May 2008

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  Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Randy Orton. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. 1362talk 00:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

There were no personal attacks. I merely corrected an un-informed user about necessary knowledge one must utilize when editing professional wrestling related articles. I can not help it if NiciVampireHeart is lackadaisically making inaccurate edits. As a respected and well known wrestling journalist I find it important that ordinary fans be kept honest. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 02:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nici is a very well informed user. I suggest you read WP:N and as a Project it is a consensus to not add week by week results. 1362talk 02:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would suggest you read Wikipedia's articles on Good faith edits and Personal Attacks. Clearly you are far from being objective. Also the items NiciVampireHeart has omitted from several articles are important pieces of information regarding the wrestlers in question. Especially since I covered them in editions of The Torch Newsletter. I know you are biased but the facts are what they are. Do not take your anger out on me for doing my job. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 02:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

And you are not assuming good faith by calling someone else's edits vandalism when in fact they are in line with community consensus. And why is everything instantly notable, just because you claim to have covered it on a wrestling website? Angrymansr (talk) 02:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Not everything is notable as I would request you refer to Wikipedia's article on the subject matter. However the items NiciVampireHeart clearly left off particular articles were in fact notable and require inclusion. I know you "smart" fans think you know more than you actually do but that doesn't mean you can diminish the quality of articles pertaining to Professional Wrestling on a whim. And I do not just run a website, I publish the foremost informative newsletter in the US on the subject. I also request you refer to Wikipedia's articles on being Civil and Personal Attacks. You can be banned for such behavior. Thank you. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I find it curious how you feel that everyone is being uncivil and making personal attacks on you. Please inform me on where I was uncivil or personally attacked you. If you want to see who will be banned for this type of behavior, I will hand you a mirror. Constantly threatening people who are trying to point you in the right direction as how to properly edit Wikipedia is disruptive. As is constantly insulting people by referring to them as unknowledgeable "smart" fans. This is a community of editors, and your opinion or knowledge on wrestling does not give you a free pass to edit as you feel. Continually insulting and threatening people who don't agree with you will only make your experience here worse. Angrymansr (talk) 20:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I love how correcting gross errors by other users is considered "threatening" by you all. In fact you personally have proven yourself to be a hypocrite with your last statement. Here you are attacking me when all I have done is help maintain the integrity and accuracy of several articles pertaining to the sport of Professional Wrestling. As someone who is in the business I am in a position to be useful and helpful. If you can not stand that fact there is little I can do to put you at ease nor am I interested in even doing so. You may disagree with me as it is your God given right but you can not omit facts just because you feel like it and cause diminishing quality of the articles I have provided additional information for. It's plain wrong and that can not be argued. I once more request you remain civil rather than fly off the handle. Thank you. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Correcting a link is not vandalism, and I would appreciate you letting me know where you felt I was uncivil or made a personal attack against you. ♥NiciVampireHeart10:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would appreciate if you refer to Wikipedia's articles on Good Faith and remaining Civil. Just because you as an average, ordinary fan of wrestling do not believe actual important events mean much to the lives of the men and women in question does not make it fact. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I am unsure as to your meaning. What exactly did you correct me on? You have been told that consensus is not to add week-by-week results, which is what I removed. I don't believe you have "corrected when wrong about certain articles". I'm still curious as to when I was wrong? And also, you still haven't told me when I personally attacked you or was uncivil. You also haven't admitted your mistake in calling me a vandal, when I fixed a link in an article. ♥NiciVampireHeart13:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

You have caused a diminish in the quality of the Randy Orton article as well as several others by omitting notable events based on arrogance alone. I sympathize with your anger over being told you were wrong because nobody enjoys hearing the truth. However that does not permit you to dismiss my helpfulness just because you are too stubborn to admit you do not know as much as you would have others believe. Your conduct does not accomplish anything I am afraid to inform you. My knowledge and history within the wrestling industry keeps common fans such as yourself honest. I will continue to fix errors as I see them. You may disagree with them as it is your God given right but I request once more you remain civil and refer to Wikipedia's articles on Good Faith edits. Thank you. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

You are attacking us by threatening us with a permanent ban when all we are trying to do is help you. 1362talk 00:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

I find it humorous you claim I am allegedly attacking anyone when it is clear from this page alone the three of you are constantly attacking me for no legitimate reason. All I have done is correct errors made by a fellow user who does not possess the knowledge she would like to believe she has. Nothing more, nothing less. No crime comitted. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Article Quality

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Well, my recent contributions have been to change links in articles, to avoid redirects, so I'm not quite sure where you're getting that from. ♥NiciVampireHeart11:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Hello, WadeKeller2012. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion can be found under the topic Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Help_with_a_Troll. Yours, --♥NiciVampireHeart20:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would like to suggest that you post that reply at the thread at WP:AN/I, so other users may comment. Thanks, ♥NiciVampireHeart20:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Some advice

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  • Please don't edit peoples user pages to leave messages [1]. Use their talk pages.
  • Please don't refer to good-faith edits as vandalism [2].
  • Be aware of WP:3RR
  • Don't make absurd threats of bans [3]. Its good to see you concerned about civility, though. Be aware that referring to good-faith edits as vandalism is considered incivil.

William M. Connolley (talk) 21:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

I It should be noted NicciVampireHeart reverted helpful edits of mine and mis characterized them as "week by week" when the information provided was maintaining the quality of the articles. Her reaction to being corrected was unbecoming of what is expected of Wikipedia users. She does not have to agree with me but she should be reminded to consider Good Faith as outlined on the website. As the publisher of the Pro Wrestling Torch newsletter it is my job to ensure correct information is published on this site and she clearly was leaving several articles dated and flawed. I have done nothing wrong and do not consider it an error to remind fellow users not to engage in petty insults when citing disagreement. WadeKeller2012 (talk) 21:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

This may well be moot, given 2008-06-02T21:09:56 East718 (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "WadeKeller2012 (Talk | contribs)" (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of infinite ‎ (latest in a string of impersonation accounts) William M. Connolley (talk) 21:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Given there was no impersonation I find it peculiar I was suddenly banned. I had no idea simply correcting Nicci's continuous errors would lead to such a ridiculous level. Oh well. I suppose the rules only apply to those who are willing to take responsibility for their actions. Given Nicci is a common, average fan she is just a long line of supposedly "smart" Professional Wrestling fans I encounter in my job. They act offended when they are corrected by those who are unquestionably more in the know. (WadeKeller2012 (talk) 21:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)Reply