Tonyrex

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:) Thank you kindly for the welcome. (And the nice low-pressure opportunity to do my first indent and signature.) Tonyrex (talk) 11:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation

In this edit, you wrote "Dewikilinked Ophelia. (It was going to a disambiguation page.)" If a link goes to a disambiguation page doesn't mean that it should get removed. The correct way to handle this is to replace the link with the disambiguated link (such as here). Cheers! — Sebastian 18:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Hiya! Thanks for your note. With works of art (paintings, albums, sculpture, songs, novels, etc) I've been inclined to think that a linked title should go to a page (or section of a page) on the work of art itself if such a page is available, rather than a page (or section of a page) about the possible subject of the work of art. (The concern there is about avoiding over-linking, and/or avoiding possibly introducing false precision.) Haven't been able to find a firmish guideline or policy on the issue of linking titles of works of art on the relevant Wikiproject pages though. Do you have a link to a relevant policy/guideline/project-suggestion/discussion on the topic in the context of the visual arts, Sebastian? (That would be tremendously helpful.) Tonyrex (talk) 21:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't think there is such a guideline - wanna write one? ;-) Seriously, though, I'm not proposing that we should have one. What I go by is a simple rule that works well in many walks of life: I'm trying to put myself into others' shoes. In this case, for example, I have two personas in mind: Ethan, a high school student, who is just a simple reader on Wikipedia who for some reason stumbled on that page (maybe because he saw the painting and thought the girl looks cute). Now, it's easy to imagine that he would like to find out more about the topic of the picture. That is rather unlikely in the case of "Spring", since everybody knows what "spring" is. But how many people would know more about her than that she was some character by Shakespeare? The other persona is Kathrin, an arts student who enjoys editing Wikipedia. When she sees the link, she wants to compare it with other depictions of Ophelia, and she takes the occasion to check out the article and improve it. That, too, is less likely with "spring". That's why I think a link to Ophelia is good, but I wouldn't encourage one to Spring. — Sebastian 22:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: About overlinking: The way I see it, it is mostly an issue in other situations: When there are really lots of them (as in List of energy abbreviations, where I'm currently arguing for removing them) or in articles like "door", with a picture of a door saying "[[Bedroom]] door in a house in [[Littletown]], [[Mississippi]], [[USA]]". (I'm making this one up now, but I'm sure you've seen such articles too.) — Sebastian

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