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AfD nomination of Ki (Dragon Ball)

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Super Saiyan Images

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I really enjoyed the Super Saiyan page when it had nothing but manga images. There are hardly any images left at all, but I thought it was interesting to have a picture to match the description next to each transformation. Is there any way to get the manga images back?Chan Tanaka 21:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Img031.jpg

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Refs

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Hey Voranger, It's great that you added some references to the Super Saiyan article but you used improper format. The format is Dragon Ball manga, (volume), (chapter) and it needs a biliography complete with ISBN #'s which I can add. See Vegeta or Piccolofor examples. Also don't abbriviate when there are references. Use Dragon Ball instead of DB. Also don't list the corrisponding Dragon Ball Z chapter as its not really relevant. Also you know that template of yours sends messages to EEMeltonIV right? I'll fix it for you. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 12:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the instructions in proper refs, and I got rid of that messege thing. Do you know how I get it to send messeges to me? --VorangorTheDemon 12:34, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
The format is actually supposed to be <ref>Dragon Ball Z manga, volume ?, chapter ?, page ?</ref> - just letting you all know, if it's from the Viz Dragon Ball manga, use Dragon Ball inverse of Dragon Ball Z. Happy editing! Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

AfD nomination of Energy blast

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Energy blast, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Energy blast. Thank you. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 17:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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CSI

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I don't really care about Sara Sidle but i am currently obsessed with making Gil Grissom a good article. Would you take another look at it(or even review it) and give some more opinions?Yamanbaiia 22:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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RE:Majin Buu

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Kayla, can you explain your changes? Firstly, what did you do with the alias box? Where's Kid Buu? Second, you changed his gender to male, which may be challenged and removed since I've never seen any source concerning it. Lastly, you edited the romaji to reflect "Majin Boo" inverse of the earlier name. I'd like for you to respond on my talk page. Cheers! Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

In the alias box, you made "Fat Buu" into "Majin Buu" & changed "Kid Buu" to "Chibi Buu". Why exactly? And that gender thing has to go since it's unverified, same as Piccolo's and Freeza, well I'm not sure about Piccolo. What did Dende say about Namek gender? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
And can you answer my gender-related questions? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Well, you do have a point. Should we assume these guys are male from now on if their sex is unreferenced? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
This may interest you, but several weeks ago I discovered a lost Dragon Ball episode that was never dubbed in the U.S. (not even Canada maybe) see it here on YouTube. By the way, are there any lost episodes you know of besides the 2003 Astro Boy/One Piece crossover and the 2007 Nippon Ijin Taisho? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've read about that OVA on a site called DaizenshuuEX a few years ago. They claimed that it wasn't an OVA? Well, which is it? Are the pre-Namek episodes available on YouTube? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 15:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I'm curious, how long have you been a DB fan? And which series is your favourite; DB, DBZ, or DBGT? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 16:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Did you know one of our fellow WP:DBZ members retired? See User:SUIT. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hopefully he'll return someday. I've seen SUIT around Dragon Ball wiki when I first made an account there, he's a good contributor. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

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I had to be bold yet...

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... sorry if you worked hard on adding all that information to Goku's page. Per policies, I'm removing about information from articles that are unverified. If you revert my edits to Goku see if you can add good references to the content. I did the same to Yamucha and DBZ, still more to go. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

That's one of the reasons why I'm cutting all of the unsourced data; I'm attempting to decrease the risk of deletions and arguements. You're right, I think I too feel like retiring — the wikistress is a helluva lot. The problem is that there's always something to do, maybe that's why there are many dedicated users who end up leaving. You said you spend time on YouTube and myfavoritegames, right? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I *bet* if we worked together at Dragon Ball wiki you'd be relieved. Almost no vandalism goes on there, we might only have to deal with newbies and Recoome/WikiStar/TimySmidge socks. What do you say we join together and update the DB wikia to perfection? I just don't want you to leave like SUIT did. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 23:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
VorangorTheDemon/Archive. Old Page, can you see Talk:Dragon Ball Z#Removal of unverified content? Feel free to comment on anything concerning the subject if you'd like. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Can you answer some of the above questions you haven't replied to? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 20:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
I meant answer the important ones I asked you. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:DragonballZ-Episode287 188.jpg

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WikiProject October Newsletter

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The WikiProject Saw Newsletter
Issue II - October 2007
Member news
  • The project has currently 19 members.
From the Members

Welcome to the second issue of the WikiProject Saw's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

It's now "Saw Weekend" and Saw IV has been out for a couple of days now. (If you haven't seen it, don't worry, I won't spoil anything for you.) Because of this, a lot of the articles are probably going to need a bit of work. I'll go into more detail on other various sections. All in all, a lot of the 'challenges' from last month's newsletter are still here. Since the release of IV will probably be the last major release of info at least until next year's V we could probably just try to improve the information we already have.

We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. CyberGhostface 18:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Pages Needing Cleanup
  • List of traps in the Saw film series: This survived deletion, but it was recommended that we change the article a bit.
  • Detective Eric Matthews: This article could use a bit of clean-up to make it less in-universe. Since he's one of the few recurring characters outside of Jigsaw and Amanda, we could probably base it off off their formats.
Current Debates
Monthly Collaboration
  • Last month's monthly collaboration was Saw (film). As a guide, look at other featured horror film articles such as Halloween (1978 film) and Night of the Living Dead. More external information (such as behind the scenes, reception, etc) should be added if possible. A new one hasn't been decided yet. My suggestion would be to either work some more on Saw's article, or perhaps start a new collaboration.
Newsletter Challange
  • Try to make the character articles more encyclopedic by making them less in-universe. See Jigsaw and Amanda's articles for guidance. Also see Jason Voorhees, which is a featured article. (Obviously there is more information on Jason available than the Saw characters, but it is worth looking at to see what's considered the best of the best.)
  • Some of the plot articles seem to be overtly long. Without bowdlerizing them, maybe we could try to make them a bit shorter and concise.
  • Try to invite more members to this project. If you know any Saw fans who are good with computers, invite them to Wikipedia. The more the merrier.

--CyberGhostface 18:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Super Saiyan article

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I'm glad to see that you're sticking around still, what happened to the references section there? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I hope you're okay now. Meaning, you'll stay on Wikipedia for a while? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 23:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
 
Happy Halloween!!!
"Happy Halloween!" Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yep, I'm a have some fun at a costume party. Hope you'll have fun too! {^_^} Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

I'm glad you are staying, I was worried that we would lose such a great editor. Happy Halloween! DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 22:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

hey do you think theres a super sayin 5 --Allen jackson 15:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Allen JacksonReply

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Bring on the '08

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