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Happy editing! Peter coxhead (talk) 09:49, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

New/revised mygalomorph families

Good to see the family table at Mygalomorphae updated – there's lots more to do! Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spiders#New or revived Mygalomorphae families if you like editing spider articles. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:49, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Peter. I didn't expect any feedback on my edits to the table, but hey, yours is a welcome surprise! As far as spider-related pages go, you can bet that I'll do what I can for areas that need attention, so thanks for providing a link to that wikiProject.

You know, I was about to ask about double square brackets. I planned to go back and put them around those new mygalomorph families, but you beat me to it. I now see that using them is standard practice for pages that don't exist yet, and need to be created. I'm learning bit by bit as I go along, and I'll take all the tips I can get. Teal Reverie (talk) 06:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Automated taxobox

Hey, I happened to see your post in WP:TEAHOUSE. I went ahead and just made the Automated taxobox template for Yuelushannus. You did everything right using that template in your draft, the next step would be to click the link that says "fix" and that'll send you to a page where you can create the required template for any new taxa. Wikipedia:Automated taxobox system/taxonomy templates is a good overview, but the main steps are to enter the Latin name (familia, not family, etc) for the rank in |rank= and the parent name in |parent=. If it's extinct, then set |extinct=yes, and if the Wikipedia article for the taxon is anything other than just its name (e.g., there's a parenthetical, or it uses a common name), then you need to have |link=link-target|link-text. So for instance, it's |link=Ray spider|Theridiosomatidae since the Wikipedia article is titled Ray spider.

P.S. I'm noticing the reference for Draft:Yuelushannus is conflating the WSC entry and the European Journal of Taxonomy article. I think I would cite them as two separate references, something like:

• World Spider Catalog (2020). "Gen. Yuelushannus Irfan, Zhou, Bashir, Mukhtar & Peng, 2020". World Spider Catalog. 21.0. Bern: Natural History Museum Bern. doi:10.24436/2. Retrieved 11 July 2020.

• Irfan, Muhammad; Zhou, Gu-chun; Bashir, Shahida; Mukhtar, Muhammad Khalid; Peng, Xian-jin (2020). "Yuelushannus gen. nov. (Araneae, Linyphiidae) from China". European Journal of Taxonomy. 642. doi:10.5852/ejt.2020.642.

But I would defer to those more active in WP:SPIDERS, e.g, Peter coxhead for specifics.

Umimmak (talk) 23:51, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

I split the references, as Umimmak suggested. Between them they support the whole paragraph, so I moved them to the end. The article was then perfectly good to move to article space – see Yuelushannus. Once in article space, you need to add a taxonbar and some categories – they shouldn't be present on drafts.

Good to see this new article – we need more spider editors. Don't hesitate to ask at my talk page if you need any help. Peter coxhead (talk) 05:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Your thread has been archived

Hi Teal Reverie! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Subject of image for taxobox, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to . The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} here on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Use of Specieslist template

Hi, good to see the work you have been doing on spider articles!

{{Species list}} doesn't work for lists of species in taxoboxes, as opposed to lists of synonyms. For synonyms, it's used without formatting. Thus for the synonym list currently at Aphonopelma steindachneri:

{{Species list
|Aphonopelma phanum|Chamberlin, 1940
|Aphonopelma reversum|Chamberlin, 1940
}}

generates

• Aphonopelma phanum Chamberlin, 1940
• Aphonopelma reversum Chamberlin, 1940

Italics for the binomial and small text for the authority are added automatically, so should not be present in the wikitext.

You can create a linked list of species, using {{Linked species list}}. Thus:

{{Linked species list
|Herbiphantes acutalis|Irfan & Peng, 2019
|Herbiphantes cericeus|(Saito, 1934)
}}

generates

• Herbiphantes acutalis Irfan & Peng, 2019
• Herbiphantes cericeus (Saito, 1934)

The italics, wikilink and small text are added automatically, so should not be present in the wikitext. However, this doesn't work if you want to add countries, because they also get put into small text, which is wrong. So once you depart from a very basic linked list of species, you should use the standard bullet list method.

Personally, I never put a list of species in the taxobox of a genus article, because my experience is that it gets overlooked and editors end up adding different lists to the body of the article. I prefer [[#Species|See text]]. in the taxobox and a list of species at the subheading "Species" in the text. But it's a matter of preference. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:35, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Huh, I wasn't even aware there was a linked species list option. That's a handy thing to have learned.

As I was editing the pages, I did indeed notice that some had species lists in the taxobox, while in others the species lists had their own section in the text, as you mentioned. I didn't think anything of the difference at the time. It seems to me as well that being in the text is the ideal location for species lists, as opposed to being off to the side. I'll go through the pages and convert the ones that need converting. Teal Reverie (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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