User talk:Timotheus Canens/Archives/2015/11

Latest comment: 8 years ago by TheDarkLordSeth in topic An Inquiry From Old Times


The Signpost: 28 October 2015

Deleted Article IPG DentistEdu Technique

Hello,

I have noticed that the article "IPG DentistEdu Technique" was deleted. This article is mine and i couldn't upload it due to some restrictions and i gave it to an "expert" to do so. (in case my name does not match the uploaders one)

Why was it deleted in first place ?

Can you advice me on how to undelete it? If not, can you tell me how to upload it again from scratch ?

Request for userfication

Hello Timotheus,

a while ago you deleted the article Solrad 9 because it had been created by the serial copyright violator User:Marshallsumter. Could you please restore this page to my user space so that I can work on it. I intend to rewrite the whole thing and I will take special care to remove any possible copyvios. Thanks, Reyk YO! 18:54, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Reyk: I don't want to restore potential copyvios, but I'd be happy to email you a copy. T. Canens (talk) 08:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, that will be fine. Thank you. Reyk YO! 08:45, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
@Reyk: Email sent. T. Canens (talk) 03:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 November 2015

Draft:Jordan Shapiro

Dear Timotheus Canens: I found this abandoned draft. It seems that you deleted the mainspace article a couple of months ago because of undisclosed paid editing. This draft was around longer than that, and hasn't been edited for six months. I was planning to look for some references and improve it, but if it's "tainted", I don't want to waste my time. Should it be deleted? —Anne Delong (talk) 03:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Anne Delong: The draft should be OK. A common OM sock tactic is to take declined/abandoned drafts and create articles out of them (without proper attribution). Looks like that's what happened here. T. Canens (talk) 03:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I (and several others) have been going through the abandoned declined drafts systematically. When I find one that's been pasted to mainspace by a different editor from the one who created it, I've been merging the histories back together. I've done about 200 of these. Is there something I should be checking first? I wouldn't want to be impeding your investigations. By the way, I read the section that you linked above, and aside from the pasting without attribution, a lot of the "behavioural traits" in that list apply to me. I spend most of my time improving and promoting abandoned AfC drafts. I even like linking geographical placenames, although I don't consider it useless. As well, several people have contacted me in the past in reply to e-mails which they had received, ostensibly from me, offering to improve their articles (which I didn't send, of course). If this happens again, where is the best place to report it? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
@Anne Delong: If you see similar suspicious behavior in the future, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Orangemoody is probably the best place to report it. For known OM creations, I'd recommend not merging the history (and just restart from the declined draft), unless you can verify that the OM creation introduced no other copyright issues. History merges shouldn't be an impediment to investigation - if anything, the deletion/restoration makes it obvious where the original article came from. T. Canens (talk) 07:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 November 2015

Talkback

 
Hello, Timotheus Canens. You have new messages at WP:AE.
Message added 02:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 02:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Orangemoody again

Dear Timotheus Canens: Sorry to bother you again. I did report some stuff at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Orangemoody as you suggested, but I was told that the examples I listed were too old, and then the whole page was immediately archived and the case closed. I guess I made a pest of myself. Can you tell me how fresh the edits need to be before they should be reported? Should I report them at Wikipedia talk:Long-term abuse/Orangemoody instead, or is there a better place? Today I can across Faraz Minooei, at which a brand new editor improved a page and submitted it, and when it was declined moved the page to mainspace today after exactly ten edits, then unhid the categories, after which another user with only one undeleted edit marked the page as reviewed using the page curation tool. Is this the type of thing I should report? I'm pretty sure it's fresh enough.—Anne Delong (talk) 12:45, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

CU data is generally kept for 3 months. I took a look at those users and didn't see anything obvious, but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on. T. Canens (talk) 04:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks.—Anne Delong (talk) 05:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Sunday Nov 22: Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon & Women In Science Edit-a-thon

Two options for this Sunday: Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon & Women In Science Edit-a-thon
 
 

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The Signpost: 18 November 2015

Jean-Pierre Bolduc

Hi, I saw you closed the deletion review for Jean-Pierre Bolduc as default closed. I don't believe that is the correct outcome as the majority (very experienced users) supported overturning or overturn to NC, and for valid reasons. Multiple sources were provided that attest notability, and I don't understand why they are being ignored and dismissed. Please take a second look. Thank you. [1] МандичкаYO 😜 17:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

And a substantial number of equally well-experienced editors found the AFD close to be within admin discretion. I stand by my close. T. Canens (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm honestly not sure how you can claim there's no consensus to overturn. I think you should take another look. I see clear consensus to overturn - 2:1 in favour in fact. How can this be anything other than another supervote? Experienced editors wished to keep the article; even more experienced editors wished to overturn the closer's decision. You seem to have ignored all of them and just endorsed the original closer's decision. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I count six people who either said it was within discretion or explicitly endorsed the close (Sandstein, Hobit, Stifle, HW, Bearcat, and Calton) and seven overturns (you, RAN, No such user, Wikimandia, DGG, Lankiveil, and WilyD). Doesn't exactly sound like 2:1 to me. T. Canens (talk) 17:58, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Bearcat certainly didn't opine that and Sandstein, as the closer, can hardly be expected not to endorse his decision. So that's actually 7:4 (which is near as damn it 2:1). Certainly nothing like a consensus to endorse there, is there? -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Bearcat wrote If things had been different, and my comments in the discussion had been signed by someone else while I had been the person assessing it for closure, I would have assessed it the same way: three policy-based delete votes to just one policy-based keep, constituting more than enough for a delete consensus, with three irrelevant keep votes that had to be discounted for lacking a connection to Wikipedia's actual notability or sourcing policies. That's a completely correct and valid close option according to AFD's actual rules. Sounds like "within discretion" to me. As to Sandstein, I didn't discount you because you are the nominator, who can "hardly expected not to" !vote to overturn, did I? WP:AN is that way. "Certainly nothing like a consensus to endorse there, is there?" - where did I say there's a consensus to endorse? T. Canens (talk) 17:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 25 November 2015

An Inquiry From Old Times

Hi. Back in 2010 I was banned from a topic. I believe you were the administrator that issued the ban. It's been years. You probably don't remember me. I can't (at least the details). An appeal of the ban was not successful at the time. I consulted AGK recently to figure out what to do as well. Here is the link to that discussion if you're interested. What I want to know is whether that process still has any repercussions to this day? If it does, how can I fix it? The reason I ask these is that I'm hoping to move on to a new account and read somewhere that such issues can carry on to the new account. The purpose is to have a complete clean start. If you're not the right person to ask these please refer me to the right person or the process in which to resolve this. Thank you. TheDarkLordSeth (talk) 09:38, 29 November 2015 (UTC)