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March 2016

Hello, I'm Laberkiste. I noticed that you recently removed some content from The Golden Owl  with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Laber□^T 20:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• I was just pasting the line into an earlier section (since it is more relevant to the origins of the treasure hunt than to its later development). All the actual content would have been retained.

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Masquerade

Hi – I can see you're not very active on Wikipedia (one edit in the last three years) but I'll leave this message here in case you see it one day... it's not urgent anyway. I'm thinking about working on the article for Masquerade to try and get it towards a GA in the future. I've got a fair amount of notes that I've made and bits and pieces from newspapers and TV programmes, and later on this year I hope to get to the British Library and dig out Paul Slade's original article in The Idler in 2005, as well as the Bedfordshire on Sunday investigation by Frank Branston, once we're all allowed out of our homes again. The one missing piece is Bamber Gascoigne's Quest for the Golden Hare book, which as I'm sure you know can be found second-hand online, but costs a small fortune. As an armchair treasure hunt enthusiast, do you happen to own a copy of this book, and can supply me with citations from it? If not, don't worry... I'll do without it, or hope to one day find a reasonably-priced copy in a second-hand bookshop. In the meantime, I'll work on a copy of the article in my sandbox. Thank you. Richard3120 (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Hi Richard. Yes I have QftGH... was very lucky to find it online fairly cheap years ago. No digital copy though... do you just need me to find citations for specific things? Also: a few years ago I was planning an art/film project of my own, which would have been inspired by the Masquerade hunt, so I researched various documents, articles etc, presumably mostly the same stuff you've got. (Never got around to doing the actual art project of course.) Most of what I found is in a OneDrive here, feel free to use it. The Paul Slade Idler article is there, and an account by Frank Branston - not the original newspaper article though. twl_corinthian (talk) 12:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic... yes, that's fine, I wasn't after a digital copy, just possibly some page numbers here and there for the citations. The Paul Slade article from his planetslade.com website isn't his original 2005 Idler article - it's updated to 2009, because the first paragraph describes Williams' reunion with the hare after 30 years. I have a few other things as well... for example, a New York Times article stating that the US publication date was 3 October 1980, and it looks like the UK publication date was 20 September 1979, rather than August as the article currently states, but I have to check this still. Thank you for your reply and the link to the articles... I'll try and work on it while we're all stuck indoors... Richard3120 (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Sure, just let me know what you want looked up! QftGH is the best source but of course it pre-dates the revelations about the fraud. Fortean Times did an article about Masquerade a few years ago, but I never got around to looking that one up... they might have a different perspective although I doubt they have any extra facts. There's a BBC documentary on YouTube too, I guess you've probably seen that. (I don't suppose you know who has the Hare or where the Hare is now? That seems like the most exciting info! But the owners were anonymous when the hare was auctioned and also when shown at the V&A, as i recall). twl_corinthian (talk) 15:35, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I have a rough outline of the article in my sandbox at User:Richard3120/Masquerade – it still needs a lot of work, particularly the "Discovery" and "Legacy" sections, and many more citations to be added, although obviously I can't get to the British Library to look for any of the 1980s newspaper articles for the foreseeable future. I also think it might need some trimming, as it may be a bit long. But I'll work on it over the coming months – feel free to take a look and make any suggestions. And as to where the hare is now... well, that's the $64,000 question, isn't it... Richard3120 (talk) 01:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Looking good! Maybe shuffle the solution/search sections around a bit tho? Put the puzzle explanation first (although don't lead with the Sunday Times clue, that's pretty secondary, just start with how the book works). Then the bit about the hunt. Phrase like "to everyone's surprise' is maybe too subjective.twl_corinthian (talk) 08:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

btw if citations are needed, the bit about Barker and Rousseau solving the puzzle is QftGH p168, and the bit about Ken Thomas' letter is QftGH p184, alternatively the whole story of the solutions/discovery is QftGH chapters 13-14, which contains pretty much all the info at the time QftGH was published, but of course attributes Thomas' solution to sheer luck not insider info.

Yes, I was just trying to get ideas down and make sure I had included everything... I know it could be much better written and the POV statements taken out. I'm not sure about the discovery and solution parts... I just feel the location shouldn't be revealed before the solution section, and it's difficult to talk about Thomas and the discovery without doing so. But I'll have a think about that. I need to add something about the short-lived musical (probably in the legacy section) and also that the biggest armchair treasure hunt of the 21st century, Perplex City, was directly inspired by Masquerade – the creators have explicitly said so. Richard3120 (talk) 14:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

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