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Hello, Vayapues2, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Ian.thomson (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Waldensians, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Per WP:Verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" and "burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." It is also fine to remove material that is not supported by a reliable source. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:26, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I would also recommend that you look for sources in scholarly journals, or other outside sources, as my initial cursory glance mostly revealed individuals claiming to be descended from Mormon Waldensians, the sort of claim that (in other religions) causes pride to overshadow evidence (or its absence). Ian.thomson (talk) 22:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually, User talk:Ian.thomson would be the usual place to contact me, as your messages concerned article business. I labelled by grafitti page for conversational messages, so my talk page may be used for article related messages. I have not read all the way through all the citations, but looking over the first few, you have provided the right sort of sources (google unfortunately does not give uniform search results for everyone). Ian.thomson (talk) 19:46, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Ways to improve Pleasant Green Cemetery

Hi, I'm Ana Bykova. Vayapues2, thanks for creating Pleasant Green Cemetery!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Thank you for making a wiki page, it looks great. Please refer to the tags added to find out how you could improve it. Best wishes,

Anastasia Bykova (talk) 19:42, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

August 2020

Hello Vayapues2. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Sim Gill, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Vayapues2. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Vayapues2|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 22:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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My Response To The Above: You are an editor located in Japan, who has never edited a Utah article before. Suddenly you have showed up to delete any embarrassing content from Sim Gill's page, and to replace it with only glowing lists of awards he has received. This is inappropriate.

As far as I am concerned, I am in no way shape or form associated with this campaign or its opponents. I am simply restoring the article to the original version prior to your edits. If you would feel that changes are needed, please discuss them with the rest of the community prior to making them. Vayapues2 (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@Vayapues2: You really have no clue what you're talking about. I've edited tons of Utah articles. The only time I've edited the Sim Gill article was in reverting the sweeping changes you made to it. I have no connection with Gill or any of his opponents. I don't even live within the area covered by the election (though I do live in Utah), so I really couldn't care less who wins that race. You need to take your own advice on discussing things with the community before making changes.

Also, please try to keep any discussion to one page, and please don't leave blatantly false accusations on my talk page. I've been editing here since 2005, so I'm not some newbie editor. Thanks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 15:51, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

I have neither added nor deleted anything. All I have done is revert the changes you made back to what they originally were prior to your making them. When you come onto a candidates page and alter it a few months out from an election, and when all the changes you make erase potentially embarrassing facts, and when you replace them with lists of his awards, etc, that is always going to trigger concern about objectivity, and cause the rest of the community to revert your edits. Vayapues2 (talk) 16:00, 12 August 2020 (UTC)