Trout459

April 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles, as you did to Paint and lacquer distributors. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Ros0709 (talk) 13:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

This is meant to be a historical representation of a company that no longer exists. Trout459 (talk) 13:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)Trout459

I would advise renaming the article (see the move tab at the head of the page) so that it is clearly about the company. Ros0709 (talk) 13:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I have renamed it for you, reinstated the speedy tag you removed (you are not allowed to do that), plus added a hangon tag and directed attention to this page. If the company no longer exists the article will probably not be deleted on the basis of being spam, but the article does not make any assertion that the company is notable per the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies). If this is not done the article will still likely be deleted. Ros0709 (talk) 14:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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Spam in Paint And Lacquer Distributors (company)

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Your question on the Help Desk

Hi Trout459,

as someone suggested, I've reviewed your deleted article. First off, I think the accusations of "spam" were a little dramatic, so i hope you didn't take that personally. However, I'm fairly sure that no matter how much you work on it, it ultimately wouldn't meet Wikipedia's Notability policy. (better link for your case: [1]). Please read that, and I think you'll see why. This is a common error; many people think Wikipedia accepts articles about everything, but there are actually many policies for inclusion. If, after reading that policy, you'd like to address the company's notability, I can provide you with what you wrote so far in a workspace: User:Trout459/Sandbox. But I recommend you consider first whether this would just be postponing the inevitable; I'd hate to see you spend more time only to have it deleted again.

Sorry for the rocky start. Please take a look at some of the useful links below, and maybe that will help make your next article less of a hassle for you. --barneca (talk) 00:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome!

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Your unpleasantly brusque introduction to Wikipedia

I'm sorry it's been such a rocky start for you here. Part of the problem in Wikipedia culture is that we are so constantly inundated with people whose sole purpose is to market their company or client, that we have become oversensitized to what we suspect is just another spammer. You got bopped that way, and I'm sorry. I can understand your desire to memorialize a company that was important in many people's lives; but that's not the kind of thing we do here. On a planetary scale, that company wasn't very notable, and the deletion decision reflects that.

I hope this doesn't put you off Wikipedia entirely; we're trying to do some good work here, and can always use another willing hand. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)