TurtleTurtle

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User page in LDS category

Hi, I notice your user page is in Category:Latter Day Saints; I assume this in error, as that's an 'article space' category. Can I suggest you might wish to place yourself in Category:Christian Wikipedians (or in a not-yet-existant Category:Latter Day Saint Wikipedians), which is in the 'wikipedians' category subtree? Thanks. Alai 00:57, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I just came over to say the same thing as Alai. I'll be bold and do it myself. Cheers, -Willmcw 19:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

PS: I've created a Category:Latter Day Saint Wikipedians. Congratulations, you're the first editor in the category. I removed the Multiethnic issues category, but I couldn't find anything comparable. Why don't you take a look at Wikipedia:Wikipedians and see if anything there seems appropriate. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! Cheers, -Willmcw 19:27, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Haha, go ahead, my mistake. Apologies.

List of literary movements

As you may know, the page you started as Literary movements is now at this list, after surviving a vote for deletion. I'm interested in expanding the article, and I've made a list of suggestions at its talk page. If you're interested, I'd appreciate your input. Chick Bowen 23:55, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Mention

Cool, thx. - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 22:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Lacticacid.JPG

I ran across this image today, and found that it had no source. As the original uploader, would you mind adding the appropriate image template to it when you get a chance? If you don't, it will end up being deleted within a week. Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 07:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

email

Thank you for your polite email. In the name of WP:Civility, I shall refrain from posting it here. However, suffice it to say, "No thank you." --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 23:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

• Your father emailed Kiss my Ass, dick face to me? Good to know. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Alright, I finaly realized I can edit my user page. It's nice to know that Jpgordon's Orwellian attampts at censorship are incomplete.

To begin with, you were a complete child about this. The email I sent you included much more than the explanation that my dad had sent you the email. My dad in fact did send you that email. Perhaps you're upset that I never said that what my dad thought was untrue, well, I don't I do think what my dad said is unnecessary, however, because it was unrelated to the subject of why it was improper for you to ban me. Likewise, all your "reasons" for banning me are unrelated to the actual reason I was banned.

Basically, the only two reasons you have given, is that you thought the facts we included in the encyclopedia article on kwanzaa counted as vandalism. This is entirely untrue, the information we added was factual, and if you had beef with it you should have mention it on the talk page. Your impulse, when facts were presented that made you unhappy, was simply to ban us to prevent us from further editing. An Orwellian response if their ever was one, and definitely not in the spirit of Wikipedia. I suggest that you have an ideological axe to grind and are unwilling to see information that spoils your tender world view. I suggest that, in the future, you keep you censorship tendencies to a minimium.

That was what the bulk of the email I sent you contained, it would be more mature of you to have mentioned that.

Burned. --~ Jared ~ 22:20, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

• When people send obscene email to me, I don't bother checking to see if the rest of it has any actual content; why bother? --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 04:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Also -- I didn't "ban" you, or anyone. It's not within my authority to do that. It is entirely within my authority to block editors for 3RR violations, and I did block User:66.141.170.190 for 24 hours after having earlier warned him. The logs show no blocks against User:TurtleTurtle ever. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:11, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

What are the POV violations you are concerned about in Kwanzaa? It seems a pretty bland /inoffensive article to me, though I know the "criticims" section seems to have been a running issue. -Justforasecond 01:55, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you asked. You seem to be confused about what exactly makes an article favor a certain point of view. I agree that the article is bland, very bland, and inoffensive as well. That does not make it neutral. I've described the article before as sounding like a promotional pamphlet for kwanzaa. Now, promotional pamphlets are in all but extreme cases, inoffensive, they generally lose their persuasive power if they are offensive. People who produce them would like to think otherwise, but promotional pamhplets are also bland. It would be a fallacy, however, to think that promotional pamphlets aren't biased. They obviously present the facts in a slanted, non-neutral manner. This is true of the kwanzaa article.

People insist that facts about it's creator should not be included and have nothing to do with kwanzaa. This, plainly, is bullshit. Anybody who has taken high school English courses will remember learning about the background of the author of a work they are studying. Understanding the views of the author, the society he lived in, and a number of other things are important to help interpret his or her work. The same is true of the creator of kwanzaa. The creatore of kwanzaa, however, is a rather controversial figure (to say the least). Certain people would prefer for this not to be known, because it sheds too much of a negative light on their beloved holiday. Perhaps it does, but the information is factual and necessary, and these people need to learn to live with some of the nastier facts about their holiday and live with it. --~ Jared ~ 02:06, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Conduct

Do not continue with your poor conduct on the article discussion page. If you wish to accuse me of any number of things, you are welcome to do so on this talk page, and this talk page only. Barring that, you may, if you feel you have been wronged, take it to arbitration. Those are the only options available--Tznkai 05:15, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Kinara.jpg

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Image Tagging Image:Jared01.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Jared01.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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File:Jared01.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Jared01.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Kelly ^hi! 19:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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