The Property Financial
August 2021
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Hello, I'm Notfrompedro. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Claude Fenner have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Notfrompedro (talk) 21:21, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Harry Fenner
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A tag has been placed on Draft:Harry Fenner, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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Hi, Are you able to review my edited version of the page?
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August 2021
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Orange Mike | Talk 02:01, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Orangemike, I edited the page and asked the previous volunteer to review. I also pointed them to another industry professional's page to ask how that differed from the page we'd drafted no Harry Fenner. Could you come back to me on that? The Property Financial (talk) 17:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This is not an unblock request. 331dot (talk) 19:23, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Who's "we"? Accounts cannot be shared. Lavalizard101 (talk) 18:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi. What do you mean this is not an unblock request. I asked a question?
I drafted a page on Harry Fenner and I've been told it read as being too promotional. I cited sources for the key parts to the article and i didn't feel it read as promotional. I then asked how the article i drafters differs to this Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leslau#:~:text=Nick%20Leslau%20(born%2018%20August,Chairman%20of%20Prestbury%20Investments%20LLP.)
Could you tell me why my article is considered promotional but the above isn't?
Thank you
In addition to the above, I ahve read the GNG guidlines and also consider the article/subject meets those conditions. Grateful for a steering as to how Wiki would suggest a 3rd re-write. For context, in the UK Property industry the subject is one of the most relevant people in the UK.
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Request reason:
Your reason here The Property Financial (talk) 12:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
No reason given to unblock.
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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:57, 12 August 2021 (UTC)}} Hi OrangeMike, wonder if you could come back to me on the above.
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- The Property Financial, to have any chance of being unblocked, you will need to submit an unblock request. You do that by replacing the text "your reason here" in the unblock template with your actual reasons for wishing to be unblocked. At the very least, you will need to:
- specify whether more than one person has access to this account, and what you meant by "we"
- show that you understand why your account was blocked
- disclose any connection to Harry Fenner – see WP:COI and WP:PAID
- give us some idea of what non-promotional edits you might wish to make, and on what topics.
- I also suggest that you consider changing your username to something with a less institutional flavour. Please understand that if your only interest in this project is to promote Fenner, then you are in the wrong place – promotion is not permitted here. You might do better elsewhere. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Hi, My reasons for requesting unblock are because I had edited the article following the first notice whereby I was advised it was 'too promotional'. As per the Bio I put for the Property Financial User Page, my aim was to provide more information and background about key figures in the property industry but it seems at the first hurdle the Moderators wont allow it. I accept the first draft may have included words such as 'substantial' which may appear 'promotional' and so I removed edits like this, although without being in the industry, it is hard for moderators to know how these prominent individuals are, in truth, revolutionising an entire industry. Something that is most certainly worth noting within Wikipedia. My redrafted article, in my view, was then no different to the article here, is it not?. I wish to draft Wiki pages of approximately 8 high profile individuals in the UK Property Industry who are prominent in their field. I am not linked financially or by company to any of them. To be clear, my re-drafted article is below, is that acceptable and if so, I would then like to draft my next article on 'Nigel Wray'. Harry Michael Frederick Fenner (September 1989 − present) is a Property investor and Founder/Chief Executive Officer of Navana Holdings, a Property investment company that includes the Navana Property Group with an estimated fortune worth of over £250 million[1]. Background[edit source] Harry Fenner was born in September 1989 in Surrey, United Kingdom. He is the great nephew of Sir Claude Fenner KBE CMG, the first Inspector-General of Police of Malaysia, serving from 18 September 1958 to 28 February 1966. Harry Fenner is also the Grandson of Frederick George Fenner LVO MBE PPM, the Commissioner of the Colonial Police of Malaysia and also the Commissioner of the Seychelles Police force. In 2018, Harry founded the Navana Property Group[1], a Property Management company that would later revolutionise the industry in the United Kingdom and by 2021 Navana Holdings had been formed, a company with property investment holdings in the UK and overseas. Career[edit source] Harry was once tipped to appear in the 2012 Olympics before retiring from injury where his career started, working for Property managing agents in the Commercial and Residential sector. In early 2016, Harry moved to the investment arena where he secured initial private backing, which he then leveraged to acquire an international property and investment portfolio worth in excess of £90 million[2]. He formed the Navana Property Group in 2018. Harry is also CEO of Navana Holdings (parent company to Navana Property Group) which holds a mixed property portfolio in addition to several equity holdings in both start-up and mature companies in the property sector. Harry has featured in Property Week[3] as well as other high profile news outlets within the industry. Harry Fenner is a member of the Life Changers Circle, formed of a group of Philanthropic Entrepreneurs founded by John Caudwell. The foundation gives their time and wealth to the cause that finds cures for many child diseases. The Property Financial (talk) 15:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This is not a properly formatted request for unblock; it does not address the concerns of the various editors who have discussed your edits, it does not offer a new user name, and it instead offers a mediocre draft article. Orange Mike | Talk 16:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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The Property Financial (talk) 15:23, 12 August 2021 (UTC)}}
Hi, could someone review the above?
Regards