Thedarkman

Montreal

What's happening to you on the Monteral page is (and I don't agree with this) there are editors who won't let you change the page. They have this very narrow definition which permits them to use the words "Monteal", "Paris", "French" and "second" in the same sentence, and that's really what they're about. So, you can make whatever changes you like, they'll just narrow the definition, or deny your references -- whatever it takes. It's bizarre boosterism of the worst sort -- the kind of bias which gives Wikipedia a bad name. Rerutled (talk) 00:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Consensus and sourcing

The edit you are proposing to the Montréal page is without consensus. Importantly, it's also without reliable sourcing (and contradicts the existing reliable sourcing on the Montréal and Brussels articles). Please discuss and provide reliable sourcing on the article's talk page before reverting further. user:J aka justen (talk) 00:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Consensus and sourcing

the original edit to the page also does not have sourcing that provides information which the user can follow to verify that Montreal is the second largest Francophone city in the world. However, after a bit more research on Wikipedia, I find that the Montreal article contradicts information found on the page for Kinshasa, indicating that Kinshasa is the second largest Francophone city.

^ a b Nadeau, Jean-Benoit; Barrow, Julie (2006). The Story of French. St. Martin's Press. p. 301. ISBN 0312341830, 9780312341831. "The world's second-largest francophone city is not Montreal, Dakar, or Algiers, as most people would assume, but Kinshasa, capital of the former Zaire."

RE: Consensus and sourcing

I have placed back my edit. I believe that I have consensus with rerutled, based on his initial comment on talk. The reference I have provided is more accessible than the one that has initially been provided in the article by other editors. Also, if the defense of reverting the article is that it "contradicts the existing reliable sourcing" that is available on other wiki pages, then the Montreal page contradicts the reliable sourcing of the information on the Kinshasa page as well. Because the CIA world fact book shows the french speaking population of Kinshasa as higher than that of Montreal, and a reliable, quotable source from this century states that Kinshasa is the second largest francophone city, it is dubious that a text from 1971 could override the facts that are freely available on the internet.

June 2009

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At Montreal, you removed four times in 24 hours the assertion that Montreal is the second-largest somethingorother. Though the assertion may well be questioned, you are supposed to get support on the Talk page before changing a hotly-contested item like this one. Many people have edited the article recently and even if you have the support of one other person, it's unlikely to be viewed as a consensus. EdJohnston (talk) 02:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-06-06/Montreal

Hello, this is to inform you that a Mediation Cabal case in which you have been listed as a party has been opened. To start the mediation process, please visit the case page to confirm your acceptance of both mediation and me as mediator. Thank you. Vicenarian ^{(T · C)} 17:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)