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editHi Wombdpsw
editI agree that it "is hate speach propaganda" [1]. However, isn't sunlight the best disinfectant? I mean isn't that the best reason for keeping it, so that others may learn how otherwise good people can do evil and thus prevent future evils?Doright 06:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- No, certain things are simply too poisonous to be allowed a place at a scholarly endeavor such as an encyclopedia. What's next, a whole article of quotes from the KKK or Hamas saying that Jews deserve to die? Martin Luther may have been notable, but his writings against Jews need only be referred to, not quoted in copious detail. I strongly object to On the Jews and Their Lies (excerpts) and if it were up to me, I would delete it. Wombdpsw 15:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think we share the same concerns. And, I think reasonable people can come to different conclusions on the best way to address them. Therefore, I do respect your position. However, if you were to review the history of the Martin Luther related pages, I think you will discover that merely referring to them allows others to deny the truth of what Luther’s views actually were, what he actually said, and what effect it has had. Like holocaust denial, how can we keep others from denying the truth if we are not allowed to provide the evidence? In fact, I was at a Holocaust Museum when a patron was outraged at the display of Nazi propaganda in an exhibit. The museum curator had to explain that the purpose of the display was not to promote its contents, but to educate the public about the truth of who the Nazis were and what they did. I was sympathetic to the patron but supported the curator. I think this is an analogous situation to what we have here with Luther's On The Jews and Their Lies. I’m sympathetic to your point of view, but support the need to make the truth available to those who seek it. Respectfully,Doright 20:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
What if that article were an entire page of anti-Jewish quotes from Mein Kampf?... What I am saying is that we do not need, nor should we have, individual articles for the condensed extract of quotes from hate mongers. There is no denying that Martin Luther hated Jews rabidly. I am not interested to give a forum to that hate. Let people read those hate quotes elsewhere, we do not have to quote them here. Wombdpsw 05:20, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Iraq War
editI think your recent edit to the Iraq War was very thought out, moving all the rationals out of the overview and into the rest of the article where they belong. I would give you a wiki award but I have no clue how that is done. Nice work. --Zer0faults 19:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. → Wombdpsw - @ ← 07:48, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Summarizing this edit "Let's keep it NPOV" is more than cynical. "consequential benefits after Saddam's ouster" is a clear judgment, not neutral, and deleting the results we have ourselves in the box from the intro is just tendentious. No wonder someone like Zer0faults is happy with you. Añoranza 14:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- WP:CIVIL --Zer0faults 15:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Summarizing this edit "Let's keep it NPOV" is more than cynical. "consequential benefits after Saddam's ouster" is a clear judgment, not neutral, and deleting the results we have ourselves in the box from the intro is just tendentious. No wonder someone like Zer0faults is happy with you. Añoranza 14:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Iraq War
editFor your great edit, unfortunatly it was taken off by Anoranza, she apparently didn't agree with it.
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editThought I would bring this to your attention, you are being accused of being a sock puppet.
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--Zer0faults 10:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out to me. I will look into this issue more sometime soon. → Wombdpsw - @ ← 01:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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Miscommunication?
edit===>Userbox and offense I wasn't offended by your userbox, rather your attitude toward the discussion. I think you should freely display any userbox you want as long as it's not obscene or doesn't incite violence. Love to you, too. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 01:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
AfD
editHi Wombdpsw, this is a message I'm posting to everyone who participated in this AfD. I have nominated the same article for deletion again here – you might be interested. Regards, KissL 09:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)