SunnyvalePublicSafety

Invitation to Discussion on Crime

You are invited to discuss the section on Sunnyvale, California crime in the Talk section. TeamX 07:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Do not remove important content from this article. This is the original written article for "Crime" section in the Sunnyvale, California indexing. You must include the reason of why this activity is taking place in the city and what is causing it. Important facts where re-submitted, Do not remove them any further as this article is factual from Citation sources.

- Note the statement above was unsigned, but appears to be from User:SunnyvalePublicSafety

I don't understand your last sentence. "... this article is factual from Citation sources". What do you mean? Also, please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia goals of creating an open community of editors improving articles. Also, please sign your name with four tildes. It is not clear you are posting, otherwise. Thanks. TeamX 18:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Original Editor?

You have stated that you are the original editor on your User Page. However Southsanjose is listed as the orginal editor. For this reason, I have noted you as a sockpuppet, which is in violation of the rules. If you have a reason for a different user name, and it is legitimate, please state it. Thanks.

TeamX 00:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Inivitation to Discussion on Crime

I respectfully ask you to participate on a discussion on the Sunnyvale, California discussion page. It would be a much better approach.

Please do not take any of the following personally. I am only doing what is in the Wikipedia guidelines - not suggesting you have incorrect intentions.

There are several issues with the article that I invite everyone to discuss. 1. The grammar is incorrect (plural subject/singular verb mismatch in the 4th sentence as an example.

2. What do you mean by "gangs have spread"? Instead of big groups hanging out together in few spots, smaller groups hang out in more spots? Or do you you mean the members live in more parts of the city? What source are you using?

3. What do you mean the gang "is growing"? By how much? One member a year? Is that gross or net? What is the source?

4. What do you mean that the gang is growing due to recent immigration laws? What laws? What are the law numbers? What is the connection with the immigration laws and member growth? If the the laws (supposedly) didn't change, would the growth be zero? What is the source?

5. What do you mean growth of Sureño families? Do you mean they are having more babies? Or do you mean more families are moving in to the city? What is the source?

6. Stating that 'Sunnyvale is located in Northern California' is redundant with the the Geography section. Don't you think that this redundant sentence should be removed?

7. Why do you state that most "Latinos born in N. CA .. become Norteños."? Don't you think this statement is wrong on many levels? For example, Wikipedia describes Latino as any one born in Latin America and decendants. Therefore the premise is incorrect. Don't you agree that the terminology should remain consistent? On another level,(ignoring the correct reference) are you stating that all Hispanic or Hispanic-surname people in N.CA. become gang members? Why is this gang background info relevant to an article specifically on Sunnyvale? is this consistent with other mentions of gangs in California cities? What is your source for the statement?

8. What is your source that one gang is recruiting because of growth of another gang? How much more?

9. What is the relevance to Sunnyvale about gang recruitment of people not born in the South? Wouldn't you consider this to be like statements about South Indian restaurants in the city seeing an influx of Northern Indians (even though they weren't born in Southern India)?

10. More grammar problems, "Latinos that engage in being a Sureño being born". Agree?

11. Why do you mention Lations in that above statement? Regardless of the terminology, are you implying that a non-Latino who does the same has different implications?

12. What is the relevance of levas to the Sunnyvale article? Are you implying that the word is different for other parts of California.

13. What is the contribution of crime from these gangs? Would you agree that the 'Crime' section should talk about the major sources of crime? What other non-gang crime exists?

I appreciate you interest to express content on the gangs - this is information that could (and should) go into a separate article. I look forward to an intelligent discussion above. Thanks.

TeamX 00:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)