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Category:New religious movements

Please see the page New religious movement. The definition of a "new religious movement" is "a religious or spiritual group that has modern origins and which occupies a peripheral place within its society's dominant religious culture". Adding Gospel of Mark, Gospel of Matthew, King James Version and New Testament to this category is not helpful. I'm also concerned about the Category:Founders of religions additions you are making. Jesus or Paul: yes, and possibly founders of distinct movements (Luther, Calvin), but not evangelists and apostles. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Agreed with the above; I've reverted your edits to those pages. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Martin of Sheffield, you should know new religious movement pages as Wikipedia defines such topic of religion by different historical accounts not by theological views as a Wikipedia Admin himself said this. Besides it seems Christianity pages are being favored and such tags of founder and new movements are being shoved to other religions. It is important for Wikipedia to be neutral and not favor Christianity as moderators have to be neutral even if the are Christians. Founders of religions Paul definitely is a founder as he wrote the new testaments and was responsible for the creation of Christianity mostly. While on this topic, Writ_Keeper if you can take those edits then it will be wise and fair to also remove the statement of "Founder of Islam" which is on the page of Muhammad in the start. Then only Wiki will have a fair and neutral argument and information. Thanks.

No, it would not. Muhammad is listed as a founder of Islam for the same reason Jesus is listed as a founder of Christianity--Muslims and Christians might argue that their respective designations are incorrect, but they're both still labeled that way. Christian pages are not labeled as new religious movements for the same reason that Muslim pages aren't--neither are new, and Islam is actually newer by some six hundred years. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok that is fair that Jesus is also mentioned there but it is still a inaccurate label for both. Funny how you mentioned Islam as newer than Christianity when Muslims believe Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad Peace be upon them all as their Prophets and Messengers along with other Prophets that came but I guess Wikipedia moderators and Admins have decided to support the narrative that they follow themselves and project the kind of information they want to misinform the masses. No wonder no universities and colleges allow students to source Wikipedia in their reports and assignments. As for the statement of Prophet Muhammad page where just as his description starts, why have you not edited the founder part which I brought to your notice earlier? And is this current talk page public or is this like our chat?

It will never be appropriate to state in wiki-voice that anything was founded by Jehovah/God/Allah, since that would be assuming that such a being existed. Now, I am a Christian and believe God exists, but that doesn't mean that I can change wikipedia to follow my beliefs. {{u|zchrykng}} {T|C} 20:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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