User9933

June 2010

Please do not add or change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. 24.4.101.72 (talk) 09:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

What are you talking about Anon? Are you new to wikipedia? I am citing Better Business Bureau numbers as well as note of sexual harassment charges by the federal government on the EOOC federal website. What could be more official?. Why do you keep blanking verifiable information?

I removed nothing about a federal website. What I did remove were vague accusations with abosolutely no citations for verifiablity. You make a really bad assumption when you accuse me of being an employee of the company. A better question would be what is your connection to this company? A competitor, or a disgruntled customer perhaps? 24.4.101.72 (talk) 09:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry if a company with with you are affiliated is getting what you think is bad rap from the federal govenrment (including a Federal suit by the Government for sexual harassment) and hags garnered over 500 BBB complaints. but putting up a puff piece on eh company and your wholesale blanking of several editors is not what we are on wikipedia for.

You can't simply remove reliably sourced information because it hurts your company.User9933 (talk) 09:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Again, you're just flat-out wrong when you make assumptions about my having any affiliation with the company. 24.4.101.72 (talk) 09:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Again Anon 24.4.101.72 (why anon?) you are accusing me of being a competitor? I'm an not a competitor or a disgruntled customer or employee., I have zero affiliation with any interested party. User9933 (talk) 09:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Interesting that you mention disgruntled employee; I never even thought of that one. It is rather curious that your first edits as a newly registered account are to provide detailed negative info about this company. Anyway, this is all a moot point now that you've provided actual references and not just made vague accusations, which was the reason for objection in the first place. Good day. 24.4.101.72 (talk) 09:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I find your actions suspicious since you removed removing critical information, while you left in equally unsourced puff positive spin. Were you naive or have some other motivation? I don't know nor care.User9933 (talk) 16:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. When you make a change to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to American Laser Centers. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit. It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. -- 220.101 (talk) ^\Contribs 13:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I left a specific notation the talk section before a single edit. Please ead the talk before supporting FALSE assertions.User9933 (talk) 16:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You mean false assertions like claiming I (and another editor from months ago) work for the company in question? Like those false assertions? 76.102.25.93 (talk) 17:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Now, could everyone please chill out a bit and remember to Assume Good Faith? Edit warring etc won't get us very far in building an Encyclopedia. -- 220.101 (talk) ^\Contribs 17:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

reply re Edit Summary etc

User9933, out of 12 edits to American Laser Centers you have made only one edit summary that was not automatically generated. And in that one "see talk, why are ALC employees removing BBB verifiable complaint numbers?", you are assuming bad faith. I was not referring to anything on the talk page. You did not leave a summary, I left a reminder. Fairly standard practice to help those who are new to Wikipedia editing. I will add that you are not the only editor failing to provide edit summaries on this article

Excuse me for mentioning it but you had 28 edits, 24.4.101.72 who you gave a terse 'warning' to, and called an "American Laser Centers Representative" (see DIFF) had 967.

On the American Laser Centers talk page, you began by assuming bad faith on the part of editors who removed unsourced additions, as is their right. See wp:verify. You ask "Are you affiliated with the company?". Bad faith again. I strongly suggest that you start to Assume Good Faith and civilly discuss possibly controversial changes with those who remove them rather than assuming a Conflict of Interest. See also Bold, Revert, Discuss for guidance.

Another editor has left a list of links below, I suggest you take a look at basic Wikipedia policies. Neutral Point of View and Undue as in giving undue weight to either positive or negative factors in an article. This article now has about 35% of it's text devoted to 'negative' comment. That may be undue weight, as I don't work for the company I have no POV on that, so far.

Anon editors have as much right as registered editors to edit Wikipaedia, but everyone is expected to conform to policy. That includes the Civility policy. 'Soapbox' may also be of interest. As you made 3 reversions in a short period make sure you look up 'Edit warring' or 3RR policy which only allows 3 reversion in a 24 hour period on any article (some exceptions allowed).
Happy editing! -- 220.101 (talk) ^\Contribs 19:29, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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