User talk:Tinucherian/Archives/2009/June

In need of your mentorship

Hi,

I need help from an experienced Wikipedian, and I saw your name over at WP:ADOPT.

I need your advice concerning a WikiProject I've been coordinating. Here's the situation:

The project is WP:WPOOK. The set of pages the project concerns is listed at Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge and Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline, and has grown to about 500 articles in the encyclopedia. I also run a team of 5 advanced wiki-editors – the team communicates via user talk page posts. We use a variety of tools such as AWB, bots, Linky, etc. to execute tasks on batches of hundreds of pages at a time. Three of the team's members are admins, and 2 of the members have bot accounts. The team works on tasks that I assign, on the OOK and also on problems that the OOK has revealed in the encyclopedia-at-large (reverse outlines are good at that) – we've worked on things as diverse as creating country demonym disambiguation pages, to cleaning up the CIA World Factbook data on country "Demographics of" pages, to renaming "Cuisine of" articles to their demonymic form, to organizing the "Index of x articles" pages, etc. I also send out a newsletter or project update to the team, to the WikiProject members, and to anybody else who has been involved or who has expressed interest (20 to 30 Wikipedians).

So you see, we can implement just about any strategy. But we need more strategies. Your ideas on the following would be greatly appreciated...

The goals of the WikiProject are:

1. Increase awareness of readers of the existence of the outlines on Wikipedia
2. Complete the existing outlines
3. Create an outline for every subject that is exensive enough to benefit from having an outline (core subjects and major or extensive fields). There are thousands of these.
4. Recruit as many editors to work on these as possible (we need thousands of editors working on these)
5. Surpass portals in number by the end of the summer, and leave them in the dust by the end of the year
6. Get the major outline subject areas displayed on the Main Page (in place of or in addition to the portal links at the top of the page)
7. Increase the OOK to higher quality than Britannica's Outline of Knowledge (published in its Propaedia volume).

We've posted over a thousand banners and notices so far, which resulted in just a couple complaints – one complainer posted at WT:WPOOK & WP:AN & WP:VPP and the other posted at WP:VPR. Not a bad negative feedback level for such a large posting. The complaints went nowhere, as several users came forward in defense of outlines.

I've proposed a 200-Wikiproject contest at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries, and I had notices posted on the talk pages of all the corresponding country WikiProjects' talk pages.

I've created some pointers for developing outlines to guide editors through the process of building outline pages, because once many editors are attracted, I won't be able to instruct them one-on-one. I've also been working on a new article for the subject, since the current article is very lacking.

I was hoping you could comment on how to achieve the goals above.

Also I'm interested in every possible way of reaching readers and editors of Wikipedia. How can I get the most eyes and typing fingers on Wikipedia's outlines? Contacting editors directly without a reason relevant to them is spam, which I'd like to avoid. There are 75,000 regular editors on Wikipedia, and I want to contact all of them. So how do I do it? Directly or indirectly, I don't care which, piecemeal or all-at-once, all methods are fine with me. But I've got to find ways. I need your help.

I would also like to know how to find or attract editors to create new outlines. And I need advice on finding editors to help write the new outline article mentioned above (it needs to be fleshed out, completely referenced, and brought to featured article status).

Can you recommend anyone in particular who might be interested in sinking their teeth into a project like this? Or ways to reach groups of editors? Or ways to reach all editors? I welcome any and all advice you might have.

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

The Transhumanist    03:13, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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I guess you are done with it. I will do the same. -- Tinu Cherian – 05:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Transport in India

I noticed you're a Hindi level 2 contributor, any chance of you being abvailable for the Hindi version of Transport in India? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. But my writing skills on Hindi is really poor :( -- Tinu Cherian – 10:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Mail

Ofcourse, I have mail. :) Kensplanet^T_C 05:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Norton Internet Security as Feature Article

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XXXIX (May 2009)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXXIX (May 2009)
From the coordinators With end of year exams beckoning for many members, this has been a quiet month on the talk pages for Milhist. (If you are facing exams yourself, we all wish you the very best of luck!) During this quieter period, some of our most active reviewers are busy revising so it would be really appreciated if you can help with peer reviews or A-Class reviews. You can easily track articles needing review, by copying {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your userpage. This month sees our first newsletter editorial. The idea is to provide regular tips and hints to help editors get up to speed with our large (and sometimes complicated) project. This month's piece, by EyeSerene, explains the workings of the project's main template, which is at the core of the project's tagging and assessing activities.  Roger Davies talk 20:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash Arthur Henry Cobby Battle of Barnet Fort Ticonderoga Fountain of Time Neil Hamilton Fairley Operation Perch SMS Seydlitz SS Pennsylvanian New featured lists: List of United States Military Academy alumni (Medal of Honor) List of United States Military Academy alumni (Superintendents) New featured topics: New featured pictures: The Battle of Schevening USS West Virginia (BB-48) New A-Class articles: Albert Kesselring Frank Bladin Henry Burrell (RAN officer) List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Kriegsmarine List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Schnellboot service List of Knight's Cross recipients of the U-boat service Midshipman SM UB-14 SM UB-16 SS American (1900) Teddy Sheean Tucker class destroyer Yorktown-class gunboat
Project news The Contest department has completed its twenty-sixth month of competition, with 83 articles entered by 15 editors. This month's top scorer is Bellhalla with 123 points followed by Sturmvogel 66 with 101 points. They receive the Chevrons and the Writer's Barnstar respectively. Parsecboy commendably came third with 47 points, with honorable mentions going to Ian Rose (38), Ed (28), Abraham, B.S. (15), the_ed17 (12), Amore Mio (11) and Kirk (11). Thanks also go to Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus, DPdH, Lordoliver, Belissarius, Wild Wolf, Gaia Octavia Agrippa and mynameinc, who also fielded entries. In a welcome addition to a long under-represented area, this month saw the creation of the Pakistani military history task force, which hits the ground running with 11 participants. In another task force development, please help recruit members for some of our smallest and quietest task forces. If you know anyone who may be interested, or are interested yourself, please see the drive discussion. The affected task forces are (with numbers of particpants in brackets): Taiwanese military history (2); Polish military history (4); Dutch military history (6); Military historiography (6); New Zealand military history (7); Baltic states military history (8); National militaries (8); Southeast Asian military history (8); War films (8); Early Muslim military history (9); Intelligence (9); Lebanese military history (9); South American military history (9); and Spanish military history (9).
Awards and honours Bellhalla has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal with Oakleaves for SM U-10, SM UB-14 and SM UB-16. MisterBee1966 has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Kriegsmarine, List of Knight's Cross recipients of the Schnellboot service, and List of Knight's Cross recipients of the U-boat service. Ian Rose has been awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for Arthur Henry Cobby, Frank Bladin and Henry Burrell (RAN officer).
Editorial: "How to use the Milhist template" Welcome to a new occasional feature of The Bugle, where over coming issues we'll be exploring some of the roles, tasks, and technical functions that go into creating what archivist and researcher Simon Fowler has described as the best general resource for military history on the internet.† As a project we can rightly be proud of that accolade, and we gratefully acknowledge the debt we owe to those dedicated editors from across Wikipedia that have helped to make the Military history WikiProject what it is today. Many editors' first inkling of milhist's existence is when they spot our project banner on an article talk page. The banner can be easily added to appropriate articles by any editor, by typing {{WPMILHIST}} at (or near) the top of the talk page on a new line, and saving the page with an appropriate edit summary. This short form of the template will add the article to our project, and also flag the article as needing assessment and assignment to a task force by automatically adding it to the unassessed articles and articles with no associated task force categories. As with many templates in use on Wikipedia, additional parameters can be specified. Possibly the most useful to include is the class parameter, because this will help out any editors who come along later to assess the article. To add the class parameter, edit the template markup to look like {{WPMILHIST|class=}}... and if you wish, have a read through the assessment guidance on milhists's quality scale and assign a rating from Stub- to B-Class yourself. A banner template with, for example, a Stub-Class article rating will look like {{WPMILHIST|class=stub}}. Because B-Class is assessed against a checklist it has some additional parameters, so when adding the project banner to an article talk-page, even if you don't intend to assess the article yourself it can be a real help to subsequent editors to include these too. This version of the template can be entered as {{WPMILHIST|class=|B1=|B2=|B3=|B4=|B5=}}. For detailed guidance on exactly what the five B-Class criteria are, see the B-class checklist. Finally, when adding the milhist banner it's useful to assign the article to one (or more) of our task forces. This will help to bring it to the attention of those editors most likely to be interested in, and knowledgeable about, the subject. As with assessment, task force assignment is accomplished by adding a parameter to the template—in this case, simply the name of the task force followed by =yes (or =y). For example, to assign a Start-Class article to the Second World War and Canadian task forces, the template should read {{WPMILHIST|class=start|B1=|B2=|B3=|B4=|B5=|WWII=yes|Canadian=yes}}. For a full list of all the banner template parameters and more detailed usage instructions, see Template:WPMILHIST; if you are unsure as to whether or not an article belongs with milhist or what task force(s) might be appropriate, or if you have any other questions, you are welcome to ask at our main project talk page. Happy templating! EyeSerenetalk †Simon Fowler, Guide to Military History on the Internet, UK:Pen & Sword 2007, ISBN 978-1-84415-606-1, p. 7
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Thanks!

Thank you for the barnstar! :)

Going thru a relocation phase... Maybe I will be away for a while... I miss the activity here. :( Paalappoo (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. Hoping that you will be active again as before soon :D -- Tinu Cherian – 06:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

BAG Nakon

Was closing as you typed :) -- Avi (talk) 04:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

See I read your mind :D -- Tinu Cherian – 05:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: your edit summary

In this edit you removed craigslist saying it's "controversial to be there". May I ask why? -- œ^™ 02:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

With all these Craigslist controversies and illegal activities by users, I felt it is inappropriate to 'promote' it in WP. Just my opinion. feel free to revert it if really think otherwise. -- Tinu Cherian – 02:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I see. Okay I'm gonna go ahead and revert because none of those events in that article have anything to do with Wikipedia. It's not inappropriate, it's helpful for local Wikipedians to connect with each other. Craigslist is a wonderful resource if used properly. Also I don't think NPOV policy applies to most project namespace pages, especially WP:MEET, which is meant to be a promotion, and it's a helpful suggestion. Regards, œ^™ 02:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. As you wish -- Tinu Cherian – 02:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Newsletter

I'm not sure if anyone else will edit the newsletter. Could you look over the text – in particular, the note about the meetup in Bangalore, making sure the information is current and correct? Thanks, [sd] 02:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok.I guess it is done from your side.I will copyedit if needed and drop them on the talk pages -- Tinu Cherian – 02:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Could you leave a note (that you'll soon "drop them on the talk pages") the discussion board in case anyone wanted to edit it further? [sd] 02:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

← I have replied to your post. Thanks for explaining that. Note—I just wanted to clarify that the formatting (that is, the lines above and below the bot message) is unnecessary. I added the lines to distinguish the proposed bot message from my post. Cheers, [sd] 04:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Didnt really get that change...can you fix it ? -- Tinu Cherian – 04:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, got it after reading WT:INB, I will fix it myself -- Tinu Cherian – 05:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

← Great; thanks. Looking at the code you added, ~~<includeonly>~~</includeonly><noinclude>~~</noinclude> is a nice trick. :) [sd] 05:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I have been delivering newletters by bot for some time ...Btw good job on the newsletter. I will leave a msg when I am done with my changes for you to have a final look. -- Tinu Cherian – 05:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Is it OK with you to hold off delivering until tomorrow? If you want to deliver them by noon (IST) that's fine, but I won't be able to look over your changes at the moment. Sorry, [sd] 05:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, let me know tommorrow after seeing the changes and then only I will unleash my -- Tinu Cherian – 05:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

:D Alright; feel free to take a look. [sd] 01:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

"While this issue has been resolved,..." what does this refer to ? -- Tinu Cherian – 02:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

See my edit. I thought the recent article, from MiD DAY, was a good reminder of Wikipedia's core policies. [sd] 03:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I missed the wikilink. Ok. I guess we are ready to go ! Rock on ! -- Tinu Cherian – 03:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits on Uttar Pradesh

Recently few Users have massively revamped Uttar Pradesh article. Although any positive edits are welcomed but large scale revisions and revamps are advised to be done after discussion and consensus especially on articles of priority. As you have are member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh you are invited to participate in discussions on talk:Uttar Pradesh

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WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 1 – June 2009

Project news Congratulations to the West Bengal workgroup for having their flagship article featured on the Main Page! The Indian states workgroup is also involved in maintaining articles about India's states and union territories. » WikiProject Indian roads was recently started as a new workgroup, to standardize and improve articles related to Indian roads, mainly the National and State Highways. After all, India has the second largest road network in the world. Iravan, the son of Arjuna, is now our 85th good article. How do we know this? Since last year, more processes have been automated, increasing productivity. Article alerts update the project with what's happening to India-related articles, from copyright violations to featured article candidates. To do… During the last few weeks, peer reviews for the recent general election and 2003 Afro-Asian Games (held in Hyderabad) were opened and are waiting for more comments, as are several articles at the peer review department. Sikkim has been nominated for FAR, and Hastings Ismay, 1st Baron Ismay has been nominated for FAC. » Currently, 11,092 Indian articles need images. Please improve these pages, especially if you enjoy photography! We look forward to more contributions from you. To get started, go to the noticeboard. »

From the editors… The last newsletter was written a year ago. In June 2008, Indian Premier League was "hot" on Wikipedia, but the article about this year's IPL has attracted 477 editors, or 53% more than the previous year! Even the number of articles in the scope of our project jumped by a whopping 18,500+ articles in an year. The 3.2-year-old India quiz continues to attract old and new Wikipedians, so join in the fun! Wikipedians are organizing a meetup in Bangalore on July 4 or 5. If you are interested, head over to the page and add your name! Topics of discussion include Indian language editions of Wikipedia and Wikimedia India. RegentsPark, one of the prominent members of our project, was promoted to adminship this year. If you'd like to know who are the most avid editors of Wikipedia by number of edits, refer to this list. "While this issue has been resolved, one asks the question – what happens when there is a conflict of opinions? What about a Wikipedia entry on India and Pakistan, or the LTTE and the Tamils? Who can edit? Will the information be true?" writes B. Narasimhan of MiD DAY as deeper implications of the Scientology arbitration case,1 reminding us of the core principles of verifiability and the neutral point of view. This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! — [sd], Ganeshk and Tinu Cherian Project · Portal · Members · Noticeboard · Discussion+

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Wikipedia Academy

I'm in Chennai at the moment, so I would appreciate it if you could provide me with any information about the WP Academy that's supposed to be running in the city. Would love to pop in for a bit.

Also, you seem to have forgotten to sign your last edit here ;-) Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 14:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ! I have signed now... Btw can you send me a mail... ? use the email option. I will reply with whom to contact details back -- Tinu Cherian – 16:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I've emailed you...please check. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 06:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied ! -- Tinu Cherian – 07:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Bugger

Hey Tinu, can you just check out Raghuji Karande and User talk:Nilnone?

I couldn't find anything notable so I added a notability tag and Nilnone keeps removing it, and then when I left a message on his talk page, he blanked it as if nothing ever happened. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It is deleted now -- Tinu Cherian – 07:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Can Wikipedia endorse one Church as uniquely vailid over others?

Wikipedians at Talk:Roman Catholic Church are discussing the merits of changing the article name as such.
Roman Catholic Church → Catholic Church. Please share your opinions there. --Carlaude ^talk 12:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIX and XX

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Something for you

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		I've been following Tinuecherian's contributions over the past couple of years, and am delighted to present to him this barnstar for his tireless contributions to Wikipedia, and to India-related articles. It takes a very special editor to achieve all that he has achieved on Wikipedia. Fantastic job so far...keep 'em coming! AreJay (talk) 05:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to Tinucherian by AreJay (talk) on 05:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your kind words, AreJay -- Tinu Cherian – 05:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Bangalore meetup

Nice to hear about the WP:Bangalore meetup. Look forward to attending it. Just a clarification – what's the difference between "possible" and "likely" attendees? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 08:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I had just copy pasted the template of the previous meetup page.... "possible" means sure and "likely" means not sure... you may rename if you can replace with a better term -- Tinu Cherian – 15:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't received the mail with your address yet – please resend if you've sent it already. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I have seen your mail. I am just drafting it as of now. Will send it across all. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian – 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

categories

Hi, I am new to wiki. How do I tag my articles to various categories?--Netturs (talk) 13:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You can add a category to the bottom of the page as [[Category:category_name]] -- Tinu Cherian – 09:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-- 11:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Netturs (talk • contribs)

CBI

I should have been :) I have a good skill in spotting unusual stuffs.--GDibyendu (talk) 09:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I thought I had better instincts like this... You beat me this time :) Anyways good work ! -- Tinu Cherian – 09:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, I noticed that the GOG guy has been giving trouble on the India pages to advance his own beliefs and cause, and does not seem to be listening to any of the other editors about OR or SYN. If I could make a suggestion, maybe his english skills might not be that good for the more complicated rules like that. Maybe you could have a editor who knows the official language of Goa (Kokani I think) try explaining it to him. Just a suggestion. Deavenger (talk) 19:02, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Seriously by the language GoG uses, I dont underestimate his english skills. Deepak D'Souza (talk · contribs · count) is a konkani AFAIK. but even he rejected the idea at Wikipedia talk:INB#Inclusion of other territories of India. I will leave him a note this discussion -- Tinu Cherian – 18:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I really wish I could be as nice as you guys are. But sorry, Im a little low on patience.Language isn't really a problem here. Anyway I could only be of limited help as I am not schooled in Konkani, just speak the home edition. The dialect would be annother issue. Anyway our ganvkaar seems to know enough English to find his way around the wiki-maze on his own [1] , [2] :-). And maybe I am a bit paranoid, but this guy has also learned to put his socks: [3].

The problem as I see it is this: our ganvkaar is a young, idealistic, hot-blooded, chap who is concerned about the decline in the communidade system, possibly a member of the priviledged class who is no longer receiving his priviledges. He has read bits and pieces about the UN, Goa's history, international law and somehow come to the crazy conclusion that the state has no authority over any privately held land if it was established after the land came into private ownership. Parts of his theory are picked from those who were opposed to India's millitary invasion of Goa. Im sorry but 10 different people have tried talking nicely to him and it hasn't made a bit of difference. I doubt I will be able to even if I try to talk to him in Konkani. --Deepak D'Souza 18:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your valuable comments, Deepak. I am feeling a bit guilty of being a bit rude to him due to my ignorance of history of Goa. Thatz why I also wanted a re-think. -- Tinu Cherian – 09:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't feel guilty about it, Tinu. Your behaviour, if it can be called rude, was a natural response to his behaviour. He will be one of thousands of such editors who will come, make a big drama and dissapear. Probably, I am more disappointed about how GoG turned out than you. We have very few native Goan editors on who are active and there is a lot of work to be done. I was hoping that with a dozen odd editors trying to talk sense to him he would see that he was mistaken, but well... . IMHO, Wikipedia can do with lesser but sincere editors rather than people who merely waste other people's time. Let see if he comes back and shows a willingness to work within the rules. Then Ill surely help him out. --Deepak D'Souza 12:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks ... Let us see -- Tinu Cherian – 12:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks, I had noticed that ! -- Tinu Cherian – 08:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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adminship?

would u consider running for adminship? --Like ICare 12:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Like I, But I am not interested in running a RFA myself now...:) I am happy the way I edit now.. But some day when I feel that I am more mature and "eligible", I will be happy to be nominated. Till then , kindly give me creative feedback on my edits and other Wiki activities. Thanks again, I like you :) -- Tinu Cherian -

well, you are certainly eligible. it is ur call. u r doing one hell of a job for Indian wikipedia. pls keep it up. --Like ICare 13:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanq.. I am humbled by your kind words.Words from people like you keeps me strong here! -- Tinu Cherian – 13:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

replied on your mail. Kensplanet^T_C 07:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

You would be able to help out even more if you had admin tools and I think you would pass RfA with ease. You have done an incredible job on the English Wikipedia with content creation but I think you have much still to offer the project if you administered articles as well. I urge you to reconsider Tinu. -- Samir 07:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes please. WP:INDIA needs fresh blood from a new era after all the nonsense int eh past few years YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes agree. You even run bots. You can easily get adminship. So who's nominating Kensplanet^T_C 07:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing you'll have the benefit of a YellowMonkey nom (which entitles you to more than a modicum of cachet -- sort of like a Centurion card) -- Samir 07:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

No I think that's a jinx. A lot of Indians I nominated got in trouble, I would guess about 25% got into rather major trouble or scams. I also recommended the other arbitrators make Nichalp a CU in mid-2007; they didn't because he was on wikibreak, but in any case, my noms usually get tons of support, and a very high % of them blow up after becoming admins YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys, you people are really kind to me. But currently I am more interested in content creation and simple works on Wikipedia. Can you allow me a few months ( say atleast by August time frame) so that I can concentrate on my pet project of Indian villages which I am working on now with the data collection -- Tinu Cherian – 07:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. YellowMonkey and Kensplanet -- shall we work together on a nom for Tinu for August and then Tinu can decide when he wants it to go up -- Samir 07:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

If you all insist :), OK ( Blush ! :D ) -- Tinu Cherian – 07:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not an admin. How can I nominate? :( Kensplanet^T_C 07:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Kens, you dont have to be an admin to nominate. well, nom from trusted and hardworking people like you adds lots of weightage... -- Tinu Cherian – 08:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Tinu, you would be a gr8 admin for sure! --59.182.55.243 (talk) 06:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanq..May I help you with an account creation if you dont already have one? -- Tinu Cherian – 07:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Just curious

Tinu, Can you please explain these? Not sure why you would create new accounts and welcome them yourself? Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 03:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I got it clarified. This explained it for me. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 03:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I help people for account creation at ACC -- Tinu Cherian – 04:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Vazhakulam and South Vazhakulam

"Both Vazhakulam and South Vazhakulam looks as same people. Need advice from some experts in the same area. If they are same, I propose South Vazhakulam to be merged to Vazhakulam. -- Tinu Cherian" Comment:

Both are actually different places. So if its merged do u think its meaningful??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mekkattu (talk • contribs) 16:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

If both are geographically different places, we will keep as different articles. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian – 02:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

State-sponsored terrorism

[4] Occuringcarrots (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes,I have seen that but I am NOT intending to revert to have a edit war myself... The user who had reverted this page doesnt know the history of this article. Several Pak POV pushers ( and their socks) had been trying push that stuff to this article since long... -- Tinu Cherian – 05:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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WP Biography

Hi. I noticed that back in May you added WPBiography banner in hundreds of articles. I would like to comment that Wikiproject biography is not dealing with companied such as this one and that usually gods are part of Wikiproject Mythology or Wikiproject Religion and not Biography. I jope that you are more careful in the future that that you can help us remove some misplaced banners. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 23:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know this. I have corrected most of my mistakes related to BIO tagging. This happened mainly because the article was placed in Category:Indian architects ( which you had removed now ) which is primarly a BIO category. This is also a wrong category I had removed from the same article. I was more interested in tagging india related articles for {{WP India}} and thought of tagging Category:Indian people for Wikiproject biography also ( i have stopped wp:biography tagging now) I 've tagged thousands of articles for various Wikiprojects till now and usually tag articles for projects with extreme care ( that is why i use manual save with my account these days, instead of bot flagged/auto save account with my AWB bot and yea some mistakes did happen sometimes. Thanks again. Apologies for the inconvenience -- Tinu Cherian – 04:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on Newsletter

Hey Tinu. Good to see your message. This year I am just not able to spare free time for WP. I read the Newletter and wanted to congratulate you on good work. I would definitely try to login more often lend some help whenever possible. Keep up the good work!!! --GPPande 11:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Pandeji! -- Tinu Cherian – 11:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Not An Attack

That was not an attack, it was a reply to misinformation being spread by Satanoid/Morbid Fairy. He seems to "canvass" all and sundry and accuse me and Sineed of being "Extremists". Before you warn me, warn him about his behaviour. Look at his history. Everyone just ignores his behaviour. Thanks --Sikh-history (talk) 07:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I will take a look but I have noticed your past behaviours also. Kindly be aware that we are here to build an encyclopedia. -- Tinu Cherian – 07:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

What past behaviours? --Sikh-history (talk) 08:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Also noted that what I stated was NOT considered a personal attack under wikipedia guidlines. Pointing out that someone had two accounts, has been warned for WP:Outing (probably the most serious offence on wikipedia) and also been blocked is not a personal attack. Please remove the warning from my talk page. Thanks--Sikh-history (talk) 19:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you

Thank you Tinu for not only your support, but for your kind words as well. To be honest, yep, I wish I would have been involved longer as well. I wish I would have signed up and started adding to the wiki years ago, but I am so glad now to be a member of our family. My very best to you my friend. ;) — Ched :  ?  05:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. Keep up the good work ! Best wishes -- Tinu Cherian – 06:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Your RFA

Thank you for your kinds words. I would've replied sooner, but I've been a tad bit busy in real life, and with the RfA itself. Thanks again, --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 11:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of which, you haven't reconsidered this yet, have you? – Quadell ^(talk) 20:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess it have agreed for sometime in August :) -- Tinu Cherian – 22:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

IIJ

Should bwe OK now. Let me know if any more problems. Rich Farmbrough, 11:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC).

Thanks. It should be working now -- Tinu Cherian – 11:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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