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January 2009

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I was unaware that linking a film's page to the Imdb page of the producer constituted an inappropriate link. Also, adding a link to the official site of the production company isn't advertising. Yes, I am affiliated with that company, but even if I wasn't, as a fan of "The Dreamers," I would want to know this info.

Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 15:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

External links at film articles need to be directly related to the topic at hand. For example, a link to the producer's IMDb page would be acceptable at the producer's Wikipedia article because there is direct relevance. The same logic applies to the companies as well... if they have their own Wikipedia articles, then their official sites can be linked there. I don't have a problem with Jeremy Bolt being mentioned in the infobox, but solely mentioning him in the lead section where there are also other producers involved struck me as a little promotional. It may be worth reading Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. My personal rule of thumb is to remain uninvolved with anything on Wikipedia that you may have a personal relation to so you can make contributions that are as unbiased as possible. —Erik (talk • contrib) 15:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

To elaborate on your line: I don't have a problem with Jeremy Bolt being mentioned in the infobox, but solely mentioning him in the lead section where there are also other producers involved struck me as a little promotional.

Jeremy Thomas was the lead producer on "The Dreamers." He has been Bernardo Bertolucci's producer for twenty years, and solely developed and financed the project. Of the producers listed, Peter Watson (executive producer) and Hercules Bellville (associated producer) work for Jeremy Thomas at his company Recorded Pictures. Though it sounds impressive, the term "executive producer" usually refers to putting the financing deals together, and this is true in this case. Co-producer can be awarded for varying involvement -- in this case, Hercules Bellville helped develop the script. "Co-producer" refers to the line producer on the crew (physical day-to-day producer on set). If you worked in the film industry, these credits would be obvious. Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 18:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I didn't, but I fixed it. There was a missing </ref> tag at the end of the "Reception" section. As for producers, I understand the prominence of producers compared to executive producers and associated producers. It was just that there was an attempt to mention Bolt's name in an important way, and combined with the addition of company links, it did not seem to be the most objective series of edits. —Erik (talk • contrib) 13:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Just for the record, it's Jeremy Thomas, not Jeremy Bolt as you keep saying (a completely different kettle of fish). Whoever set up The Dreamers page shouldn't have credited John Bernard in the infobox. Jeremy Thomas solely has "Producer" credit. If he had shared the job with someone, such as John Bernard, he too would be credited as "Producer." Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 17:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Blargh, my tongue really got tangled there! :P Sorry, I meant Jeremy Thomas all along. As for The Dreamers, I've reviewed the credits and agree with you that John Bernard should not be under that field. I've removed it. —Erik (talk • contrib) 17:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

That's great -- thanks! Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 17:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

See Talk:Franklyn for my explanation. The additions were word-for-word from Variety and Rotten Tomatoes, which were copyright violations. In addition, IMDb's trivia page is not a reliable source. Let's discuss it there. —Erik (talk • contrib) 15:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Balibo film restored paragraph

Hi,
You recovered that paragraph but left the vestiges of footnotes in place as [11], [13], [14].

(So that was an incomplete job, basically.)

There have been a bunch of edits to that article. If you can determine what 11/13/14 refer to, possibly but not necessarily the current 11, 13 and 14, then I can do the mechanics of the footnoting.

Cheers, Varlaam (talk) 17:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you for helping Wikipedia!  fetchcomms☛ 22:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey, it's created but if you have more sources/material to add, keep adding! Great job on this article.  fetchcomms☛ 22:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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Why on earth

did you go through and add spacing to ALL of these places? The proper formatting for a reference following a sentence is to have no spaces. I spent about 2 hours last night going through and fixing the spacing after sentences, and you undid all of it. This is not the proper way that this is supposed to be formatted and I noted that both on the talk page and in the edit summaries and it was reinforced on the article talk page here and noted to be covered in WP:REFPUNCT. I have undone the arbitrary spacing you added in, I'm sorry if this undoes any other edits. Wildhartlivie (talk) 12:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh gosh, sorry -- I thought when you wrote this:

And don't forget to space directly after each reference, don't run the next sentence into the ref. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

It was meant to be spaced that way... I know now. I'll redo my actual edits. As you know, I've written 95% of the page since Haim's death -- any advice welcome. --Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 12:48, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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The Two The Two Coreys

Hmm. Actually, it's probably okay to have two pages - one that covers the television program and one that covers the two as a team. However, it looks to me like some of that content is technically mixed up. I'd retain the series page and move the content that pertains to the show from the persons page. I'd also lose the duplicate external links - there shouldn't be an offical website page on the persons page, only on the series and clean out what doesn't belong. It's okay to have the persons page, the two are a phenomenon, not as big as, but sort of like Laurel & Hardy, if you follow. If either page were to be excluded, it would be the persons page. There should links in a "See also" section for the individuals' pages and the lead section is actually fairly decent for the intro to the pair of them, but then it just stops. It leaves the reader hanging and should really be fully expanded. I don't see a link on Haim's page to anything regarding the pair of them and the link on Feldman's is sort of buried. I see no good reason to retain Big Wolf on Campus as it wasn't a joint appearance, nor was it even remotely close in time. Or at least that's what I think off the top of my head. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, let me look at it again. I haven't added much to either and didn't include Big Wolf on Campus, but it is accepted to have played a role in the conception of The Two Coreys show because they were each on it as themselves in a two-ep arc.

Do you not think combining the two pages is a good idea? With separate and clear sections for show and team. The show clearly fed off their rep as the team, and so could naturally flow.

--Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Haim's filmography

The only thing I saw that was done to the filmography page was the replacement of the code mark-up with a template for the filmography table head. That was done on consensus after a very long drawn-out discussion at WT:ACTOR. I didn't see any problems with what was done. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

More on Corey

Thanks for the thanks. :) You're quite right, edits for the sake of editing is part and parcel of this particular internet world. You're right, nicknames don't go under aliases, that is for alternate names that he may have worked under (like if he were Corey Ian Haim in some credits). I'm not sure that including little nicknames would be very encyclopedic. I'd support them not being added. Wildhartlivie (talk) 13:05, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Understood. And I really appreciate your fair efforts in protecting the page, especially as there is a 112 page fake biography that has been circulating for some time through Haim's Imdb message board, containing a bunch of very extreme drug anecdotes lifted directly from anti-drug sites! Thankfully a Toronto woman who had known Haim a little got suspicious and typed some phrases into Google, and was led to the sources. It was totally fabricated. Why anyone would do that, I don't know, but there are some odd people on the net (present company excepted). --Tarrant on Wiki (talk) 14:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it's interesting, but it's posted on a blog. Those are considered self-published sources and they just aren't acceptable. For all we know, the writer made it up. See also Wikipedia:BLP#Reliable sources. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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High Rise

In regards to your edits on High Rise, there is no WP:OR and all articles must be written in neutral WP:POV. I'll go over each edit.

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• "by artist Jay Shaw". No, we don't credit the artist of a film poster
• Adding editing = Ben Wheatley, Amy Jump not sourced
• Adding Recorded Picture Company, Film4 (financier), British Film Institute (financier), Studio Canal (UK), The Jokers (France) to studio and distributors. No, financiers are not added. Just the studio and distributor, otherwise there would be a financier parameter.
• Adding Leila Mimmack as Laura, Louis Suc as Toby, Bill Patterson as Mercer unsourced.
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• Adding http://www.recordedpicture.com and http://mrandmrswheatley.blogspot.co.uk/, improper use of films external links.

I would also be careful when saying that you are "an executive working on this film" as it is a Conflict of interest.LADY LOTUS • TALK 18:05, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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No offense, but continuously saying you're an exec for the film and to trust you you do this for a living means nothing here. It only mean something if it's back by reliable sourcing which I appreciate you finally doing. LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:10, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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