WilliamHertling

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ~~~~; this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Hi. I believe that the Fist of Dishonor group does not meet the Notability guidelines. I appreciate that you did a lot of work on it. If, after reading the guidelines, you still believe it should not have been deleted, tell me and I will put it back so that you can do some more work on it. Deb 23:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

To save time, here is a summary of the criteria for bands:

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.[1]

This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, and television documentaries[2] except for the following:

Media reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician/ensemble talks about themselves, and advertising for the musician/ensemble.

Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates or the publications of contact and booking details in directories.

An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Has had a charted hit on any national music chart.

Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.

Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country, reported in reliable sources.[3]

Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).

Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.

Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury or Grammis award.

Has won or placed in a major music competition.

Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.)

Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.

Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.

Deb 23:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd point out that there is no article for Rock and Roll Camp for Girls, suggesting that they aren't very notable. However, you do have valid arguments, so I'll restore the article. Please do some more work on it to justify your arguments, or it will get deleted by someone else. Deb 12:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Creating Rock and Roll Camp for Girls

Creating the topic for the Rock and Roll Camp for Girls will be my second task: Since the Rock and Roll Camp for Girls has been the subject of national press, including newspaper, magazine, and television news, and has been the subject of a documentary, I think it is pretty notable! Absence from Wikipedia cannot be a notability criteria required to create a article in Wikipedia, or there would be no articles at all. WilliamHertling 03:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Very true! Deb 17:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:FistOfDishonorLogo.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:FistOfDishonorLogo.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Speedy deletion of Fist Of Dishonor

A tag has been placed on Fist Of Dishonor requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Ironholds (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

• I moved this over to WP:PROD in case someone knows more about their notability. They seem cool but not notable per WP:MUSIC. Herostratus (talk) 17:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Fist Of Dishonor

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:FistOfDishonorCartoon.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:FistOfDishonorCartoon.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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