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Guy's Grocery Games Episodes

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You need to use the template for Guy's Grocery Games episodes seen here. That's why I created it. Your edits could be reverted if you don't use the template. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 06:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Does it need to have the production code? That info is not easily found on some episodes and it seems kinda superfluous.

Also, the problem with a pre-established template is that it can't be edited and the series changes the further along it goes. It's not like 'Chopped' or like other Food Network cooking competitions. There's several episodes with only three contestants, there's more than one tournament where one contestant moves on and the rest compete to stay, plus several episodes with only two rounds and a changing of judges halfway into it. I should know since I've been watching the newest season lately on TV and I've been marathoning the entire series to get all the details of every episode. And no one has even paid attention to this show page until I've been cleaning it up recently. SunnieSkye (talk)

As far as the production code goes, I was going with what was already there when I moved everything over when I created that episode article. If you used the template I created, you could easily add N/A for the production code section if you can't find it. Now with everything else, you can still treat the tournaments like a regular episode. They won the right to advance. You didn't even add where each contestant was from and what they do. You say you are binge watching to get all the detailed information, but you left out information. That's why should have keep doing it the way I started it with the template. I don't want to do it, but if I have to go and redo it the way it should be, than I will. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 05:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Oh and Chopped has tournaments too. They still used the template. Not using the template because it is a tournament episode is not a valid reason to not use it. In fact, the template for Guy's Grocery Games episodes was based on the template for Chopped episodes. As far as changing judges in the middle of a show goes, if it has happened, there is an option to put in a fourth judge. All of this is in the documentation of the template. Basically, you have nothing stopping you from using the template. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 14:23, 27 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

I understand using a pre-made template (I've used them a lot since I'm not very wikipedia saavy) but I'm telling you that as this show goes on, it keeps changing up (and leaving things blank won't really do the trick when I need to edit what word categories say because I recall trying to edit a Chopped episode template where no one was eliminated and I couldn't). Some examples to better explain:

  • In season 10: "Guy's Superstar Grocery Games", eight chefs start out all at once. The first round has a best dish (no elimination), and the best dish winner plus a handful of other chefs move on to the next episode. Then the second round has the bottom two/three/four compete and only one gets eliminated while the rest join their fellow chefs in the next episode (it's kind of like the 'Baking Championship' or 'Masterchef' in terms of format. In fact the 'Baking Championship' pages are the basis of this episode table, so if it looks familiar it's because I edited the 'Baking Championship' pages.) Guy Fieri uses this format in at least two other tournaments and I bet he'll use it again in some future tournament this year because he sure loves tournaments.
  • In several episodes passing season 11, he has only two rounds - Season 11 "Guys' Unforgettable Chefs", " Season 12 "Funny Food", Season 16 "Full Meal Madness" (in this episode there's only three contestants), and season 17 "Pizza Play-Offs" to name a few. The three tournaments I mentioned above (total of 15 episodes) also have only two rounds. What I'm wondering is if rounds and contestants are able to be edited out in your template?
  • For judge switching, he tends to do them in regular tournaments (the kind similar to 'Chopped'), having the "winner" battle against the defending champion (and I believe in the 'GGG Impossible Tournament', he has Robert Irvine as a judge for the first 2 rounds, then cook against them in the third round so he can't judge). Other episodes that would prove hard to convey, except possibly in notes, is the season 13 "All Burgers 2" episode where an injury resulted in only two official rounds, and then the third round was played by judges so three new judges had to be brought in for the third round twist. And the season 17 episode "April Fools' Games" is frustrating because he starts out with three regular judges playing then in round 2 he has the chef/judges switch with the actual judges, and then has them switch again.

He's got so many themed episodes and double eliminations (resulting in two rounds) going on lately but I only pulled out a few fairly problematic ones. Also to show you that I have detail on pretty much all the episodes thus far and you say you don't really want to edit the episode pages, so... Funny enough, I'm not a huge fan of this show either but the first few seasons were okay and I thought it'd be nice to take down the information a while back when I got into the series, you know, to add to the wiki page. And then it started changing but I stubbornly stuck with it and decided I'd give the page an overhaul when I got most of the information down over the course of several months. If you really want to go back and change everything to the template, I won't argue but I probably won't add any details. It'll give me a good excuse to stop watching the show already as it's become nothing but the same ole' returning chefs, long-winded tournaments, and gimmicky themes.

Looking at the list of Chopped episodes and nothing is as you say when it comes to tournaments. Chopped uses a lot of the same celebrity chefs in their tournaments like Guy's Grocery Games does. But that's not relevant. The template would need to be edited to do what it needs to do fully. That would take some doing. I am not sure if it worth doing. I would need to do find someone to help do it if it is worth doing. Some things would need to be noted such as if they brought in more judges for one game and so one. I wonder if Primefac knows if it is worth doing. I wasn't actually going to change anything. I was hoping you'd change everything to the template. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 13:48, 28 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Primefac: I am willing to hear what he has to say. But with how Guy's Grocery Games is, how would the episode sublist work to format everything as not all episodes are the same with how the eliminations goes and whatnot. Again, I'm willing to hear what Alex has to say. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 18:13, 28 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
Copy/paste? That's what I did with Top Chef Canada (season 6) and when I got sucked into List of Cutthroat Kitchen episodes. Primefac (talk) 18:58, 28 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Primefac: With the examples SunniSkye gave, it's needs to be further formatted to accommodate two eliminations in a round as the previous round didn't have an elimination for example. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 16:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

I just looked at Cutthroat Kitchen and wish there was a way to add "contestants" to the template. The whole crux of the problem lies on pre-made templates and I'm bad at those things so I made one a while ago, sort of from scratch, and then copied and pasted (and tweaked) it to a few other Food Network shows I've been editing (a few "Baking Championships", "Halloween Wars" & "Great Food Truck Race"). I always thought it would be good to have a table that could be easily changed and edited just in case. How about I edit a later season (like season 15) that has a ton of the changes I mentioned and you guys see if it can be adapted to the template? (Edit - Here it is: GGG Season 15 episodes). SunnieSkye (talk)

You have to edit the template that Cutthroat Kitchen episodes uses and put in where you can add contestants. I edited the Guy's Grocery Games template episodes and removed where it automatically shows what round they were eliminated in. You have to manually put in the round they were eliminated in. This way you can put two in eliminations in one round if you have to. I am trying to figure out the Last Judge Standing so I can edit the template to put optional items in it if need be. You also put the same information for episode 4 and 5 of the first season. Oh and you put the must of the information in the summary or notes regarding games and contestants. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 02:29, 31 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I've fixed the season one issue (good eye!). Is your new, editable template still in that original link all the way up top in your first message? Because I tried to copy and paste it and it came out weird. I don't know if it's missing a bracket or something but the chart didn't show, mostly at the top (I could screencap it if there's no problem on your end).

You have to put {{Guy's Grocery Games/begin than the rest of the template when you do the first episode of a season. Than you do the rest of the episodes normally. Still trying to figure out what can be done for the tournaments that are different with eliminations. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 16:29, 6 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

At the risk of sounding annoying, why can't I simply use the template I made? I tried to plug in your template and on a hunch, I deleted one of the contestant lines and the round 3 line (inspired by the current episode of GGG that has three teams which means three contestants competing in two rounds). And the line just appears with curly brackets. (like this: {{{Cont4}}}) (fun fact, I learned how to do that grey b/g thing just now for emphasis). On an aesthetic note, the episode table is really big with lots of space on the right (maybe it looks good on mobile but it does not look good on desktop which I use). To compare, the Chopped template has the judges on the right hand side in its own little box. Using my easily editable table would fix the problem you say you have about what to do about the tournament episodes. I appreciate your work on the template but as I said before, it just doesn't work for this show. Please just let me use my table on this. Otherwise I don't think I'll be able to edit this show and I'll leave it to you or anyone else who wants it.
Also I didn't use the four tildes because this is my page and I figured it went without saying who I was and I didn't think I'd need to sign who I was on my own little wiki page (don't know why this whole discussion isn't on another page, like a GGG talk page) but there you go → SunnieSkye (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

I made an episodes template for Guy's Grocery Games for a reason. It's not about what you want. It's about doing what is best for the article. There is no issues with the template. I don't know what you are doing. If you look at my sandbox, you'll see I have the first season of Guy's Grocery Games in the template with no issues. I edited the template to have the judges on the right side of it. I removed the production code. It is common courtesy to sign comments on your own talk page. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 08:12, 8 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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