Vlax Romani
The term Gypsy was and is also used for groups like Domari, Lomari, Abdals, Lyuli, Balkan Egyptians, Ashkalis and other Peripatetic minority's. The term Gypsy for Romani people is considered today by the majority of English native speakers and many Romani people to be a slur. Now, many english speaker Scholars have started changing the word Gypsy then in Romani or Roma. But, this aforementioned peoples are not Romani subgroups. None of these groups ever spoke the Romani language. None of these groups ever referred to themselves as a Rom, not all peoples who have been or are referred to as Gypsy's in the past are related in any way to Romani people.
The Domari and Lomari are own languages, also the other Groups have there own language. Unfortunately, these people are now counted among the Romani people, because of the word Gypsy who was used for them. Vlax Romani (talk) 16:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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editHello, Vlax Romani, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.
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- Well, I see that unfortunately a lot of the American Romani article was researched incorrectly and is copied without meaning and understanding. First of all: Balkans, what is meant by this term in America? Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, large parts of Romania are not part of the Balkans where the majority of Roma groups in the US originate. The descendants of the Roma living in the USA come from the former Habsburg Empire. Roma in America speak Vlax dialects, (if they still speak Romani at all), not Balkan Romani dialects.
- The group from Kosovo are Xoraxane Roma and not Vlax Romani.
- This article should be revised urgently, it gives the reader a wrong picture of the romani americans.
- Good Sources:
- Vlax Romani (talk) 12:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I appreciate your attention to detail and your willingness to share your knowledge on the subject. I am certainly not an expert on Roma peoples or Romani Americans; I did not revert your edits because they were untrue, but because they were uncited. You will have much better luck if you cite your sources and make sure your additions don't contradict existing cited sources. (If you think the existing cited sources are incorrect or poorly interpreted, absolutely be bold and fix it, but make sure you have sources to back up your changes.)
- The websites you shared here look like good sources to me; to use them in a Wikipedia article, add a footnote (see Referencing for beginners).
- You may also find helpful these sources I found online access to, which were cited in the sources you provided:
- "Roma – Sub Ethnic Groups". Archived from the original on 2015-04-05.
- While the website is now down, much of RomBase is saved in the Internet Archive. If you need help navigating the Internet Archive, feel free to let me know on my talk page.
- The books cited in the TSHA article are all available at the Internet Archive's library. It's free, you just need to make an account.
- Gropper, Rena C. (1975). Gypsies in the city : culture patterns and survival. Princeton, N.J.: Darwin Press. ISBN 0-87850-008-1. OCLC 1120822.
- Hancock, Ian F. (1987). The pariah syndrome: an account of gypsy slavery and persecution (2nd rev. ed., with an index ed.). Ann Arbor: Karoma Publishers. ISBN 0-89720-079-9. OCLC 16071858.
- Sutherland, Anne (1975). Gypsies: the hidden Americans. London. ISBN 0-422-74610-X. OCLC 1274066.
- Thank you! Wracking 💬 17:21, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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