WMFEssaywriter
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Asia Carrera
editHi, WMFEssaywriter. Welcome to Wikipedia. Just FYI, you are not a nobody, nor is anyone. On Wikipedia, everyone has the right to edit. I apologize if you thought my edit summary was dismissive or insulting. If you have suggestions on what aspect of my summary was such, I'll consider what you have to say, and perhaps reconsider the way I word them.
While discussing controversial edits on a Talk Page is indeed called for, I hope you'll understand if not every single edit or revert results in such a discussion, at least unless a dispute arises. Since you brought up this point, then yeah, we can discuss it.
I did not perceive any lack of reliability from Spike TV, and while it's certainly possible that they referred to Wikipedia, we don't know that for certain. In addition, while you raise a valid point, wouldn't you agree that replacing that source with a vague mention about an unnamed "small town California newspaper" isn't much better. To qualify as a source, you'd need to name that newspaper, and provide info on that particular issue, such as the author, article title, date, etc. (I know that not all these elements are always available, but a bare minimum of them is necessary.) We can't just leave that it there without a valid citation, but I will not replace it with the Spike citation. Instead, I've made an inquiry at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, and we'll leave that info blank in the article until we get some answer from them. Is that okay with you?
I'm 38, and I became a Wikipedian because it seemed really fun, and suited to my interests/hobbies/knowledge, such as reading, writing, etc., and because I believe that Jimmy Wales' vision is an excellent one. Thanks for asking. I hope to collaborate with you more in the future. If you ever have any other questions to ask me, please don't hesitate to do so. Nightscream (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. Btw, I forgot to tell you (though I suppose it might be on your Watchlist) that I started a discussion on the Carrera article's Talk Page, where I pasted our first two messages to each other, so that others can participate.
- And yeah, if you can find that url, that would be cool.
- Happy birthday. (Mine was four days ago.) Where are you going to publish your piece? Can I read it when you're done with it? I'd be very interested to read it. Nightscream (talk) 03:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Personally, I wouldn't, because on the front page of her site, it says, "Do not ask Asia for free 8x10's or what her 'real' name is!" Even if she replied, we would not be able to cite what she says unless she published it on her site, since an email correspondence would be OR. But yeah, I agree that leaving out her real name, even if we find a source, is preferable if she wants it that way. Nightscream (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. Nightscream (talk) 02:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)