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A barnstar for you!

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	For your kindness and encouragement along with the hard work and guidance. Wikipedia should be proud of having you. You are great! VanischenumTalk 21:04, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks --Tito Dutta ✉ 22:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Panipuri

Hi Titodutta, thanks for the Panupuri you gave me. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 08:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Bhagavad Gita (PR)

I have listed the article for peer review here. I think any suggestions you have should be listed there instead of the talk page. Again, no hurry, take care of you backlog first. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 16:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

It takes one hour, if not more, for the reviewers to show up. So don't worry about that. Besides, you need not post messages at my talk page today. Post here, I am watching this. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 16:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

British English check by script

Not bad, eh? Just two catches?--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

He he! Ya! But, what is Indian English? I tried to read Indian English, could not understand anything! Finish that other countries' independence days discussion with next 2–3 days, if possible! --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, that is minor issue. That should not affect any outcome. I could not yet think of any befitting sentence/sentence-complex to accommodate other countries. The suggestion by Vanishchenu is so far most near to the target. let's see. --Dwaipayan (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

All roads lead to Rome– every page I am trying to open I am getting the same message "Problem loading page"– for slow internet^{(Hey, Tito, you are very generous, you are calling it "slow internet"? call it "no internet")} I may not put TB template in your talk! Recently an editor has made some changes in prose style, I also caught few of those and noted in notepad, no need to mention those again, since those are solved. Yet, check prose and grammar of the article. And I'll begin the most boring part of review in no time– checking all the citation, their content and added texts in article! --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:41, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Ya, but, we can't close the review while a discussion is on, since0 "Kho na jayeeee Discussion GA review par! Every discussion is special", or, ummmm, "Guest reviewer is the best reviewer"– it has rhymes in it --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I have requested to close that thread in GA review, since we could not figure out how to incorporate that info in a non-trivial way. Please comment there. This is supported by Wikipedia guidelines, as articles should not be a collection of trivia.--Dwaipayan (talk) 22:02, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Names of notes

Hello Titodutta. Please check out my my last edit in the article about Tagore. --Omnipaedista (talk) 23:49, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

GA1 of Independence Day (India)

Sorry for asking this (silly question). And I am not sure this is incorrect or not. The lead section contains the sentence,

Several books and cinema feature the independence and partition as pivotal events in their narrative

Is it necessary to change cinema ---to-->> cinemas. Regards. Thank you. Vanischenum^Talk 02:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Guest reviewer!

Greetings Tito! My apologies are in order for this delayed reply. As you can see, I did indeed begin to review the Independence Day (India) article, but before I had a chance to finish reading through, I got called away on an unexpected family emergency. Sadly, I just learned that I've lost someone very dear to my heart :(. Though my wiki participation, availability, and concentration may be a bit disrupted over the next few days, I wanted to take a moment to acknowledge your recent messages and thank you for your kind words and proposed ideas. Full detailed replies are in the making, but I wanted to let you know that there may be some delays and periods of silence before I'm able to fully address everything your messages entail. I will start with the completion of my review, and respond to the rest as soon as possible. Have yourself a great day Tito... I'll catch up with you soon. :)  -- WikHead (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied in your talk page and added this thread at the top of the page as "Special talk" (this will not be archived) --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:31, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Substantial improvements in Brij Mohan Kaul

Have made substantial improvements in Brij Mohan Kaul article. Wanted someone to take a look and if possible a quick review. Also added infobox, which I plan to expand (perhaps add an image from somewhere) soon. Perhaps when you are back from your wikibreak :-) .... -Ambar (talk) 12:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Popular culture section

What do you think about it now? I quickly went over several sources, books articles etc. Some creations are repeatedly mentioned. Discussion on relevant films is rare though. Fortunately got one general article on films.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:29, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

which maintenance template issues?--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Removed that source. Also removed the next citation describing celebration in West Bengal. The preceding citation from Monsters and Critics pretty much covers individual states all together, no need to give citation for each state individually.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)r

Already mentioned there.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Mentined that all discussions and concerns are done.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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Lets discuss at one place rather than distributed discussions here and there DBigXray 10:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Final assessment

Please Tito, it is you who have made this review super. I do not have even the confidence to do it. Tito, please. Vanischenu^『m/_Talk』 15:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I have commented on it. Thank you! But it is you who have to do the final assessment and has been left for you. You are great and have reflected the excellence in the review too. Please do the final judgement. Thank you once again for your kindness. Vanischenu^『m/_Talk』 17:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:28, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I have read the email. But, (currently) in my slow internet connection, I don't think I'll able to upload/download a large e-book. I'll try. --Tito Dutta ✉ 16:39, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

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Yes, you deserve it. Vanischenu^『m/_Talk』 17:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Swami Vivekananda

hello! i've found the book i mentioned, so i am going to finishbring the article to a satisfactory state (and that is at least past “stub”ness;)) in a day or two. happy trying to take a wikibreak) --antanana 05:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Image copyright issue

So do you exactly know what is the reason behind the necessity of US tags? Is it because the servers are located in US? There are hundreds of PD-India images in the Commons. This requirement would be disastrous.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes I noted the original red fort image was uploaded by a Commons admin, from some collection of photos of Gandhi. I will try to look at that URAA-India tag and similar ones. Things are not only complicated, they have big loopholes :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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The consensus agreed to broaden the scope from one thing to multiple things. So I have requested an individual reassessment on Barack Obama on Twitter. --George Ho (talk) 23:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you --Tito Dutta ✉ 14:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Current achhe?

Load-shedding? Or, do you have power?--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Sob chhuti?--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, Harvnb looks clean and nice (especially the Citation section). Also, it is one of the established styles in scholarly articles. It look more professional perhaps.

Well, Harvnb will lead to the full citation of books in the "Reference" section. There will be isbn of books used there. From isbn, google book search can be done. Moreover, if you have the google book url of the specific page, that can also be incorporated as usual in cite book or citation templates. In case of directly using cite book in the text, the reader has to click just once to get the full book description. In Harvnb, reader has to do two clicks to reach the full book information. There is no other difference indeed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Scientific American: Why Is Everyone on the Internet So Angry?

Recently (on 25 July 2012) an article has been published in Scientific American which deals with the question– "Why is everyone on the internet so angry and rude?" Their study shows– there might be lots of factors behind a person's rude behaviour– 1) Virtual anonymity and thus lack of accountability 2) Physical distance 3) medium of writing 4) personal life (mental and physical problems). There are lots of interesting moments in this article. Here is the link. --Tito Dutta ✉ 17:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

New Message

You have one message at the peer review page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I have nominated the article. Hopefully, some reviewer will pick it up in time. Its unfortunate that you and Redtigerxyz can't review the article. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

One message at my talk page. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Cinosaur has decided to take up the GAR for the Bhagavad Gita article here. Add the page to your watchlist. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 10:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Aryabhata's Calculation of Pi

On 22 April, this year, I asked a question in another user's talk page regarding Aryabhata's calculation of Pi. The questions I asked there

Another answer I have been searching is the way Aryabhata calculated Pi. Aryabhata used this string: (see details in this section of Aryabhata article)

Add four to 100, multiply by eight, and then add 62,000. By this rule the circumference of a circle with a diameter of 20,000 can be approached ((4 + 100) × 8 + 62000)/20000 = 62832/20000 = 3.1416

But the thing I have not understood in that Wikipedia article (I am not a contributor there, just a reader), from where Aryabhata got the numbers 4, 100, 8, 62000, 20000? When we say Pi=22/7, we can understand if circumference is 22 unit then diameter will be 7 unit, but, what are these 4, 100, 8, 62000, 20000? Any idea?

I did not get any reply for next few days and I unwatched the page or something similar happened that's why I completely missed the post of Rich there. Just now, after 4 months, when I was going to ask another Chemistry specialist user that question, I found the reply of Rich of 3 May

I am inclined to think that the sum is not mathematical. Clearly the 20,000 diameter is a 10,000 radius, so imagining we don't have decimal points, the natural way to express a truth about the circle relating to 2π is to look at bigger circles

• Radius 1 circumference 6
• Radius 10 circumference 63
• Radius 100 circumference 628
• Radius 1000 circumference 6283
• Radius 10000 circumference 62832

The two questions left are why 62832 is constructed that way - could it be a mnemonic? Or possibly an obscuring device? and how did he calculate the figure? At this point I am overwhelmed by my ignorance, but I think the 20,000 at least is explained.

I have not replied in that user's page, because I don't want to disturb him (email notifications, you know). I think, we can start again from here! --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Excellent work Rich Farmbrough! The most amazing part is the mathematical genius Aryabhata published this work with many other works at the age of 23 (damn, almost 2 years younger than me) and that's also in 5 century CE. And this was not only his only notable works, he also did lots of good works in the field of Trigonometry, Astronomy, Algebra etc. So, I am little bit hesitant to accept that that 23 years old young man's sum was not mathematical. Another thing we can tell for sure, he did not follow the manual measurement process (using a tape, measure diameter and circumference of a circle shape and then find out ratio), his calculation was something different! --Tito Dutta ✉ 19:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

How do you know he didn't measure it using a tape? Whatever were the units Indian mathematicians used in those days, I am sure they had a way of measurement, maybe a ruler or some kind. Without a measurement device the units could not be applied to real life and would be pointless. The above explanation looks satisfactory, his choice of a large number was determined by a lack of decimals. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 20:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

The figures.. the figures... the figures "4, 100, 8, 62000, 20000" even we consider 10000 as radius, as Rich has told it is very difficult to find and experiment with a circular object with 10000 unit (any unit) radius.--Tito Dutta ✉ 20:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

A very rough method for finding the value of pi: We can draw concentric circles in sand using a nail as the center and thread of a constant length as the radius. Then we draw chords around the circumference with our least count (of the ruler, say 1 cm) as the length, to make a polygon of the approximate perimeter as the circle. Since, the number of chords in larger circles would grow larger, measurement of their circumference would get more accurate. Then we review our calculations and see what our calculations of pi our tending to. We keep getting more and more accurate values of pi in larger circles, though we'll never get the exact value because a circle has infinite sides.

As for the numbers, you have to remember that our system of decimal notation wasn't invented then. So 62382 wasn't described as 60 1000's, 23 hundreds etc., but Aryabhatta's description was quite close. He does say 62000 + some formula. It's just a mnemonic or a way of describing a number, nothing more. CorrectKnowledge (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I am not sure if decimal notation was invented at that time, but, Aryabhata at the same time invented "zero"! More importantly, few questions remain–

• Why Aryabhata constructed 62832 in that way?
• What is the relation between a circle and these mathematical operations (4 + 100) × 8 + 62000)/20000?

Oh Socrates– I know that I know nothing--Tito Dutta ✉ 21:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Great thinking Tito! Your curiousness for finding the truth should be appreciated. I attempted, and failed to find any explanation on how he made it up. Books describe what to do with it but not how he found it! Perhaps putting this question at the mathematics reference desk may bring help. ···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 14:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I discovered two interesting things, firstly he used poetry for a table of sines, so maybe the idea that it was a mnemonic device to express the number thus has some basis - you might need knowledge of the language to say whether

caturadhikam śatamaṣṭaguṇam dvāṣaṣṭistathā sahasrāṇām

ayutadvayaviṣkambhasyāsanno vṛttapariṇāhaḥ.

is poetic. Secondly a suggestion that an inscribed 256-agon might have been used to calculate the figure. It should be a few minuteswork to confirm that there is enough accuracy in a 256-agon. Rich Farmbrough, 01:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC).

Yes, it is poetic! At that time writing in verse was common practice. And almost nothing was written in prose. If we see history of English language prose came much after verse/poetry (Beowulf, Anglo-Saxon. Normal Conquest etc etc– there was not any prose literature) Anyway, back to topic–

caturadhikam śata → 4 more than 100 (Catu(h) = 4, Sata = 100 adhikam = more)

aṣṭaguṇam → Multiply by eight (asta = eight, gunam = multiply)

dvāṣaṣṭistathā sahasrāṇām → 62,000

ayutadvayaviṣkambhasyāsanno → Divide by 20000

vṛttapariṇāhaḥ → Vritta means circle, but I don't know what does pariṇāhaḥ mean! Circumference is paridhi in Sanskrit, might be related to that! --Tito Dutta ✉ 02:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

vagartham.blogspot gives some meanings (though unreliable). I found only one book when tried to search the word parinaha and Aryabhata together [1] which says circumference = parniha. Also so many books says parinah = circumference when tried like that. Thanks to the completeness of our Wikt and WP on Sanskrit, they didn't help me. But another wiki - rigpawiki has one. ···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 05:56, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Excellent find! But, why small? Please change font size! I'll try to contact that author to learn the sources he used, it might be helpful for the article too! --Tito Dutta ✉ 06:02, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

• Tito, thank you for your hint to look at Amartya Sen, his arrow’s paradox etc. As to Aryabhata's way of finding the value of Pi that is much more accurate than 22/7, for me it seems the approach might have been by iteration, as e.g. you easily can get any square root by iteration, in just few steps.

  And, maybe in lack of the math. decimal point, he had to find a large number that is accurate enough to give an approximation that, by dividing it by the multiple (the thousandfold or the thousandfold) of a simple digit (the "2" in his case) will give some value that was correct "enough". And I suppose he might have started with some rough value, in his case it eventually could have been at first (3?)*(100+4) (=312), and he just might have tried then to get some suitable approach by varying this value with a special factor.

  At first (?) by changing my "3" to some other digit ... finally it was the "8" etc. etc.

  I will be trying to see if there is some possible way for me to retrace his approach. Thank you and kind regards, Gerhardvalentin (talk) 17:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Manusmriti

I corrected WP.Lead on the page and intend to write more giving references. Please check.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Lead looks much better now! :) --Tito Dutta ✉ 15:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

There are more additions. I hope they are not removed. Irrelevent and wrong matter citing wrong references needs removal.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Page on Manusmriti is cleansed a bit now, please have a look. There is no page on the Vedic state of 'Brahmavarta' on Wikipedia. I think a new page can clear many confusions on Vedic period literature. Please advise how to go about it.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 12:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC) Page on 'Manusmriti' is complete now. Tags need to be removed. Please advise about a page on 'Brahmavarta'.117.198.137.70 (talk) 17:03, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

On Vivekananda

When exactly he took the name Vivekananda? Jut prior to setting sail for the US? In that case, we have to decide what to call him during his voyage of India. As of now, the article uses "Swami", "the Swami", "Vivekananda' etc. Prior to his taking the sanyas, it is ok to call him Narendra. Also, in this phase (early years, years with Ramakrishna etc), we have to decide on one thing -- either Narendra or Narendranath. I thing Narendra was the more often used name, and we should stick to that (unless using some quotes describing him as Narendranath). Even during his tour of India, we my decide to call him Narendra and Swami (I do not know about the usability of the name Vivekananda in this phase).

In the India travel section, please add month and year in a few more instances (not all, but just a few). The Western India travel section is somewhat haphazard. It says he travelled to some cities in Maharashtra. But the very next sentence says about his stay in Kathiawad. Was Kathiawad before Pune. Bombay etc? Try to find out the the time of his stay in Kathiawad, as he came to know about the Chicago conference while staying there.

I am doing some random copyediting now, without looking at the sources. In this way, we may be able to get rid of some "close paraphrasing" automatically. After this is done, you may want to double-check (comparing with the sources) whether any striking close paraphrasing exist --Dwaipayan (talk) 02:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Ajit Singh of Khetri used the name "Vivekananda" first (around 1892–1893). Generally he used to be referred as either Naren or Narendra Nath. (eta ek jwala Narendranath na Narendra Nath kichhutei bujhte pari na). Ek ek jaygay ek ek rokom. Onar baba nath jure likhten "Vishwanath", chhele likhten nath chhere "Narendra Nath" (ei khane bistarito dekha jabe: Commons:Swami_Vivekananda#Miscellaneous_images.

Amar mone hoy 1887 February r porei (mane uni jokhon Sanyas nilen aar ki, tokhon thekei Vivekananda kore deowa bhalo.

I'll try to improve his Bharat Bhraman section! --Tito Dutta ✉ 03:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

In Wikipedia MoS, we usually use "nath" together, such as "Rabindranath". Buth that is not a rule really. If he used "Narendra Nath", we can use Narendra. Narendra is short, easy to read, than Narendranath. Whatever we use, we have to use it consistently in the article. Try to find out when was he christened Vivekananda; if that is early in his India voyage, we can mention that, and then refer to him as Vivekananda for rest of the article; that would be a convenient solution. However, reading the present form of the article, it seemed to me that the name Vivekananda might have been started just before the West tour. --Dwaipayan (talk) 03:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The article stands in pretty good shape. The technical details outlined above should be addressed. And then, go through suspicious sentences (especially in the sections Parliament of Religion, From Colombo to Almora, the Last Years) for close paraphrasing, comparing with the source. Also provide citation for "citation needed" tags. Then it will be a GA.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

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re paoli dam, me etc, from Manoj Pandey "anarchocommunist" [yes I am that]: =

The Paoli Dam page looks balanced now [Thu 2 aug 2235 british summer time (BST) ]. If you played a part, thanks.

Well I so happens that I too well connected with people in the West Bengal film scene, specially the arthouse scene) which:

1. I am both enotionallly and financially connnected with;

2. of which Ms Paoli Dam is very much a part of; (the arthouse West Bengal film scene)

3. I've met her but I can't say I know her (she is very unlikely to remember my name) because I am a very private person and in her own way so is she. It would be easy for me to contact her face-to-face, but I am simply not the kind of person who contacts people withgout sufficient reason.

It is precisely because I am a vey private person, and so is Ms Dam (notwithstanding the fact that she is a performing artist of cinema, and so has to/ has chosen to do promos and interviews etc), that I have intervened in the issue just the amount I thought was appropriate. Now it depends of what she thinks of the inchoate entity called wikipedia. I refuse to push wikipedia to Paoli, or vice versa.

I've been editing wikipedia since 2001 (search the internet (not onl;y www) for the ref to thr 'vaskar nandi' article in 'economic and polical weekly) is is probbly not there in the 11 sept 2001 aricle in wikipedia any more; but I provide that reference to the EPW Vaskar Nandy article. And lots of search engines, web-zines, and print magazines put it on record as an example of the *wikipedia* statement on 11 sept 2001 events. Well that was my tenth or so wiki-edit (the Vaskar Nandi ref re 7/11/2001 yank-style date) But I was an anonymous editor all those 11 years.

Because of a character-assassination-revert-war re Ms paoli dam who I have huge respect for (my daughter was her junior in the same college, sort of, etc), I felt I needed to be a registered editor. However, methinks most of my future edits will *also* be anonymous unless I see that the issue is importatant to me *and* I can help by intervening as a registered user *more* than I can as an anonymous editor.

So, no newbie me! nor a wiki-addict.

hanks for reading, and regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manojpandeyanarchocommunist (talk Manojpandeyanarchocommunist (talk) 22:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, your edit clearly shows your Wikipedia experiences, no more details needed. Secondly, it does not matter in Wikipedia whether you know the subject, or you are subject's friend/relative or you are the subject yourself. Finally it is your edit which matters. Thirdly, I did not revert those edits. --Tito Dutta ✉ 00:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to crush possiblities of misunderstandings - I never thought or suggested *you* were reverting to the sick moral-police version. 00:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC) Manojpandeyanarchocommunist (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Chatrak

While reading the above post, I realised there was no article on Chatrak yet!!! So, created one, Mushrooms (film). If we can expand it. it might be DYK material.--Dwaipayan (talk) 02:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

To respect your request, I have made some changes, but, since some portions of this film badly clash with my personal belief and ideology, I don't think I'll feel comfortable to edit in this article. The article should be named Chatrak (film), per film poster and film certificate. In Telegraph there are some good content on it! --Tito Dutta ✉ 03:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you already see the movie? It was not officially released yet, although was screened in several festivals. The plot sounds very unusual.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcome

On behalf of the CVU academy, myself, and Theopolisme, (Co-coordinators), we welcome you to training budding anti-vandals. It is reccomended that you watchlist: Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Status, Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Enroll, our main talk page, and our questions page. Also, make sure you readWikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Instruction_methods. Cheers, Dan653 (talk) 21:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied in your talk! --Tito Dutta ✉ 21:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to extend the welcome - I've seen you around quite a bit, and it's fantastic that you've joined us! Can't wait to see/hear more of you. Thanks! :) Theopolisme _TALK 03:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, Titodutta. You have new messages at Theopolisme's talk page.
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• • Teehee** Theopolisme _TALK 04:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	We need more diligent people like you. Keep it up. Mrt3366 (Talk?) 08:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Five

Stop by for a tasty glass of wiki-iced tea at the Teahouse, today!

Hi! Welcome to the fifth edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

• Guest activity increased in July. Questions are up from an average of 36 per week in June to 43 per week in July, and guest profile creation has also increased. This is likely a result of the automatic invite experiments we started near the end of month, which seeks to lessen the burden on hosts and other volunteers who manually invite editors. During the last week of July, questions doubled in the Teahouse! (But don't let that deter you from inviting editors to the Teahouse, please, there are still lots of new editors who haven't found Teahouse yet.)
• More Teahouse hosts than ever. We had 12 new hosts sign up to participate at the Teahouse! We now have 35 hosts volunteering at the Teahouse. Feel free to stop by and see them all here.
• Phase two update: Host sprint. In August, the Teahouse team plans to improve the host experience by developing a simpler new-host creation process, a better way of surfacing active hosts, and a host lounge renovation. Take a look at the plan and weigh in here.
• New Teahouse guest barnstar is awarded to first recipient: Charlie Inks. Using the Teahouse barnstar designed by Heatherawalls, hosts hajatvrc and Ryan Vesey created the new Teahouse Guest Barnstar. The first recipient is Charlie Inks, for her boldness in asking questions at the Teahouse. Check out the award in action here.
• Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania! The Teahouse was a hot topic at Wikimania this past month, where editor retention and interface design was heavily discussed. Sarah and Jonathan presented the Teahouse during the Wikimedia Fellowships panel. Slides can be viewed here. A lunch was also held at Wikimania for Teahouse hosts.

As always, thanks for supporting the Teahouse project! Stop by and visit us today!

You are receiving The Tea Leaf after expressing interest or participating in the Teahouse! To remove yourself from receiving future newsletters, please remove your username here. Sarah (talk) 08:38, 4 August 2012 (UTC)