Turnsaved

September 2008

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Regarding Air Traffic

Hi Turnsaved :) firstly, I would like to thank you for all the work you have been doing to the above article. Over the past 2/3 years there has only ever been like 2, 3 users who have been serious about working on the Air Traffic wiki, and its nice to have some more :)

I just wanted to point out the recent addition of the "Live Appearances" section. I've been looking into this elsewhere, and, me and a few other users feel that it shouldn't be written in quite this way, as you'll see here. First of all, the band's tours shouldn't really all be included, as none of the tours actually have any real notablity. From looking at the information you're adding though, there is some good quality stuff there, so i think it should be included in the main bulk of the article.

I'm going to try and do that over the next couple of days. I have an obsession with sourcing information as well, so i'll look into that also. If you could help, that'd be amazing.

Thanks for all your help! --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 22:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ha! Its nice to see so much vigour from someone new. Don't worry about the talk page thing, everything was fine, all you have to do is sign your posts by typing "--~~~~" after every post and people will love you! oh and post at the bottom of a page so that its in order. You posted at the top of mine :P Basically look out for other people doing cool stuff, copy it, and claim it as your own!

I look forward to more edits from you. The above bot is a bit stupid, i can see why someone would add a myspace page to the "Official Website" section, but they have a bit of a thing against that. Oh well. Keep up the good work!

--^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 23:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I would love to help you, but, i don't know if this would pass. See, wikipedia articles have to be deemed notable, which you'll see on Wikipedia:Notability. But don't bother reading that, cos its like trying to read the bible. Anyway. Music has its own notability, which you'll see at WP:MUSIC. Under "Criteria for musicians and ensembles", there are a few pointers which an artist/musician music meet before an article can be acceptable.

If you think that any of these guys articles would be more than just "Such and such is a guitarist in Air Traffic", then check it against WP:MUSIC, and then be bold and go ahead! --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 23:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Air Traffic

I've removed the live section that you added to the article as its not really supposed to be there. Wikipedia goes against having just a list of dates and gigs because its not very constructive to the article (see proseline). If you make the section in a sandbox somewhere this means we can construct it there before adding it into the article. Cheers. --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 15:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the section you wrote is significant, hence why i have said above that we should constructit elsewhere before adding it into the article. The section itself is mostly just a cross between a list of live appearances, and information which has already been said in the rest of the article. The early live appearances is significant, but they are not written in the proper MOS form. As well as this, I looked into using lists of dates in an article, and a number of editors stated that this is not the correct way to write it.
You say that the information is well referenced, yet there are no references on the page, not even Wikilinks. The section needs to be better formatted, made notable and verifiable with reliable sources before it is added back in. As i said to you back when we discussed this before, I think the information is good it just needs to be added into the article in the correct way. --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 10:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)