thank you! Stockbroker369 (talk) 04:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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