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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [1]
  • Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [2]
  • If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [3][4]
  • Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [5]
  • Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Mandailing (w:btm:) [6]

Problems

  • Editors can once again click on links within the visual editor's citation-preview, thanks to a bug fix by the Editing Team. [7]

Future changes

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

 

  Administrator changes

 
 

  Technical news

  Miscellaneous

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Tech News: 2024-28

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • A problem with the color of the talkpage tabs always showing as blue, even for non-existent pages which should have been red, affecting the Vector 2022 skin, has been fixed.

Future changes

  • The Trust and Safety Product team wants to introduce temporary accounts with as little disruption to tools and workflows as possible. Volunteer developers, including gadget and user-script maintainers, are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. The team has created documentation explaining how to do the update. Learn more.

Tech News survey

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Tech News: 2024-29

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News survey

Recent changes

  •   Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
  • Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
  • Editors who have access to The Wikipedia Library can once again use non-open access content in SpringerLinks, after the Foundation contacted them to restore access. You can read more about this and 21 other community-submitted tasks that were completed last week.

Changes later this week

Future changes

  •   Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page. [8]
  • Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.

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DYK for I Am Human (film)

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On 22 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article I Am Human (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the documentary film I Am Human has been the conversation starter for neuroscience panel discussions at universities such as Harvard? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I Am Human (film). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, I Am Human (film)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Chahal concerns

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Dear User:Crystallizedcarbon and User:TheSandDoctor, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to bring to your attention several disruptive edits made to the Wikipedia page of Gurbaksh Chahal. These edits have altered the content significantly, adding undue negative emphasis and removing positive information that balanced the article. I kindly request your intervention to revert the page to the version as of July 31, 2022, which represented a balanced view reached through consensus.

  • cur prev 19:21, 31 July 2022‎ Crystallizedcarbon (talk | contribs)‎ 57,904 bytes −1,185‎ Restored an old revision of this page, as edited by Vanisaac (talk | contribs) at 21:28, 27 July 2022. The status quo version was a hard to reach consensus that required very long discussions. Any change to this highly controversial point must also be reached by consensus first on the talk page. Tag: Manual revert.

Summary of Negative Edits Added:

Infobox:

  • 2022 Version: Did not include "Criminal charges: Domestic violence battery."

Lead Section:

  • Legal issues involving violence against women were introduced prominently in the opening lines, giving undue weight to these aspects.

Domestic Violence Section:

  • Detailed and graphic descriptions of the alleged incidents of domestic violence were added after already being reversed by User:TheSandDoctor and others.

BNN Breaking Section:

  • A dedicated section to BNN Breaking was added, giving undue prominence to this event while creating its own Wikipedia page.

Detailed Chronological Changes:

November 20, 2022 - Edits by User: Chisme

Removed Positive Content:
  • Gravity4: Simplified details about the company's achievements and innovations.
    • Removed Content: "Gravity4's main area of business was gathering useful customer data regarding their user experience to allow marketers to improve their ad targets. This company also started working in the AI sector and launched a marketing cloud for blockchain."
Added Negative Content - Edits by User: Chisme
  • Domestic Violence Section:
    • Added specific details about the number of times Chahal allegedly hit his girlfriend and the inadmissible video footage.
      • Added Content: "Video footage of the assault, taken by a camera in Chahal's bedroom ceiling, showed Chahal smothering the woman with a pillow and hitting and kicking her 117 times over a half-hour period."

March 2, 2024 - Edits by Users: Hemiauchenia, Belbury, Amigao, Gråbergs Gråa Sång

Added Negative Content:
  • BNN Breaking Section:
    • Dedicated a section to BNN Breaking, separate already from its negative Wikipedia page created.
      • Added Content: "In 2022, Chahal founded the now-defunct news website and aggregator BNN Breaking in Hong Kong. The website was subject to several controversies regarding the accuracy of its reporting, and all of its accounts were suspended from Twitter in June 2022 for violations of the site's policy on spam and platform manipulation. As of March 2024, Google appeared to no longer show search results for the website. The BNN website was deleted and moved to the website TrimFeed. Trimfeed was closed after The New York Times informed Chahal they were doing a report on BNN."

March 2, 2024 - Edits by Users: Amigao

Added Negative Content:
  • Infobox
    • Added Criminal charges: Domestic violence battery to Infobox
      • Added Content: "In 2022, Chahal founded the now-defunct news website"

June 6, 2024 - Edits by User: Gråbergs Gråa Sång

Added Negative Content:
  • Lead Section:
    • Introduced legal issues involving violence against women prominently in the opening sentences.
      • Added Content: "However, legal issues involving violence against women have resulted in his removal from two of his businesses.."

June 6, 2024 - Edits by User: Gråbergs Gråa Sång

Added Negative Content:
  • BNN Breaking Section:
    • Updated the section with details about controversies and the suspension of Twitter accounts.
      • Added Content: "The website was subject to several controversies regarding the accuracy of its reporting, and all of its accounts were suspended from Twitter in June 2022 for violations of the site's policy on spam and platform manipulation."

Positive Content Removed: Edits by User: Chisme

Gravity4:

  • 2022 Version: "Gravity4's main area of business was gathering useful customer data regarding their user experience to allow marketers to improve their ad targets. This company also started working in the AI sector and launched a marketing cloud for blockchain."
  • 2022 Version: "The company further launched two main applications named MonaChain and MonaBrowse that aimed to target fraud and ad blockers."

Philanthropy and Honors: Edits by User: Chisme

  • 2022 Version: "In 2012, after the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting, he committed US$1 million to found BeProud (since renamed to Chahal Foundation), a charitable foundation that supports the families of hate crime victims and combats child trafficking in India."

Specific Other Negative Edits Added To Date:

Domestic Violence Section Edits by User: Chisme

  • Added detailed and graphic descriptions of the incidents.
    • Added Content: "Video footage of the assault, taken by a camera in Chahal's bedroom ceiling, showed Chahal smothering the woman with a pillow and hitting and kicking her 117 times over a half-hour period."

Given these changes, it is clear that there has been a pattern of disruptive editing aimed at highlighting negative aspects of Gurbaksh Chahal's life while removing or minimizing his career achievements and contributions. I kindly request that the page be reverted to the version as of July 31, 2022, which can be found here: July 31, 2022 version. Thank you for your attention to this matter and for your efforts in maintaining the integrity and neutrality of this Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.139.133.12 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Gulnarhaciyeva on Ad blocking (01:09, 26 June 2024)

Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Spam --Gulnarhaciyeva (talk) 01:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Gulnarhaciyeva: I am not sure that I understand your question? TheSandDoctor Talk 04:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from B M Devereaux (12:04, 29 June 2024)

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Hello. I'm hoping to be able to add a fishing classic held in Rainbow Beach. I started working for Rainbow Beach Sports Club about 2/3 months ago and was surprised the fishing classic they've been hosting annually for 37 years wasn't even included in the Wikipedia page for Rainbow Beach: a town with a population of only 1200 people +/- When I looked at how I'm supposed to declare a conflict of interest (due to working there) I didn't understand where I had to insert the code. For my mind, which is new to this, there could have been two spots, and I didn't want to get it wrong so I closed the window. Bruce --B M Devereaux (talk) 12:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @B M Devereaux:! My apologies for the delayed response. It looks like you did correctly declare your conflict of interest on your user page, thank you! I would recommend reading this guide to writing your first article and this guide to references. The notability guideline that you are trying to meet for this would be WP:GNG. That might sound scary -- and it does take some time to build consistent good judgement -- but it essentially just means that article subjects on Wikipedia must show that they are notable, which is established by receiving significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the article subject.
I've edited the draft to clean up some formatting on it for you. (We don't need to put "#REDIRECT" in front of wikilinks.) If you have any questions about editing, I would strongly recommend following this interactive guide to get a hang of it and don't be afraid to ask questions at the Teahouse where more editors monitor for questions than here on my talk page (but you can ask questions here by all means).  . TheSandDoctor Talk 03:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Casperbruce on Wikipedia talk:Why create an account? (02:56, 10 July 2024)

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Say hi how long is this active --Casperbruce (talk) 02:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Casperbruce: I am afraid that I do not understand what you are asking. If you are asking how long your account will exist, it will exist forever as Wikipedia accounts cannot be deleted. However, should you choose, you can request courtesy vanishing or simply just stop using the account. If you don't like your username and want to have your account renamed, please read Wikipedia:Changing username; I can rename your account directly (if you reply specifying a new username that is available) or you can request it as described on the "changing username" page I linked last sentence. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jatinder kapoor on User:Jatinder kapoor (17:19, 16 July 2024)

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Hello how many days it will take to publish publically --Jatinder kapoor (talk) 17:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Jatinder kapoor: That isn't how Wikipedia works and Wikipedia also isn't a place for PR bios. I've deleted that user page because it is non-encyclopedic in its tone and read like a blatant advertisement. I would recommend reviewing this guide on article writing before trying again as well as this policy on conflicts of interest, this policy on paid editing, WP:AUTOBIO, and this notability guideline. Article subjects on Wikipedia must be notable, which is established by receiving significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the article subject. As written, that draft read more like a PR puff piece and lacked any sources whatsoever. If you have any further questions about what I've written here or how to proceed, please let me know. TheSandDoctor Talk 01:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Please help for my deleted sandbox page

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I am new to wikipedia, and my sandbox page, User:Dm815/sandbox, was speedily deleted and I am trying to gain access to the content that was deleted as I do not have any saved versions of my essay which is for a school assignment.

I go to the deleted support page and I found this account, could you please help? Dm815 (talk) 21:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Dm815: Please check the email address associated with your Wikipedia account as I have emailed the text of the page there. Please note that personal essays like you put there is not appropriate for posting on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a webhost for your schoolwork, sorry. If you want to learn about how to contribute to Wikipedia, you can do so by following this tutorial. TheSandDoctor Talk 01:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much, you have been the only respectful and helpful person I have encountered in this situation. Dm815 (talk) 01:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
@Dm815: You're welcome! Another good resource -- this time an interactive tutorial -- is The Wikipedia Adventure. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK for South by South Lawn

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On 18 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article South by South Lawn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 2016 festival South by South Lawn included a panel discussion on climate change led by President Obama? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/South by South Lawn. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, South by South Lawn), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
 
Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-30

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature News

  • Stewards can now globally block accounts. Before the change only IP addresses and IP ranges could be blocked globally. Global account blocks are useful when the blocked user should not be logged out. Global locks (a similar tool logging the user out of their account) are unaffected by this change. The new global account block feature is related to the Temporary Accounts project, which is a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors that are no longer made public.
  • Later this week, Wikimedia site users will notice that the Interface of FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") is improved and consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface and Wikimedia's design system. The FlaggedRevs interface experience on mobile and Minerva skin was inconsistent before it was fixed and ported to Codex by the WMF Growth team and some volunteers. [9]
  • Wikimedia site users can now submit account vanishing requests via GlobalVanishRequest. This feature is used when a contributor wishes to stop editing forever. It helps you hide your past association and edit to protect your privacy. Once processed, the account will be locked and renamed. [10]
  • Have you tried monitoring and addressing vandalism in Wikipedia using your phone? A Diff blog post on Patrolling features in the Mobile App highlights some of the new capabilities of the feature, including swiping through a feed of recent changes and a personal library of user talk messages for use when patrolling from your phone.
  • Wikimedia contributors and GLAM (galleries, libraries, archives, and museums) organisations can now learn and measure the impact Wikimedia Commons is having towards creating quality encyclopedic content using the Commons Impact Metrics analytics dashboard. The dashboard offers organizations analytics on things like monthly edits in a category, the most viewed files, and which Wikimedia articles are using Commons images. As a result of these new data dumps, GLAM organisation can more reliably measure their return on investment for programs bringing content into the digital Commons. [11]

Project Updates

  • Come share your ideas for improving the wikis on the newly reopened Community Wishlist. The Community Wishlist is Wikimedia’s forum for volunteers to share ideas (called wishes) to improve how the wikis work. The new version of the wishlist is always open, works with both wikitext and Visual Editor, and allows wishes in any language.

Learn more

  • Have you ever wondered how Wikimedia software works across over 300 languages? This is 253 languages more than the Google Chrome interface, and it's no accident. The Language and Product Localization Team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports your work by adapting all the tools and interfaces in the MediaWiki software so that contributors in our movement who translate pages and strings can translate them and have the sites in all languages. Read more about the team and their upcoming work on Diff.
  • How can Wikimedia build innovative and experimental products while maintaining such heavily used websites? A recent blog post by WMF staff Johan Jönsson highlights the work of the WMF Future Audience initiative, where the goal is not to build polished products but test out new ideas, such as a ChatGPT plugin and Add a Fact, to help take Wikimedia into the future.

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Question from Tayyab121 (05:17, 22 July 2024)

Latest comment: 3 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello,

I would like to contribute by uploading a biographical article from my account. Could you please provide me with the detailed steps to do so?

Thank you. --Tayyab121 (talk) 05:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello Tayyab121! I would also strongly advise not writing about yourself as you have an inherent (and unavoidable) conflict of interest. Having a Wikipedia article that discusses you also isn't always a good thing. If you insist on moving forward, please read this page, see this guide, and review the relevant notability guideline. You'll have to demonstrate that the article subject is wiki-"notable" by demonstrating in-depth coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and intellectually independent. This page might help shed a bit of light. TheSandDoctor Talk 03:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from GrooveLab (01:44, 28 July 2024)

Latest comment: 3 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, I am a new here. I am still learning and want to contribute on Wikipedia. My question is how can I find the subject which are notable enough so I can create article on them. I understand that the articles can be created if a subject is notable but how can I asses of whether it is notable or not? I would appreciate if you could teach me. Thanks! --GrooveLab (talk) 01:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi GrooveLab! That is a very good question! Understanding Wikipedia's notability guidelines definitely takes some time and experience, and even then you sometimes get it wrong. Though not the full picture necessarily, a good starting point would be asking yourself if that subject has been covered extensively by news media. If it is a person, have they been profiled by The New York Times? LA Times? BBC? Some other large and reputable news publication? Have they been profiled or covered repeatedly by others as well? If so, there is probably a strong argument for notability there, especially if that coverage has been over time. International coverage by reliable sources also definitely is a good sign, though not strictly necessary (if the LA Times and NYT and WSJ report in-depth on the same topic, you're probably okay, for example).
One thing that I would recommend looking out for is making a quick cross-reference with WP:RSP. A source not having an entry there is not necessarily a bad thing, but it does, for example, tell you when Rolling Stone or Forbes articles are suitable and where they're not. (For Rolling Stone it's anything but politics & society & "Culture Council", for Forbes it's staff written articles.)
While this is not a golden rule, I would recommend reading this short essay as it might help shed some light a bit better on sourcing and how that can help establish notability.
Where do your interests lie? Do you have any ideas for articles? TheSandDoctor Talk 15:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from FriendOfSira (23:27, 28 July 2024)

Latest comment: 3 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hello to TheSandDoctor! I'm a biblical scholar who's published on the Book of Ben Sira, and there's a section on Wikipedia's webpage for "Ben Sira” that will mislead readers. The section marked “Legend” needs to be removed from the page, since the text is NOT a legend, it’s a specific booklet, The Alphabet of Ben Sira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_of_Sirach). That was written may centuries after BBS, by someone who disliked Ben Sira (I imagine someone in colonial USA getting tired of hearing “early to bed, early to rise…” and ending the rhyme with “your gal goes out with other guys,” as in the blues song.) The Ben Sira page could also use quotes from authors who mention that Ben Sira alluded to Eve and to Cain with no mention of a Fall or fratricide. Thanks for any help! Teresa --FriendOfSira (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi FriendOfSira! Thank you for reaching out. I've removed the content as it was a word-for-word copy-paste job for the most part of, from what I can tell, a book still protected by US copyright law until 2029. Do you have any other sources or something that you believe the section should be replaced with? TheSandDoctor Talk 03:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi TheSandDoctor, Thank you so much! I recommend Pancratious Beentjes, especially, but also Benjamin Wright, Jeremy Corley, et. al. I presume I shouldn't recommend myself.:-)
Another point of interest is that BBS is the only non-rabbinic text mention in the Palestinian and Babylonian talmuds. [can get references if you want]
Here are some quotes from my writings, not sure if these authors are out of copyright. I used them because they were all fewer than the maximum word limit...
The Hebrew texts are notoriously difficult. Kister states that Ben Sira’s book “is full of rare words …, and his love of puns leads to their extensive use. Some of these were already incomprehensible to readers two or three generations after his time.” Could one of the “readers two or three generations after” Ben Sira be the grandson who translated the work into Greek?
Kister M (2002) Genizah Manuscripts of Ben Sira. In Reif SC (ed) Cambridge Genizah Collections. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, pp. 36–46, here p. 39.
Collins states that the “earliest datable allusions to the story of Adam and Eve are found in the wisdom book of Ben Sira, which was composed in the first quarter of the second century b.c.e.” He notes that Ben Sira’s discussion of themes from Genesis—a discussion that lacks both Fall and fratricide—“provides a salutary reminder that what may seem obvious to a modern interpreter was not necessarily accepted in the ancient world.” As an example, Collins notes that the “most remarkable feature of Ben Sira’s discussion of Genesis, however, is his blithe statement that God ‘filled them [Eve and Adam] with knowledge and understanding and showed them good and evil (Sir 17:3-12).’”
Again, thank you so much! Will be glad to write specifically for the Wikipedia, if you like. Teresa FriendOfSira (talk) 04:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Correction...Beentjes, Pancratius C.
The best source for information is the one listed on your webpage, bensira.org. The others are outdated or not recognized sources, to my knowledge. FriendOfSira (talk) 04:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-31

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Feature news

  • Editors using the Visual Editor in languages that use non-Latin characters for numbers, such as Hindi, Manipuri and Eastern Arabic, may notice some changes in the formatting of reference numbers. This is a side effect of preparing a new sub-referencing feature, and will also allow fixing some general numbering issues in Visual Editor. If you notice any related problems on your wiki, please share details at the project talkpage.

Bugs status

  • Some logged-in editors were briefly unable to edit or load pages last week. These errors were mainly due to the addition of new linter rules which led to caching problems. Fixes have been applied and investigations are continuing.
  • Editors can use the IP Information tool to get information about IP addresses. This tool is available as a Beta Feature in your preferences. The tool was not available for a few days last week, but is now working again. Thank you to Shizhao for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Project updates

  • There are new features and improvements to Phabricator from the Release Engineering and Collaboration Services teams, and some volunteers, including: the search systems, the new task creation system, the login systems, the translation setup which has resulted in support for more languages (thanks to Pppery), and fixes for many edge-case errors. You can read details about these and other improvements in this summary.
  • There is an update on the Charts project. The team has decided which visualization library to use, which chart types to start focusing on, and where to store chart definitions.
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikivoyage in Czech (voy:cs:) [12]

Learn more

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