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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dave Opstad (January 18)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dave Opstad (January 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rusalkii was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Rusalkii (talk) 01:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dave Opstad (February 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Dave Opstad (May 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kaleeb18 was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 02:15, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your review @Kaleeb18, I am wondering if you could help me understand why this article has not enough references in compare to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Collins_(Unicode)? They are both the creators of unicode. Without the development of the unicode no wikipedia would exist.

Thank you very much,

Olli Tyyyyypo (talk) 13:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

It's not that it does't have enough references, it's that the references are not independent, reliable sources. In order for someone/something to have an article it needs independent reliable sources covering it to establish that it is notable. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 13:42, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much @Kaleeb18 for the extra explanation. When I compare the two articles the one from Lee Collins has four references from three different sources (Unicode, IMUG and ABC Australia). The article about Dave I wrote has two of the same (Unicode, IMUG) + at least 4 other independent source (PC MAGAZINE, luc.devroye.org, Fonts & Encodings (p. 848. ISBN 0-596-10242-9) Macworld and W3c). I get it, that the references from Monotype and Github may not be independent, but is there anything wrong with others? Any help is much appreciated. Tyyyyypo (talk) 16:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Well I dont't know much about the sources so I cannot comment really on the reliability of them ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 16:47, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

I am very sorry to bother you with this, but maybe I miss something – on the one hand you are saying you don't know much about the sources and on the other hand you have rejected the article? I try to make this article go public for a couple month, because unicode is one of the most important thing in the digital field. The internet would not work without it and therefore it's very important to mention the founders of the unicode. Any help with it would be much appreciated. Any advice from you is much appreciated – really :) Think about any emojis you may send through messages – all this would not work without unicode. And Dave is one of the co-founders of it. Tyyyyypo (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Well I know that the Unicode articles do not contribute to the nobility of the article and should be used sparingling as it is a primary source. PC Magazine looks most likely reliable. Luc devroye is not. Google patents does not establish notability. Monotype may or may not be reliable, but I don't think so. Github and W3c don't establish notability ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 18:47, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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• Comment: @Kaleeb18: I didn't see this discussion when I WP:BOLDly moved the page, but feel the same. I suggest discussing any issues with my reasoning at Talk:Dave Opstad where I wrote it.
  Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 01:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@Psiĥedelisto and @Kaleeb18 Thank you very, very much for your help. I much appreciate it!!! Tyyyyypo (talk) 07:11, 1 June 2022 (UTC)