User talk:TheSandDoctor/Archives/2018/October


17:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).

 

  Administrator changes

  JustlettersandnumbersL235
  BgwhiteHorsePunchKidJ GrebKillerChihuahuaRami RWinhunter

  Interface administrator changes

  Cyberpower678Deryck ChanOshwahPharosRagesossRitchie333

  Oversight changes

  Guerillero NativeForeigner SnowolfXeno

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
  • Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.

  Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
  • The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
  • Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
  • Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive IP

Hi TSD, would you mind having a look at the contribs of 65.60.240.178 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for me? Thanks! ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  11:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention CJinoz. I have issued them a warning in an attempt to give them one more chance, though their activities could have warranted an immediate block. If they persist, please let me know and I will deal with it. --TheSandDoctor Talk 18:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Appreciate it! ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  21:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
@CJinoz: Blocked them for 24 hours per their summary and continued edit warring. --TheSandDoctor Talk 23:32, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. They also posted a number of very distasteful messages on my talk page. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  05:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Surely one or all deserve a warning (at the very least) for incivility and re WP:NOT? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  06:02, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
It looks like the new 5. IP might be a separate person. The IPv6 IP is very likely related to the 65. ip IMO. there are more edits from the IPv6 IP in it's range as well. SQLQuery me! 01:16, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello TheSandDoctor/Archives/2018, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
New scripts

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23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Tak #3

Hello. Could improve bot to adding space instead of underscore character in parameters? Eurohunter (talk) 13:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Eurohunter, the bot makes use of the substitution trick and underscores are used within Infobox album itself for the values. Based on that, it could not be done if using the trick. Take this edit for instance in which I did just change it in the code, as you can see, the code change had no effect since it is the proper/official way per the template itself. It has already done around 100 thousand pages this way. Also, that would not be an "improvement" visually or in the source editing, rather a zero sum change based on personal preference. Everyone is probably going to have a different opinion on this.
With that said, I do appreciate you coming forward with suggestions and don't want to discourage you doing so in the future as well  . --TheSandDoctor Talk 15:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Replied SkyGazer 512. --TheSandDoctor Talk 16:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

hi

nice to meetyou --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adtoglobal (talkcontribs) 09:34, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@Adtoglobal: You too, how may I help you? --TheSandDoctor Talk 15:16, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Task 3 Infobox album etc

Have you got a list of articles that have potential string module errors? i.e Where the bot has detected a problem and self reverted. If you have can I have a copy please, so that I can start ploughing through it to fix the problem articles. - X201 (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

It can now be found under "errors", "errors2", and "errors_mac". I cannot guarantee that there are no duplicates in those datasets at this time. I will compile them etc later if you like. As for the running of the bot, I seem to remember the bot being significantly faster. I see if it is possible to speed it up any today (unfortunately my workstation isn't cooperating with pybind11 right now, so can't run it on the 8700k) I will probably need the weekend. --TheSandDoctor Talk 13:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm surprised that there are only six errors though. Will that list update automatically or do you have to manually upload it? - X201 (talk) 14:28, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
@X201: The bot updates its list internally (in install location under the folder it creates called "errors") on its own, I just put them on GitHub at that moment in time so yes, I will have to manually update/commit & push it. The bot has no coding for committing to GitHub. The bot skips anything in Module:String errors, so the errors there are ones that weren't in it already, but the bot inadvertently added to. That keeps the number extremely low, the self-revert was an addon to keep the number of issues as low as possible and it appears to have worked as I haven't seen any issues reported since its implementation (or before if memory serves). The way the bot works is:
  1. Make the edit
  2. Review the edit just saved, does the page now contain Module:String errors where it didn't before? If not, move on, if so, revert self so long as the bot was the last editor but not the one before that (second last).
Module:String errors would be a good one to run through first as the bots should never conflict. Hope that helps. --TheSandDoctor Talk 15:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
I've generated a list from the String Module Errors cat, that's given me 3000 to be going on with. Will clear the Infobox album errors first, then see what's left. - X201 (talk) 15:45, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: I've added some of the capitalized parameters for {{Singles}} into the tracking system. Would it be possible to change the bot task to substitute that template if it's in the category? Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jc86035: Sorry for the delay, there is already a separate task for doing that not dependant on the category in question.
@Yodin: It appears that the very next edit was also the bot reverting itself, which means that it caught it and is therefore working as intended. That task checks its own work, I am not sure what happened there as it appears it caught itself previously on that page. --TheSandDoctor Talk 20:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

20:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixer Bot and chronology templates

Hello! I have a bunch of album articles on my watchlist, and I've been casually following the adventures of DeprecatedFixerBot as it updated the chronology and extra chronology parameters. Things seemed to be going swimmingly, but it got confused with this one for some reason. I've fixed the article, but maybe you could take a look at this and see what you think. Thanks. Mudwater (Talk) 06:18, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Mudwater: That is indeed curious. My initial assessment is that it appears that that occurred since someone else had included the date in a format that it was not expecting, so it just copied & pasted it. Probably a glitch which isn't widespread, but I will look into it further tomorrow night, okay? I have stopped the bot task in the meantime. --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:27, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Good, thanks! Mudwater (Talk) 06:35, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
P.S. Most albums don't have a slash in their title, but that one does. Maybe that has something to do with it. Mudwater (Talk) 06:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
@Mudwater: Could be it, but again, that is without me going through the code as I don't have time to at the moment. I shall get back to you with more when I find out myself. It will be a day or two as the next couple are fairly busy off-wiki for me. --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:42, 30 October 2018 (UTC)