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changes for client, Eric Alper's biography
Regarding the Eric Alper page, I was asked to make a few changes for the client Eric. The first paragraph includes specific, past info and Eric wants it more open and generic. Also in the second edit the current info seems incorrect where Eric says his grand father not great grandfather. (I believe that's Hannah Alper's great grandfather)
edit #1:
Currently, he is a music correspondent to CTV, CBC Radio 2, Rogers, Bell, Shaw Communications and Evanov. He is also a regular contributor to SiriusXM, TSN Radio, DAWG FM in Ottawa, and CJBK in London, Ontario.[5] Alper has been named to Billboard Magazine and The National Post's Best on Twitter.
changed to:
Currently, he is one of the most recognizable music correspondents in North America. Alper has been named to Billboard Magazine and The National Post's Best on Twitter.
edit #2
Alper's great grandfather Louis Grossman opened Grossman's Tavern in 1943, which is Toronto's first licensed blues bar
changed to:
Alper's grandfather Al Grossman opened Grossman's Tavern in 1943, which is Toronto's first licensed blues bar.
edit #3
if it is possible to add the following:
Alper is a 6-time nominee for Publicist of the Year during Canadian Music Week; a 19-time JUNO Award winner overseeing PR campaigns including 3 in 2021. Past and present clients include Ringo Starr, Jerry Lee Lewis, Ray Charles, Barry Manilow, Bob Geldof, Pete Seeger, Jerry Garcia, Monty Python, Randy Bachman, Sinead O’Connor, Steve Miller, The Smashing Pumpkins, Little Big Town, Black Label Society, Natalie MacMaster, DJ Khaled, Carole King, Jimmy Webb, Harmonium, Billy Ray Cyrus, Curt Smith, Rita MacNeil, Dr. John, Dwight Yoakam, Fred EaglesmithAni DiFranco, Harry Shearer, Dan Zanes, Opeth, Cradle Of Filth, Jordan Knight, Chickenfoot, Bush, Jeff Dunham, Judy Collins, Ashanti, Joan Baez, Slash, Andy Kim, Robert Palmer, Rival Sons, Cécile McLorin Salvant, Colin James, Kathy Valentine, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Pussy Riot, Bruce Cockburn, Murray McLauchlan, among others.[1]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Billyzzzee (talk • contribs)
References
- ^ Eric Alper
- @Billyzzzee: - Edit requests should be made on the talk page of the article where it will be reviewed by somebody who handles edit requests. I will not be taking any action on this request. -- Whpq (talk) 23:38, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
I did not say these files were irreplaceable
Hi whpq, why are you going harsh on my files?, im just trying to contribute here to wikipedia, i'm not using false fair use claims. I'm just showing images. And i am learning about uploading files. I'm just a new user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SomeWhatLife (talk • contribs)
- @SomeWhatLife: The non-free content guidelines apply to all editors, both new and experienced. Use of non-free content must meet all of the non-free content guidelines. If you "did not say these files were irreplaceable", then you basically are acknowledging that the files do not meet WP:NFCC#1. Use of non-free content on Wikipedia can be confusing because of the criteria that must be met. If you have questions, you can post at Media Copyright Questions to get help. -- Whpq (talk) 15:24, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Ok. If these files get deleted i will look for the correct rationale. Sorry if my files are giving you a hard time. SomeWhatLife (talk) 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- @SomeWhatLife: I don't think you understand. There is no "correct rationale" that will magically make a replaceable image not replaceable. -- Whpq (talk) 15:28, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Oh. SomeWhatLife (talk) 15:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm gonna take a break from uploading files locally to wikipedia. I'll still upload on commons though. SomeWhatLife (talk) 15:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 45
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RE: Non-free rationale for File:G3 domination.jpg
Don't fret, I'll delete it myself soon. El_C 02:45, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Whpq? Would you be willing to speak with me? El_C 02:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
About a help
Hi @Whpq,
Hope you are well. In a school article, I wanna give picture of all of the faculty of the school. So is there any way to upload these images to Wikipedia? I will benefit if you can help me.
Thanks. ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN! 【Click to Discuss】 06:15, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Tajwar.thesuperman: The pictures must comply with Wikipedia's image use policy. The key thing here is that they need to be freelyl icensed. -- Whpq (talk) 11:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Whpq: Thank you very much! ➤ Tajwar – thesupermaN! 【Click to Discuss】 11:06, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Diane Anderson-Minshall
Hi about Diane Anderson-Minshall- I work with transgender people and I came across her video with Larry King. It was then when I noticed that her photo was not up or corrected. I also am transgender and I respect her husband's journey. Out of a whim, I asked for photos to put up and they gave me loads of photos but the three I used were the best looking. Here is the link to Larry King and Diane that I saw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpA5BaC2jtk Also, she gave me permission to use the photos, and the way I uploaded it was as close as I could get. I will be going back and correcting the things you removed but please tell me how I can upload the photos she gave me permission to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aspieaboutit (talk • contribs)
- @Aspieaboutit: You uploaded these images as non-free content. The use of non-free content on Wikipedia must comply with all of the non-free content criteria. As theses are images of living people, for use in the infobox, these images do not meet WP:NFCC#1. These images are replaceable with freely licensed images. Even if no freely images currently exist, ones could be made. You state that you have permission to use them. It's unclear what that permission is. Aside from the aforementioned non-free content exceptions, any photos uploaded will need to be provided under a free license. You state that you got permission but there are several problems with that. There is no proof of permission. There is no statement of a free license. The infobox photos look like they are posed professional photos. For the US, the copyright holder of a photograph is normally the photographer, and not the subject of the photo. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission provides information about requesting permission for a photo. Copyright, and Wikipedia rules on what is allowable images to upload can be very confusing. Wikipedia:Media copyright questions is a good place to post any questions you have. -- Whpq (talk) 18:16, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
It's simple Diane Anderson-Minshall gave me the photos to use when I reached out to her for an updated one. I have an email stating that I can use them. As for them not being free- she hasn't uploaded them anywhere. Do you want me to have her upload them? I know she was really happy when I asked about a photo because she said her photo was older (she lost weight and it was like. 15 years old) If you could please help me do this correctly, I would greatly appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aspieaboutit (talk • contribs)
- @Aspieaboutit:It may seem simple, but it isn't. As stated above, the images must be freely licensed, and the permission must come from the copyright holder. These photos aren't selfies so unless the photographer has assigned the copyrights to Diane Anderson-Minshal, her permission isn't sufficient. As well, there is no statement of any free license. In terms of help, the above original response to you already provides the links. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission is the key one. If there are specific questions you have then you can ask but I can't provide any more advice without knowing what issue you are facing. -- Whpq (talk) 14:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
So, let me get this, Diane- paid to get photos taken for her. He gives them to her and she gave them to me. That makes them not hers? Really? The last time I checked if I pay a photographer for photos, they are mine. See, simple.
- @Aspieaboutit:No. Not simple. You may have physical copies of the photo, and the right to use the photos, but unless the contract with the photographer included transferring the copyrights to you, the copyright is held by the photographer. See this article which discusses this. -- Whpq (talk) 00:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Torre dei Moro images
Torre dei Moro images are from twitter. But I don't know the origin of the twitter accounts. Some pictures have been edited by me. I think they are in the public domain help me not to have them deleted. Thanks --Peter39c (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC) They are exclusively used for the article Torre dei Moro fire --Peter39c (talk) 03:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Peter39c:Images are copyrighted by default. You cannot just slap a Creative Commons license on images that are not explicitly licensed that way. -- Whpq (talk) 11:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Image deletions
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How many images do you mark for deletion? You must be getting tired of doing that, do you? Sorry if this offends you. Angelgreat (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)Angelgreat (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Curious about revert
Hi there. I'm curious about this revert. You say it's because of WP:ELYES, but that doesn't entirely explain it. The WP:CCSG, the Canadian Communities Wikiproject structure guidelines are for only a link to the official town link. However you removed the link to the official town link which to be honest seems a bit odd. As for the link being included because of WP:ELYES, that doesn't apply here. Remember ELYES is only that it is allowed under regular circumstances, not that it must be included. The image could easily be integrated into the article if one wished, it's clearly far out of copyright so a copy could be uploaded and incorporated quite easily. I can understand wanting to keep the image in the article in some manner, but to remove the official site of the down doesn't seem right. I think it would be best that the town link is included, as per the wikiproject guidelines, and the image uploaded into Wikipedia and incorporated into the article. Canterbury Tail talk 12:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Canterbury Tail: With respect to the Town of Oakville site, I understand that it is technically the official site, but removed it as it does not really provide much in the way of information about Palermo. You'll find some planning documents from the Town of Oakville about this area and that's it. It really feels like the external link is there just for the sake of a guideline versus being a useful adjunct to the article. Having said that, I don't have a strong objection to it and if you feel it really should be there, then feel free to add it.
- With respect to the image, if it can be determined that it is PD, then I am all for integrating it into the article. It surely would be better that way. I used an external link because the data page provided no guidance on copyright. I can certainly try digging a bit more into the copyright status. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Turin fire in Piazza Carlo Felice
I can write this other article or someone else will take care of it. Or we put another nice copyright infringement template! Write it yourself if you want. Now I can not even update the old fire of the Moro tower ... however sometimes it is better not to write, not to remember and forget without any testimony like this umpteenth bad fire. Goodbye! --Peter39c (talk) 17:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Peter39c: Nobody is stopping you from writing an article on any of the fires, if you write it in your own words. As has already been explained to you, translating copyrighted works is not acceptable as Wikipedia only accepts freely licensed content. -- Whpq (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
Does this file qualifies to replace non-free logo
I had created an svg logo [1] to replace non-free logo File:MasterChef India - Telugu Logo.jpg. One of the contributer doesn't agree with it. Before going further I want to know whether this svg logo has the acceptance to replace the non-free logo? Anoop (talk) 06:13, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Anoopspeaks: Your work is a copy of the logo with a different image format, so the licensing would come down to whether the logo meets the threshold of originality. I suggest you ask at Media Copyright Questions. -- Whpq (talk) 20:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Anoop (talk) 04:29, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Torre dei Moro article
this time I try to be polite how do you say that there is copyright infringement if you rework a sentence in another language. this time I try to be polite how do you say that there is copyright infringement if you rework a sentence in another language. We are crazy, on the images I also give you reason, not I have a thorough knowledge of the licenses and their attributions. Okay I don't upload anything to wikimedia anymore. Okay, do you want to have a personal war? I do not think so. Among other things, I did not even want to do this article but tried to be scrupulous, objective and adherent to the information of the media. You don't like it, you can also propose to cancel it, maybe such a thing had never happened, a fire and thank goodness without victims. you want to do it again, write it better, do it, every contribution is welcome. but to claim that copyright is infringed by translating from another language is truly ridiculous. But how do you want to write this article in ancient Egyptian? --Peter39c (talk) 23:40, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Or maybe you want it to disappear from English wikipedia or wikipedia, I don't want to disappoint you but I've been writing on wikipedia for almost 15 years. --Peter39c (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC) So you want to destroy my article and you want to hold the information hostage with that horrible copyright infringement template. --Peter39c (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Peter39c: Translating copyrighted works is considered a derivative work, and so your translation is a copyright infringement on the various news sites which you used to do the translation. See WP:DERIVATIVE where it provides the example: "The French translation of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is a derivative of the English novel. Translator Jean-François Ménard required the permission of J. K. Rowling's agent, Christopher Little Literary Agency, to prepare, publish and distribute it."
-- Whpq (talk) 01:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Torre dei Moro fire article is gone, but I don't re-write it. --Peter39c (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
2021 Pantelleria tornado I have not written the article, I have included it in the list.[1] I don't even think about writing the article about the fire in Turin. I pretend that the misfortunes in Italy do not exist so there are no copyright problems Bye! --Peter39c (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Violenta tromba d'aria si abbatte su Pantelleria: 2 morti e 9 feriti". tgcom24.mediaset.it. tgcom24.mediaset.it. 10 September 2021. Retrieved 10 September 2021.
Edit summary at Relative Justice
Please don't take my edit summary at Relative Justice the wrong way. It was an honest suggestion. Not saying my sources were great, but there are numerous sources on Google (non-primary) basically stating to the same thing, so maybe you could find one that you are satisfied with since you are dissatisfied with mine. I provided a third one in the article in response your criticism that it's not a satisfactory source. Hopefully, the third one does the job. Otherwise, I think you would be a great Internet source detector and could enhance that article. :) Happy editing. JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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A question Mr Whpq
Here is something I asked on your commons talk page, but I didn't get a reply 👇👇
Hi Mr Whpq, I hope you're doing fine today. Please I want to ask, if I should download a file I posted on another space e.g Google map and post that same file here on commons, am I still the copy right owner of that image? Remember I was the one that posted that same image in that space and maybe for some reasons, I no longer have that same image on my phone, and I decided to download from maps or the website I posted it so as to post the same image here for a purpose, hope I'm not doing anything wrong by posting that image and by putting my name as the original author? And if I can post that image will I post it as my personal stuff or post it as fair use? Please my questions may not be straight forward, but please try and answer them for me, I'm expecting a response from you soon. Thanks. --Idoghor Melody (talk) 11:48, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi Mr John, please you can also help clarify me regarding the above subject.Idoghor Melody (talk) 11:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 46
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Thank You for bringing to my notice the copyright infringements made unknowingly! @Whpq: SSG123 (talk) 07:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC) |
Copyright Templates
What template can I use to indicate that I got an image from someone else but not from Creative Commons? Faster than Thunder (talk) 01:06, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Faster than Thunder: I assume you are referring to the Tuttle Twins images you uploaded. Those images (and most other images you find on the internet) are copyrighted. Wikipedia uses only freely licensed images with very narrow exceptions. non-free content is allowed if it meets all of the non-free content criteria. Note that one of the criteria is that the images may only be used in article. That means they cannot be used in drafts or user sandboxes as you were doing. Media Copyright Questions is a good place to ask for help with image licensing. Also, as a new editor, help is also available at the Teahouse. -- Whpq (talk) 01:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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Next time just close or delete
This is how Wikipedia loses good-faith editors. Elinruby (talk) 02:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: I'm sorry you're upset at the removal but I really don't see why there was any need to keep that nomination when the file was deleted in 2017. -- Whpq (talk) 12:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- 1) I am not upset. You felt I made a mistake and told me so. In retrospect I agree. 2) You are far from the only person to misuse revert, which is primarily intended for vandalism. 3) I feel you are contributing to the general demoralization of Wikipedia editors by doing so however 4) therefore I am explaining this to you.
- As mentioned, I don't normally deal with the fair use policy and therefore punted. An excess of caution on my part perhaps, sure. But although I'm far from a newbie, WP:DNB still pretty much applies. I damn sure am not going to list the next question I have. This is not the only problem at Wikipedia, but it's a big one and one I bring up when it arises. I don't know how that board works, but closing or archiving the post would have been fine. I guess I should give you credit for the explanation, which *was* a step beyond the disdainful dismissal that usually goes with a revert, so there is that. I agree with your conclusion; I just would like you to reconsider your methods. And btw, "I'm sorry you're upset" isn't really an apology, if that is what you were trying for. "I'm sorry, I did not mean to upset you" would have been better. Although still wrong ;) I am annoyed but not upset. What upsets me is when somebody deletes a 5,000 word translation on the history of the Visigoths or something because they don't feel I am translating it fast enough, lol, since we are sharing. OK? Give it some thought, is what I am saying. Stop treating other editors as vandals ;) Elinruby (talk) 12:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: I can't see anything that Whpq has done wrong. In fact they took the time to explain what they did on your talk page. Revert with edit summary happens all the time, not just for vandalism. Maybe you are confusing with WP:ROLLBACK? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- sigh. I give him credit for the explanation and yes, my initial post was a bit short. However, he did do something wrong. I am explaining because I assume good faith. OK? Revert is for vandalism. A question that answered itself with a redlink is not vandalism. I can post some additional editing policies if there is confusion about this. As I mentioned, this is a frequent error and I don't particularly blame him for making it since no doubt he was taught to do so. I am not even actually annoyed anymore now that I see he is a compatriot. But yeah. Don't use revert on people who are trying to improve the wiki. For real, if you look it up you will see that it says so. It counts against that editor for all time ;) I have been asked to explain each of the times I have been reverted in fourteen years, more than once. Now, it happens to me little enough that this is not really my issue with it, but if he does this as SOP he is driving away editors, and I need some of those editors for the stuff I am trying to get done :) If it is not vandalism just make the change or ask the editor what the heck they are thinking. If you don't know that, then perhaps you too need to re-read the policy. WP:Revert only when necessary Elinruby (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- As mentioned, I don't normally deal with the fair use policy and therefore punted. An excess of caution on my part perhaps, sure. But although I'm far from a newbie, WP:DNB still pretty much applies. I damn sure am not going to list the next question I have. This is not the only problem at Wikipedia, but it's a big one and one I bring up when it arises. I don't know how that board works, but closing or archiving the post would have been fine. I guess I should give you credit for the explanation, which *was* a step beyond the disdainful dismissal that usually goes with a revert, so there is that. I agree with your conclusion; I just would like you to reconsider your methods. And btw, "I'm sorry you're upset" isn't really an apology, if that is what you were trying for. "I'm sorry, I did not mean to upset you" would have been better. Although still wrong ;) I am annoyed but not upset. What upsets me is when somebody deletes a 5,000 word translation on the history of the Visigoths or something because they don't feel I am translating it fast enough, lol, since we are sharing. OK? Give it some thought, is what I am saying. Stop treating other editors as vandals ;) Elinruby (talk) 12:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: I agree that my "apology" could have been worded better, but I disagree with your assertion that reverting is for vandalism. It is often used for vandalism, but that doesn't mean that it cannot be used in other circumstances. I'll explain further how I arrived at my actions. I actually did consider just closing the discussion but, opted to remove it. The reason was that this was looked to me like an error in understanding from somebody unfamiliar with FFD and reading deletion logs. There is no discussion to be had about a file that was already deleted in 2017. Do I permanently leave this error out there in view, or just remove it and provide an explanation? Considering WP:NOTBURO, there is no reason that I must use the close procedure so I opted for what I considered the nicer approach of removing, and providing an explanation. If you think that's the wrong way to handle things, then we will just have to agree to disagree because if the same circumstances come up again, this is the choice of action I would take again. -- Whpq (talk) 15:18, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- You really should read those policies. But fine. You choose to be part of what is wrong with Wikipedia. So be it. Elinruby (talk) 15:53, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Iam sorry to re-engage but on re-reading you I see that in your mind the choice was between closing and removing. To be absolutely, utterly clear, deleting, in my world, would have been fine. Reverting is not. I will close by urging you again to read the links above. I realize that what you did is commonly done, but the fact that you *can* do something does not mean that you *should*. Even if other people do it too. A lot of people refuse the covid vaccine, for example, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Look at it this way. I could call you a vandal who hurts Wikipedia by conflating procedural error and vandalism, but since I am trying for improvement it is more productive to note that you apparently don't realize that we constantly lose editors whose native language isn't English, because of exactly what you are doing. That is information that you do not appear to have. I don't intend to berate you about this but since this might maybe be an actual misapprehension, again, please read the policies. Thanks xoxox Elinruby (talk) 21:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Elinruby:You state "To be absolutely, utterly clear, deleting, in my world, would have been fine." That is not at all clear. What is it that you think could have been deleted? File:Paigcsoldiers.jpeg was already deleted way back in July of 2017. There is nothing to delete. You also state "please read the policies". I'll point out that Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary is an essay and not policy as stated right at the top of the essay. In fact, it states it "is an essay on the edit warring policy", so unless you are claiming I'm edit-warring, then even as an essay, it's not applicable. You seem to continue to believe that reverting is only for vandalism. It simply isn't.-- Whpq (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- Iam sorry to re-engage but on re-reading you I see that in your mind the choice was between closing and removing. To be absolutely, utterly clear, deleting, in my world, would have been fine. Reverting is not. I will close by urging you again to read the links above. I realize that what you did is commonly done, but the fact that you *can* do something does not mean that you *should*. Even if other people do it too. A lot of people refuse the covid vaccine, for example, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Look at it this way. I could call you a vandal who hurts Wikipedia by conflating procedural error and vandalism, but since I am trying for improvement it is more productive to note that you apparently don't realize that we constantly lose editors whose native language isn't English, because of exactly what you are doing. That is information that you do not appear to have. I don't intend to berate you about this but since this might maybe be an actual misapprehension, again, please read the policies. Thanks xoxox Elinruby (talk) 21:33, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- You really should read those policies. But fine. You choose to be part of what is wrong with Wikipedia. So be it. Elinruby (talk) 15:53, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- I am trying to convey that if the goal is removal it is not necessary to revert. I also submit that the essay, which I selected because I thought it explained the policy better, amounts to what we in information technology call best practices. In any event, here is what I see. I spend a lot of time over in Pages needing translation into English (WP: PNT) encouraging editors who don’t write English well to contribute, because they understand the source and with a little goodwill we can fix the English. Similarly, a lot of translated articles lack references so somebody deletes them in the first seconds of their existence, while someone is trying to reference them. The fact that you *can* do this does not mean it helps Wikipedia. Yes, translator can indeed do their translating using quill pens, then type them in, but frankly that’s inconvenient enough to discourage *me*, a native English speaker, and the Portuguese and Spanish speakers just go back to a wiki that doesn’t slap their hand for trying to contribute. That’s off in the weeds a bit, but this is why I care. Meanwhile, you seem stuck on saying that it isn’t mandatory to avoid revert and it’s easier for you. Ok. But there are consequences from that, whether you see them or not, or care about them or not. I personally think that Wikipedia is more useful when it contains the translation from the Portuguese I worked on the other day about the Atlantic slave trade. Meanwhile, if you want to quibble about policies vs essays, WP:DNB, posted above, is a “behavioral guideline” and perhaps you don’t feel it applies to you either. Fine; here is the policy policy: WP:NOTPERFECT and WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. I am sorry you WP:DONTLIKEIT. I don’t give a hoot about the picture and I tried to make that clear. I actually don’t care about your behavior either, specifically, but it really is the sort of thing that costs us editors. Elinruby (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
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More info re: weak deletion
Hi there, I saw that you needed more notability examples for a page. The person in question had a few other new articles and archived news interviews since you left your comments. I also found news articles about a Doritos add campaign he was a spokesperson for.
Here is the page I'm referencing.
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Questions about making edits to a page.
Edward Dillinger (talk) 01:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I am making the changes to the page for Jamie Costa as a fan. I had a chance to take a few headshots of this person when we crossed paths a few years back. The other images on that I have tried to use were listed on IMDb as I sent these to Jamie, however, I didn't send all of them to him from our session. The image that is on the page currently is from a super old fan film that he was a part of and I thought it would look nice to have a more up-to-date image on the page. Is this something that is still a conflict of interest? The time I took his headshot there was no money exchanged, just had my camera and asked him if I could grab a few shots to send him.
- @Edward Dillinger: Do you still own the Nikon D4S used to take File:Jamie Costa.jpg? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:23, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: I don't. I ended up having to sell it last year to make a few ends meet. Edward Dillinger (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Edward Dillinger: Have you taken any shots of scenery such as landscapes, buildings, etc. with the D4S? If you have, and are willing to contribute them to Wikimedia Commons under a free license, please upload them. This will help assuage any suspicions from others who might not believe that a professional-quality portrait is your own work. If this doesn't work for you, please email me and I can think of some other solutions. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: Hopefully the one I just uploaded is enough. Not really sure what I am doing wrong here so if I am doing something against TOS or whatever I would like to learn. I'd like to get into making more contributions the future, this just seems like a lot of red tape to upload a new picture for a page as a fan. Edward Dillinger (talk) 04:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Edward Dillinger: For File:Stitched.jpg, can you upload one of the frames used in the stitching of the panorama, as a JPEG straight out of camera with no editing? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 15:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: I uploaded one more image from that day. To be frank, I am not sure if this is one of the images in the stitched panorama or if this is a shot in and of itself. Additionally, I am not really sure what all you are looking for here but I am not really feeling all that comfortable with this feeling of being interrogated. Again, I'd like to get into making contributions and all moving forward, but if I am going to have to go through this many steps in the future for each change this will likely turn me away from this down the road. Edward Dillinger (talk) 00:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Edward Dillinger: Are you sure that File:The Winding Road.jpg was taken straight from the camera, with no editing or cropping? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: No editing or cropping? It is highly unlikely. If I am being honest, there is little to no chance that I am going to have an image from that camera that is completely unedited in any way. I don't have the hard drive space for that. Edward Dillinger (talk) 01:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Atac2 (talk) 13:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Nonsense. Reverting your vandalism is not vandalism.-- Whpq (talk) 14:02, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
You're not reverting vandalism, you're reverting perfectly good edits over one photo. Atac2 (talk) 14:05, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- You mean the copytight violation used in support of a hoax/misinformation. -- Whpq (talk) 14:09, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Nonfree images
Natureisablessing (talk) 09:56, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
There is an article Anchal Sahu which is being considered for deletion. I want to add an image there which is non-free fair use(link- https://scontent.fdel27-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/137219158_3595800957179932_5398629154482131243_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=973b4a&_nc_ohc=3SlHaGzWF6YAX_obKH4&_nc_ht=scontent.fdel27-2.fna&oh=00_AT9jyQZ-RGmeMm5L4W2pkMcfx0kDAY4aixBMXdo4cMA9ng&oe=61E23A50). So can I add it there? and I want to add an image of Ashnoor Kaur in the article Ashnoor Kaur and the image's link is below. Can you please tell which copyright will it be?- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAORiZEVQAIM8Vc.jpg Natureisablessing (talk) 09:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Natureisablessing images of a living person MUST be freely licensed. You cannot use images from Facebook or Twitter, those site have licenses that are not considered free. WP:NFC#UULP covers the non-free content criteria - note #1 "Pictures of people still alive". Ravensfire (talk) 13:43, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
And what about these?:
yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLT6BwF_Dyp4Cb9q9Xo7Awhm0RPULvAaSxSml1NslQ=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (Taken from Youtube)
https://www.pinkvilla.com/imageresize/ashnoorkpatialababesofair.jpg?width=752&format=webp&t=pvorg (Taken from a news site Pinkvilla)
https://www.grihshobha.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/anchal-sahu.jpg
arealnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Anchal-Sahu-3.jpg
Natureisablessing (talk) 13:51, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Natureisablessing:WP:NFCC#1 means you cannot use non-free images of living people even if you cannot find a free image. -- Whpq (talk) 14:37, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Do you see ANYTHING on those pages that supports a compatible license? Remember that basically every site is protected by copyright. The page must explicitly state that it as a compatible license (please read the WP:IUPC page). Generally, assume that an image you find online does not have a compatible license for Wikipedia. Yes, it's a strict policy that a lot of other websites don't have / ignore, but the goal of Wikipedia is to provide a freely available encyclopedia. None of those images are acceptable. Ravensfire (talk) 14:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Okay. I'll try my best to not violate any copyright now. Thank You for guiding me.
Natureisablessing (talk) 14:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Answer back
Sir Whpq, Please give me a chance. Please i want to keep Cricket 19 Tournament. I am not showing this to everyone, I just need for fun — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpinyRabbit052 (talk • contribs)
- @SpinyRabbit052: - You can have fun hosting your tournament at any number of other free web hosting services. -- Whpq (talk) 20:24, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Whpq: - But I didn't find anywhere free web hosting services :(.
- @SpinyRabbit052: - fandom is a free wiki. Wix allows you to create web sites for free. -- Whpq (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Whpq: - I seen this but there is no fixture and result to make it.
- @SpinyRabbit052: - fandom is a free wiki. Wix allows you to create web sites for free. -- Whpq (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Whpq: - But I didn't find anywhere free web hosting services :(.
Oops, I kinda doubled up on the speedy deletion on this when I found the original source. I am not sure if that's something that needs to be undone or fixed in any way. Well, the image doesn't belong here without VRT. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
I want to be blocked.
I want to be blocked please, but I still create account Gldgenga471834gldben (talk) 01:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Non free image from Youtube
Could you please take a look at File:TommyInnit On Tom Simons Vlog Channel Video "A Month In The Life Of Tom Simons".png? My long term understanding is that this type of usage is not allowed unless the person is deceased and there's no longer any opportunity to create an original. There has been a lot of promotion towards this article. The rationale used itself seems 'wrong' in that it should be used in context of a commentary on a video, not as a means of identifying an individual in a BLP. Thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 03:06, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Rocknrollmancer: Your understanding is correct. The use of this image to "quickly see what Tom looks like" does not meet WP:NFCC#1. As a living person, even if there is currently no free image of the person, one could be made by somebody snapping a photo of the person and releasing under a free license. As such the image is replaceable. As it does not meet the criteria for use of non-free content, it should be deleted. You can tag replaceable non-free images for deletion by adding {{subst:rnfu}}(that four letter acronym template stands for Replaceable Non-Free Use) to the file description. -- Whpq (talk) 03:30, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 48
Books & Bytes
Issue 48, November – December 2021
- 1Lib1Ref 2022
- Wikipedia Library notifications deployed
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Books & Bytes – Issue 49
Books & Bytes
Issue 49, January – February 2022
- New library collections
- Blog post published detailing technical improvements
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File:Downtown Vinh.png
I'm having a request for a speedy deletion for this file, I forgot to put information into it. You can copy and paste the file name on the search box. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victor311 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
mayak gandhi/Vsutar10
Greetings.
My suspicion is that the wrong page has been blanked. Should it look like this? --Whiteguru (talk) 05:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Whiteguru: Are you asking if Wikipedia:Vijay Kumbhar should be at User:Vsutar10? The history of Wikipedia:Vijay Kumbhar indicates it was moved from Vsutar10/sandbox. If your query is not that, could you explain? -- Whpq (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Whpq or @Whiteguru Did you nominated for Vijay Kumbhar page for deletion? if yes, could you please let tell me the reason so that I can fix it. Also I could not see Vijay Kumbhar in my Sandbox. Will you be able to help with that? Vsutar10 (talk) 03:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Vsutar10: I see that you asked the same question on your talk page, and that it has been answered. I assume that there's nothing more to be added. -- Whpq (talk) 13:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Whpq or @Whiteguru Did you nominated for Vijay Kumbhar page for deletion? if yes, could you please let tell me the reason so that I can fix it. Also I could not see Vijay Kumbhar in my Sandbox. Will you be able to help with that? Vsutar10 (talk) 03:25, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
Newsreel Image
Thank you for your advice and assistance concerning the image of graffiti in Derry. I do apologize as I'm not experienced yet, this was my first time. I'm very grateful indeed. Leitrim Lad (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Copyright questions
I don't fully understand why, but it seems you've marked, like, half of my images up for deletion for copyright violations. I appreciate that you are looking out for Wikipedia and don't take it personally at all, but I'm pretty sure most are fine. For example, File:Eisenhower and egan.png, is from the Associated Press, and it seems that Associated Press images from before 1st Jan 1964 are allowed. I've seen it on other images, and these images were explicitly approved. These have source and author info too, so, I am generally just really confused. I'd like a little word on what's going on. I will admit that I'm not the most educated on copyright. Thank you ^_^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mycranthebigman (talk • contribs)
- @Mycranthebigman:That particular file has been deleted, but working from memory, what I was was that there waas an assertion that the file was from Associated Press, and an assertion at the image was from 1964. What was missing was any evidence that the image was from AP and published in 1964. In other words, there was no proof that the conditions of the license were met. Taking another example, you have uploaded File:Old waino hendrickson.PNG indicating a license of cc-by-4.0 and giving this as the source. I can find no statement of any sprt of Creative Commons licensing on that page. How did you determine this was licensed as cc-by-4.0? If you have questions about copyright, you can as at Media Copyright Questions. -- Whpq (talk) 13:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's public domain, but gave no indication of the license, so I picked what seemed to be the most likely option Mycranthebigman (talk) 17:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Mycranthebigman:How is it public domain? -- Whpq (talk) 18:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's public domain, but gave no indication of the license, so I picked what seemed to be the most likely option Mycranthebigman (talk) 17:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
File request for deletion
Hello, I want to make it first known that I am not here to complain or argue, and I understand why you nominated the files from The Walt Disney Company for deletion. I want to know if there is any alternatives and how I could keep any of the images. If not could, could I possibly upload different file or something (I'm assuming not). I really would like to have an image Mickey as he is a huge part of Disney. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh I also changed the reason for the purpose of the images, but I don't expect that to change anything. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- As a free content encyclopedia, Wikipedia's usage of non-free images is deliberately very strict. The only way to keep those images would be for them to meet all of the non-free content criteria. I don't see how they could be kept. If I felt the images could be kept, I would not have nominated them for deletion. Note that Steamboat Willie is going to be entering the public domain in 2024 barring any more shenanigans from Disney. At that point, the use of the image would no linger be subject to the non-free content criteria as it would be freely licensed. Whpq (talk) 19:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Question can I use this file (File:Steamboat-willie.jpg) instead of the one I uploaded? If not, how come it can be used in Walt Disney? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 00:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's the same image. Why do you think it would be okay to use a different copy? How would that meet all of the non-free content criteria? As for uses in other articles, I haven't looked at them so maybe it's justified, and maybe it's not. Whpq (talk) 02:51, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Question can I use this file (File:Steamboat-willie.jpg) instead of the one I uploaded? If not, how come it can be used in Walt Disney? ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 00:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- As a free content encyclopedia, Wikipedia's usage of non-free images is deliberately very strict. The only way to keep those images would be for them to meet all of the non-free content criteria. I don't see how they could be kept. If I felt the images could be kept, I would not have nominated them for deletion. Note that Steamboat Willie is going to be entering the public domain in 2024 barring any more shenanigans from Disney. At that point, the use of the image would no linger be subject to the non-free content criteria as it would be freely licensed. Whpq (talk) 19:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello Whpq,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 806 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 851 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 50
Books & Bytes
Issue 50, March – April 2022
- New library partner - SPIE
- 1Lib1Ref May 2022 underway
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --12:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC) (UTC)
message regarding image.
hey, messase regarding the image Sidhu Moose Wala_2k17.png. i just want to know, what info is actually need to change as you previously said, i change some of the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiUser1211 (talk • contribs) 09:01, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Use of non-free images need to meet all of the non-free content criteria. The image fails to meet WP:NFCC#8, and no amount of wording changes can fix that. Whpq (talk) 11:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Damn you.
F*ck you for deleting my image. I was given permission. SafiZephania (talk) 12:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- You uploaded File:Al-Arba'een Mosque after destruction.webp as a non-free image. Non-free content must meet all of the non-free content criteria. There was a Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 June 7#File:Al-Arba'een Mosque after destruction.webp opened that explained why it was nominated for deletion. You were notified of the deletion discussion, but chose not to participate. user:Explicit was the admin who reviewed the deletion nomination and made a determination that deletion was warranted, and made the deletion. You can query the deletion, on the deleting admin's talk page. You state you have permission. If the copyright holder has released the image under a free license, you can have the copyright holder send in verification of the permission. Have them follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Whpq (talk) 13:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)