Tremspeed
Fender Prosonic looks great! I'd like to nominate it to appear on the Front Page as an example of an exemplary new article. First, though: could you please cite the sources you used for all that information? Thanks, Melchoir 06:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Welcome
editWelcome, glad to have you here. But please do sign your posts on talk pages, by typing ~~~~ - Jmabel | Talk 06:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Guitarists Newsletter - Issue I - August 2006
editThe August 2006 issue of the WikiProject Guitarists newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Aguerriero (talk) 19:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Very nice job... you know what you're writing about. Thanks for making that a much better article, and good luck with your future ZVex writings. --Hector 04:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Guitarists Newsletter - Issue II - October 2006
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Z.Vex
editNo problem, thanks for adding those! I made a thread about the article on the zvex forums and all Zack said was "groan."
I'm getting a Fuzz Factory Vexter for Christmas, too! NIRVANA2764 12:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Guitarists newsletter
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Hey everyone! It's been quite a while since the last newsletter went out but it's time to tune up those guitars, set the amps to 11, and rock out a bit. Or for us old guys, put on the fingerpicks and set the amp to 3. A lot of people have been laboring away at guitar articles and their efforts are to be applauded. If you haven't edited in a while, why not pick an article from Category:Stub-Class guitarist articles and expand it? Or better yet, pick one from the article requests and create it. More tasks can be found on the main project page in the WikiProject Guitarists open tasks box. I went through the member list and moved anyone who hasn't edited a guitar article in two months to the inactive section. If you're getting this newsletter, it means you are still in the active list. See you around --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 21:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Fender Wikiproject Proposal
editHi, I have proposed a Wikiproject for Fender related articles. If you are interested, please add you name here. Izzy007 Talk 19:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Removing Sleazy's photo?
editSo, what exactly made you decide to remove the photo of Sleazy (Peter Christopherson)? I added it to the page after asking him for a photo to add, and having him send that one, which he also has on his MySpace page. Since I have permission from the man himself, don't you think you're overstepping? And as for the sampler debate, that's worth keeping as a point of history, as most books and Web pages that talk about samplers bring up the claim. SleZ himself doesn't claim to have "invented sampling" but his particular piece of gear was unique at the time, and is worthy of being mentioned, since while it might or might not be "fact", it is and always will be part of the history of the development of samplers.
I'll write Peter and find out what LPs he worked on and not. I think you killed off a couple he did work on - your claim he "joined Hipgnosis" is true and all, but ever think he might have worked with/for them both before and after he was "officially" part of the group? Were you ever a member of Hipgnosis? Have you asked SleZ what LP covers he worked on and not? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or snarky, this are honest questions, sorry if they seem blunt, just not trying to waste too much time on this silliness.
Unless you're actually Peter, which I kinda doubt with all the guitar interests, or Stephen Thrower or one of his alter-egos, well, hacking out chunks of stuff about his history seems rather rude, unnecessary, and unfair. Then again, I dunno why I care, this is just Wikipedia, which grows more and more useless as the "fact nazis" take it over.
Awaiting word from SleaZ.
editWrote to Peter and will put back albums covers if he claims he worked on them, as he did work for Hipgnosis before "joining them" as an independent contractor. Do you know Peter personally?
Added back the sampler info which is a paraphrase of Peter's own writeup. Whether or not it was digital is moot, as a sampler is something that plays samples, and that does not require "digital", many musicians and audio engineers consider a Mellotron a sampler, for example, and that played analogue tapes. The fact is that Peter's use of his hand-made "sampler" in TG was cutting edge and one of the many things that made them a historically important band, and Peter himself, who is quite modest, dislikes that people claim the Fairlight (of which he owns several) was "the first sampler". What makes you think sampling has to be digital domain only? Sorry again if these questions seem blunt or snarky, just in a hurry but they are sincere and would be interested in your answers, and if they're grounded in facts or direct info from Peter vs. just your own personal opinion? Cheers, Wink
Howdy
editThanks for your kind response about the Peter Christopherson. Good to know the photo deletion was accidental, and it's been put back up. I should mention those of us who call him "SleaZ" (note cap "Z", pronounced "zee", get it, yeah, kinda dumb) do so because that's actually what he prefers to be called by his friends and how he signs his email and letters when they're personal vs. public. So sorry it bugs you, but we've just gotten in the habit from our communications w/him, since he dislikes "Peter" and only uses it for public work, and "Sleazy" he considers his "stage name" for TG, etc.
Re: your comments about Samplers is interesting. I will defer to your point since we're in Wikipedia-space here - but as much as the Wikipedia entry specifically talks about "digital" being integral to sampling, none of the books I've read or own, and that's probably half-dozen, all start out with an intro or opening chapter on sampling and do consider the Mellotron and other analog tape-based machines as the first samplers, with the idea being that if you aren't producing the original sound but a reproduction of it, and that the concepts are the same in almost all the basic ways, the only difference being the storage medium. My Morpheus creates a violin sound by looping a digital copy of the "sampled" sound of a real violin: a Mellotron does the same by playing a tape loop of that sound. Since the storage medium is really the only difference, the books I've read have all considered Mellotrons the original "sampler" and since SleaZ's (Peter's, sorry) home-made one predates the Fairlight and mass-produced Mellotrons, he has been trying to address the subject and get the facts out about it - you can read his take on things on his MySpace page blog, and he doesn't try to claim to have had the first "sampler" - he just explains what the device was and how it was used in TG. If you're a TG fan, you should read it, you'll find it interesting I think! Hmmm, the link is missing, will ask him about it.
Most of what I'm trying to add to the page I'm running by Peter for confirmation - your assumption about his tenure with Hipgnosis is understandable, but yes, despite his young age, he was working in his teens and was recognized for his skills, which is why he was made a partner in Hipgnosis when he was old enough to be part of the Ltd. company.
That's all I can remember from your post, will write more if I have time, but good to know you're a reasonable fellow and we're just both interested in having a decent entry. With samplers, as said I'll defer to "digital only" if that's what Wikipedia says, but as I've mentioned, none of the books I've read don't credit the Mellotron - playing back a recording, esp. in a loop, is how they define "sampling", and the medium - analog or digital, tape or floppies or hard drives or ROM cards, etc. the books consider very minor. Cheers, Wink WinkJunior 22:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Left an album entry he wasn't involved in...
editso that someone who is an expert in how Wikipedia is supposed to work could deal with it the "correct way", whatever that is, rather than my flailing around, doing things wrong and annoying people. I just decided to follow Peter's suggestion and cut-n-paste his comments, verbatim, into the entry, and let them that knows who to write Wikipedia entries up to "standards" take care of it. His idea, I thought it was good. So you can still think I'm a moron, but there is indeed reasoning behind it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinkJunior (talk • contribs) 05:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Guitarists newsletter
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Hello all! Time for the next installment of the WikiProject Guitarists newsletter. I recently went through and trimmed the member list again to remove inactive participants. I haven't been too active recently because I'm finishing a Master's degree but I'll have some more free time coming up. I will probably spend some time cleaning up equipment articles since many of them read like adverts or contain no useful information. We have a lot of great people working on the project, including professional guitarists and even luthiers. We have the potential to write a lot of great articles. If you are looking for something to do, see the open tasks on the main project page or see the column to the right for specific suggestions. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 23:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Long-Delayed Replies
editSorry if this is the wrong place to reply to things you wrote in my User:WinkJunior section. If there is a better place, can you please put a reference to it at the top of this page for morons like myself.
Re: Samplers & Peter "Sleazy" Christopherson - I don't want to get into a big debate about it. If "samplers" have been decided they must be digital, then I guess his doesn't count. I just know it's a sticking point with him. Re: Mellotrons and Chamberlains, yes, I am very experienced with them, I owned a Mellotron and have serviced them over the years - I'm sorry, its' a tape loop. Any strip of tape that plays and then repeats - well, just because it wasn't spliced together but just refeeds into the system - I guess I'm just saying you seem to be really trying to push the definition as something specific, whereas to me, it's "tape" and it "loops" hence it's a "tape loop". All that said, you have plenty of reasons. I was just trying to get info in there about Peter that was accurate, but he himself has decided that Wikipedia means nothing to him, that misinformation, rumors, hearsay and incorrect info will always be there, so he stopped caring and no longer feels I need to try to make the page accurate. He would rather it didn't exist at all, but he knows as soon as it was removed, it would come back as I explained.
Re: Why would I leave an album credit but quote Peter verbatim himself who told me he wasn't involved? Because at at this point, folks like yourself and others have made me scared to make any changes to Wikipedia. So I have taken the tack of of just putting in the info I know is true, and leaving it to others, like yourself, to decide to remove things, etc. It seems like every time I try to add, change, remove, etc. anything on Wikipedia, someone bites my head off, so now I've given up altogether.
Re: other stuff you posted - you win. You're right. Always. I'm no longer attempting to help improve Wikipedia, esp. since it seems like anything I do gets removed or reverted or catches me shit. So I guess I just wanted to say "Go ahead, it's all yours" because I've given up, and so I defer to your expertise. I do not mean this sarcastically or as an insult, but rather as an admission that I obviously cannot contribute in a positive way, so I want you to be sure that I will not interfere and that I appreciate the time and effort you've taken.
Again, if this is not the right place to reply, please do put a note at the top of the page and point to where one should , again, for people like myself who obviously don't qualify to contribute to Wikipedia (seriously.) Peace and thanks again for all your time and effort.
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