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RE: Portland Map

That's an excellent map, unfortunately I'm not well enough versed with technology to convert such a thing. Also there may be copyright issues, so someone may have to take it upon themselves to create a replica on their own. Bcirker 02:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of "do not vandalize"

I have to say I'm puzzled by your comment. This user is a repeat vandal who has been warned multiple times for vandalizing various pages and created improper articles. What did you expect me to do? Pascal.Tesson 05:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

But I did leave a note on his talk page. When reverting vandalism I prefer to use one of the standard test messages rather than go with my own inspiration. I really fail to see how this user could have thought this was a good faith edit when the page New Horizons has never been the target of vandalism (and given he never made other edits to it). Pascal.Tesson 05:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Point taken

• I responded to your comment on my talk page, thanks for the helpful advice! By the way, I think you are tagging your "signature" wrong, when I originally clicked on the red, "talk" part, it did not lead to your discussion page. Yours, Smeelgova 06:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC).
  • You are correct, looks like it's fixed. Thanks again for the advice! Yours, Smeelgova 05:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC).

Re: MartinBot/TB2 conflict

Please reply at User talk:MartinBot#MartinBot had a resource conflict with User:Tawkerbot2

Hi, thanks for letting me know - could you point me to a diff? Thanks Martinp23 08:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

That's quite interesting - Firsst TB2, then MartinBot, then AVB - I'll report it to Tawker, the creator of the bots. For the signature, you're the second person to ask me in 24hours - so it's changed! There's a talk link in the second half of the sig, and it's actually shorter (because I realised blue font tags weren't really needed :)). About leaving mesages using the bot account - I'm afraid the the bot policy tells me that my bot can only make bot edits :S. Thanks, Martinp23 07:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not too willing to put a "Bot" link in my sig, because I run over four of them - as for replying on MartinBot's page - I would do, but I'm really just following my normal system of replying on the posting user's page. Would it help for me to put a link at the top of my talk page to direct people to MartinBot's page, or perhaps to refactor comments to the bot's talk? Thanks for your input -- Martinp23 21:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Why did you attempt to remove Template:BadJPEG from Image:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.jpg

You failed. The page was immediately copied from commons:Image:Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.jpg. If the change needs to be made, that is where you should make it.

Frankly, though, the tag is there to request a PNG version -- not SVG. Will (Talk - contribs) 06:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

No, the page didn't copy. There were two such templates there, and now there is one. –Outriggr § 06:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For catching that mistake, I can't beleive I made such a rookie error (I need to stay off of admin talk pages at 3 in the morning!). Best regards, Yankees76 13:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Apple II survey

I'm conducting a survey about the Apple II -- any former users are invited to participate. I found you were active on Apple II related articles.

Come to User:Applephreak/survey

Applephreak 19:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You've made yourselves clear already

Thanks for the heads up, Will. If you'd care to read to discussions above your entry on my talk page, you'd see that the point has been made very clearly already. 62.194.12.240 21:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Please don't mark reverts as minor

I refer you to Help:Minor_edit, which says that, when reverting vandalism, you should mark the revert as minor. I generally mark reverts as minor only if they are vandalism or abusive sockpuppet edits. If I forget, though, and use it other times, I assure you I regret it and will seek not to. I will, however, continue to mark vandal reverts as minor. Heimstern Läufer 05:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism??

Why am I being accused of making "puerile edits" to /Guitar when I was trying to remove some EXTREMELY puerile edits that someone else had made? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.169.85 (talk • contribs)

    Wow, thanks for the lightning quick reply :)
I didn't quite understand what you meant though. Do you mean you found out who actually made the vandal edits? Or do you still think I did it??

71.146.169.85 06:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi. Please don't patronize people. I know what an edit summary box is. Thanks, Morwen - Talk 20:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I'm Morwen. I've been an admin for three years. I am exceptionally unlikely to vandalise things. I don't always use it because sometimes I forget. I appreciate that I should use it more, but I do not appreciate patronising comments telling me what it is : if anything leaving patronising remarks like that is going to be counterproductive. Morwen - Talk 20:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Can I suggest you (a) review the comments you are posting to people's pages then - the message is of a level that it would be patronising directed to anyone other then a very recent newbie and (b) further than you check their contrib history before posting such messages. Sending {{subst}}ed messages to people inappropriately is a good way to get their backs up. Morwen - Talk 23:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. Really, the easiest way to put a bad taste for you in the mouths of experienced editors is to minimize their contributions, even if it is entirely unintentional. – ClockworkSoul 00:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your suggestion about using the preview button. However, I've been editing here for a number of years, and one accidental click of the "save" button does not a pattern make. – ClockworkSoul 22:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking over your edit history and some of the notes made to your talk page, I suggest that you preferentially post your suggestions about basic functions of Wikipedia to users who are new and can benefit from such things. Experienced users will (and apparently do) find your comments patronizing and unnecessary. After all, nobody's perfect, and we all occasionally click the wrong button or forget to leave an edit summary. – ClockworkSoul 22:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

In the last few years, thenumber of edit summaries I've missed can be counted on one hand. You chided me about not using the preview button. – ClockworkSoul 22:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

User script - testenhanced

I'm not really up on javascript, all I know is it is darned useful. However, since you made this edit to the script page, my test template buttons disappeared. This is probably because it interferred with the "import_module" line I had added to my monobook instead of copying and pasting the entire section of code. I've since copied the code and it is working again. Interesting! Bubba hotep 09:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, to test my theory, I reverted your edit on the script page and reverted my monobook to the one with simply a one-line "import_module" command and it works again. I don't actually know whether it's best to use "import_module" (as the instructions say) or to copy and paste the whole chunk of code, thus having a monobook the size of War and Peace! Bubba hotep 09:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I followed the instructions here whereby instead of copying and pasting the code, you import the module - presumably to make it easier to see what's going on in your monobook. With the line that you added, the import process was impeded, as stated in the test above. It's no big deal, really, but I'm probably not the only one to have the problem. :) Bubba hotep 08:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

blatant vandalism warning

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Guitar, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -Crunchy Numbers 17:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

RE:JS

I think I fixed the problem. it was with some misplaced nowikis. GeorgeMoney (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I see that some scripts have been included with an import function. Try subst'ing them and clearing your cache, because they weren't meant to be included. GeorgeMoney (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the bug was when you copied it. something word-wrapped it, and that interfered with the script. Try copying it from here, which it shouldn't word wrap: http://wikipedia.georgemoney.com/monobook.php/83853/willpittenger_fix/monobook.js GeorgeMoney (talk) 18:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

To start a new section, please use the + tab above. Also, I may choose not to reply to unsigned or uncivil comments. Thanks.

To start a new section, please use the + tab above. Also, I may choose not to reply to unsigned or uncivil comments. Thanks.

I think that Sm1969's comments were civil

To me, User:Sm1969 was being civil. Perhaps he or she could have found better words, but I have seen much worse. As I see it, Sm1969 is struggling to understand your actions. -Will Pittenger 04:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It may not have been the most recent comments, more his overall conduct towards me in general. Thanks for voicing your opinion. Smeelgova 22:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC).

re

No, there is no way to have the current user in text. This is for security reasons. Pages to link to the current user's space are available at Special:Mypage, Special:Mytalk, Special:Mycontribs.

Also, I dont really understand what you need with the css. The infobox looks fine to me.

GeorgeMoney (talk) 04:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

If you have access to the current user's monobook, then just use the JS variable wgUserName

Also, for the CSS thing, I still might not completely understand what you want, but from what I see, you would just make a template like {{credits}} and have parameters like {{credits|producer=joe}}. Inside the template you would put {{#if:{{{producer}}|Producer: {{{producer}}}<br>|}} etc..

GeorgeMoney (talk) 17:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

On your ideas:

1: I will try to do that soon, but am very busy at the moment, so cant do it immediately.

2: The unsigned posts one will be a little harder, but will do it when I get to the timstamp one

3: Auto-archiving on logout is very simple, and I might be able to get to it tomorrow.

GeorgeMoney (talk)

I don't recall any of my scripts having to do anything with warn links. GeorgeMoney (talk) 05:58, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Virtual classroom

I've set up the Virtual classroom (VC), which is a forum for the discussion of advanced Wikipedia skills. It differs from the help forums on Wikipedia in that major topics of discussion are scheduled and once started remain continuous.

The reason I'm contacting you is because one of the class assignments is a comparison of our user interfaces. A lot can be learned from individual users, who usually have developed their own ways of doing things. I noticed you are an expert programmer, so you no doubt have some tricks up your sleeve. I'm hoping that you will stop by and share and compare the interfaces you use when browsing and working on Wikipedia. I've also constructed a tools page which presents everything learned from these discussions, and it is growing -- there are some pretty powerful techniques on there now. Even Interiot, Rich Farmbrough, and CBDunkerson have stopped by the VC to show off their tools and methods. It's been a lot of fun, and you are invited. The interface topics are called:

• External interfaces - let's compare

and

• Internal interfaces - what do you use?.

I look forward to seeing you there and to learning your wikiways. Sincerely,  The Transhumanist    23:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Interface user-experience also needed

Take a look at my tools page, it's almost all application-based. I'm collecting any and all tools and techniques for increasing Wikipedian productivity. Sure, info on scripts and bots is useful, but so far the most productive tips have been about how to use tabs in Firefox! We even figured out how to use tabs more effectively than AutoWikiBrowser on many types of tasks. A couple of posters mentioned that they use Excel a lot for editing Wikipedia, so that's another angle to explore. It's just sharing and comparing how we each get around in and work on Wikipedia. Anything goes. Everybody is learning from everybody -- the Virtual Classroom needs students as well as teachers, so there's no reason you can't be both! (I am). So if you have any useful methods that you use, or come across any in the future, or could stand to learn a few to make things easier, keep the VC in mind. For example, what do you use for searching and replacing when you edit articles? What spell-checker do you use on Wikipedia? You wouldn't happen to be using a WYSIWYG plug-in (or stand-alone) for wikicode would you? (I'm searching high and low for a good one of those). What search methods do you use? Do you have any navigation tools or tricks? What kind of things do you look for when reading articles, and how do you go about fixing them? Do you work on lists at all? How do you sort them? Stuff like that.

The VC will also be covering many other advanced subjects over the coming weeks, we've got a new section on "stubbing", and are looking for people experienced in other aspects of Wikipedia to lead discussions on topics like Wikiproject management, closing deletion discussions, conflict resolution, etc. There's definitely something for everyone.  The Transhumanist   09:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image use

Re [1]: The use of fair use tagged images, such as Image:Saint Louis Cardinals Logo.png, is not permitted outside of the main article namespace, per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9. This means you may not display this logo on your userpage or templates. Please do not reinsert the image, or any other fair use image, on your userpage. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 00:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Re FYI: You forgot to sign a talk page post

Hi Will. Thanks for the note. It is not of my habits not to sign comments but it happens once in a fortnight. -- Szvest Ω ^{Wiki Me Up ®} 11:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

"+"

Hi Will,

Sorry, I was unaware of the "+" technique and will use it in future. Did I edit something of yours improperly?

Thanks,

Larry

Lmcelhiney 01:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox vs. User box

Which is it, anyway?

Actually, forget the above, that's not that important to me.

I suspect you are an expert on these lovely/useful/informative boxes.

So can YOU make the CORRECTION, please?

I am a "student of history," not a "history student."

I suspect the WPedian creator of the user box for the above intended the FORMER rather than the LATTER. So can you make the appropriate change to it--the standard user box--it is a standard box, no?

Anyway, do you understand the difference between the two expressions?

By the way, I', sorry for the typo--I've inserted the "==" at the end--it was a typo!

Regards, Ludvikus 02:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for your recommendations regarding Userbox organization.

I wanted to know exactly what you told me about.

However, I'm too exited about Content, rather than Form. I'm writing historical, etc., articles for Wikipedia. Yesterday (I mean Sunday) I attended a small Judaica rare book sale and spent about $400 dollars on books from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Now I have to READ these (I'm guestion about 20 books) and then DEVELOP my WP articles.

So when I get a chance I'll learn how to do my Userboxes

Best Wishes, and Thanks Again, Ludvikus 05:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

SUBSTing

Thanks for the note on that - I must have missed one. I had a day of nothin' but reverts when the Duke University page was on the front page and apparently the level of vandalism wasn't high enough to warrant even semiprotection, so I did whatever I could to revert and warn and probably dropped a SUBST (or three) along the way. I gotta find an easier way to do the revert-and-warn thing, though - Sunday probably burned me out for a few weeks  :) DukeEGR93 05:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not that I forgot - it's just that all of the various instructional pages might as well be written in dutch, and there are so many of them so poorly written. I've been here over a year and still cannot/ do not do many things either because a) the instructions to do so are not clear on the first inspection of the 97 pages that seem to be connected with any action or b) are so complex that they read like someone someone on Star Trek should be using them to stop the borg. --Charlesknight 06:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

What needs to be cleaned up?

You put a clean up tag on the article The Beauty of Lebanon.....why? whats wrong with it? --Mrlopez2681 19:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

AutoArchive - Thanks for the Advice

I don't have the patience right now to learn the format!

Can you help me adjust an image of a book cover at The Jewish Peril?

If you can do it,I'll appreciate it very much!!

Best regards, Ludvikus 05:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Your request to wikify Vizing conjecture

I left a longer note on Talk:Vizing conjecture but, in short, your request for wikification is not helpful without an explanation for what you find unwikified about the current version. I note you have a box in your upage about wanting to use <ref>; I hope that's not the issue, as WP:CITE explicitly allows Harvard style. I prefer to reserve <ref> for footnotes and keep them seperate from the references. —David Eppstein 06:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Your template

You are using a template User:Will Pittenger/Handy Templates/Wikify Date with the edit summary "wikify this" but it is is coming up as a speedy dletion template. Can you please stop using it, if you wish to speedily delete something, use the templates found at WP:CSD. If you wish to wikify something, use {{wikify}}. Even if you did wish for them to be speedily deleted, none of the articles I have come across so far are candidates. Viridae^Talk 09:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Apologies, I found that it was coming up as a speedy because you had tagged it as such. Next time can you please remove it from all pages you had added it too first though. Viridae^Talk 09:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No probs. You didnt subst it (and that caused the problem) because when you removed the template and added the speedy ntoice, everywhere you had used the template now had a speedy notice. It has been deleted - I foudn it in the list of speedy deletions deleted it. Viridae^Talk 20:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivia On Aly & AJ

I know trivia is allowed, but the trivia I removed is trivia that was removed by another User. I was told that the piece of trivia removed was not Wikipedia-worthy. Acalamari 17:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

What Makes You Think They Were Not Free??

I WOULD aapreciate it if you inform me first before you assume anything and proceed to alter my user page!

Ludvikus 22:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Your Deletions

Please check out the other two cites from which the images had been taken!

Also, please give me the courtesy of informing me before you alter my User Page.

I believe you have acted in good faith - but are mistaken.

Best regards, Ludvikus 22:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Kashif Ahmed

Hello. Just thought I'd mention that I support the removal of the {{notability}} tag from this article. The reason is that the notability guidelines for people state, among other things, that:

Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable

should generally be considered notable. Kashif Ahmed qualifies because he played first-class and List A cricket, which are the highest levels of domestic cricket, and in Pakistan (one of the world's leading cricketing nations) that's pretty high; certainly professional standard. Hopefully this is enough of an explanation; I'm happy to answer more questions if I haven't been clear enough. Loganberry (Talk) 01:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Here I Come

Yes, Here I Come should be DELETED now. It's an exact copy of Britney Spears' fifth studio album! Dmurawski 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Riverside Drive

I've added my sources/references to Riverside Drive. RaccoonFox • Talk • Stalk 01:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

You were right - I was Wrong!!!

I now understand that when an image is used in a WP Article it does not follow that it may be used in a UserPage.

• Thank you on behalf of Wikipedia. Ludvikus 20:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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Quest Academy

I concur that the article is of dubious notability. It reads like an advertisement for the school (tuition, how to get more information) more than anything encyclopedic. --Oddharmonic 02:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Cellular Microarray

I have moved the copyright template you placed on Cellular Microarray to Talk:Cellular Microarray as this means it will show up on [2]. Jsteph 07:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

wikify notice on SCM Group

I saw you put a "wikify" notice on the SCM Group article I just created. However, I am at a loss as to what wikification the article needs. Relevant words are internally linked, there are categories, there is a proper heading for external links, the proper stubs are in place. What else????? Please enlighten me. Luigizanasi 08:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Killing Me-Åkerneset

There is nothing in the article that is not completely true. The source is a book on the depopulated farms in the inner Storfjord, by Zacharias Ansok, based on interviews with still living farmers. It lays in a area that now is the UN list on World Heritage. I am aware that the translation may be clumsy, but the subject is of considerable cultural interest. (see also Ytste Skotet, Havretunet and Agatunet)The farms mentioned is under special protection of the national authorities. I therefore suggest you read more closely what I wrote above and that the tag shold be removed, as it is of considerable interest to thousands of Norwegian descendants living all over US.--Frode Inge Helland 10:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)--213.184.199.252 10:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Copyedited the Me-Åkernes article and removed your notability tag. In my judgement it meets Wikipedia:Notability as well as Uncle G's more stringent Primary Notability Criterion, sources, sources & sources. Of course, as always, I'm willing to discuss. Skål - Williamborg (Bill) 05:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Copyrighted Image Censor User:Will Pittenger

Best regards, Mr. Policeman of cyberspace and Wikipedia. Here's your latest Userbox:

An editor has nominated the above file for discussion of its purpose and/or potential deletion. You are welcome to participate in the discussion and help reach a consensus.This user removes fair use images from user pages. Such images can only be used in the main namespace.

May I suggest (1) that you edit it to have the term Article as the place where Fair Use of copyrighted material, such as images, are permited by law, and by WP Administrators?

Also, (2) when you are on your turf, your beat, Mr. Night Watchman, can you find for me any Public Domain images of Andy Warhol, or Marshall McLuhan?

Thanks, and have a nice day! Ludvikus 13:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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Is "main namespace" a more general Wikipedian term than "article"?

Is that why you didn't use the term "article" in your Userbox?

How can you READ and WRITE these Userboxes? Is there an easy way to create them?

• Best wishes, Ludvikus 13:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Userbox Expert, User:Will Pittenger

• I've been inspired by you to start an appropriate article stub on [[userbox]es. Perhaps you should develop it. You seem to be a WP master on the subject and technology.

Yours truly, Ludvikus 14:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Royal deletionist

Greetings royal deletionist, I noticed u erased two new articles I've just created. Well 1st of all I created those 'cuz they're kind of important software, like Windows family products, that software has gained important aceptance among musicians, and it was mentioned manymany times on the press. Check [3] --Walter Humala - Emperor of West Wikipedia |wanna Talk? 17:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

reply to "Possible edit war going on with you and Malber!"

I have only made one edit to that page today which you have referenced in your message (and three edits ever). Are you suggesting I am engaging in an Edit war or have I misunderstood you? Would you elaborate on just what you mean? Caper13 22:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Howard Winant article

This article/stub which I began was marked for speedy deletion based on lack of "notability". However I did include a representative list of his publications.

I just recently added a link to a review to support my assertion in the first sentence that this man is a highly regarded race scholar.

I guess what is unclear is exactly what constitutes "notability" and why the citation of verifiable publications as well as web site links fails to satisfy the criteria (at least for some folks). Can you help clarify this for me? Thanks.Canticle 05:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

A Little Gift for You for Your Consideration

• I missed my Halloween celebration!!!

  

Enjoy! --Ludvikus 17:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)