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Didn't see a welcome on your talk page so I thought I'd give you one. Wizardman 20:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

edit war at Pokemon X and Y

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WP:ENGVAR

I can tell you're from somewhere in the Commonwealth, so please keep this in mind: if the article is written in a particular American or British writing style, please keep to that style. American English uses the serial comma so items are not "A, B and C" but "A, B, and C".—Ryulong (琉竜) 05:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Dude just add an extra comma. I've found it half a dozen times in your complete revamps of Pokémon X and Y.—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Photo of Eiffel Tower on X and Y

I note that you removed the photo I added of the Eiffel Tower to the page. I added it because it is a free image and we have sources stating that parts of the game are inspired by France and Paris in particular. The Black and White pages have aerial photos of Manhattan and a photo of the Brooklyn Bridge for the same reason.—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:45, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Pretty dumb reasons if you ask me. Pikmin was inspired by Miyamoto's love of gardening, but I wouldn't stick a royalty free picture of some moustached bloke in gardening gloves to point it out. At the very least, you should use a screenshot of the game that shows off its frenchiness. Wonchop (talk) 20:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Copyrighted images must be used as sparingly as possible. When I put the Unova map on the black and white page I was bitched at because there was already another non-free image on the page. Free images relevant to the article can be used as much as possible. As it discusses France being an inspiration, images of France can be used. Your analogy is once again so incredibly wrong. I have been through this shit on other pages before. Why do you not acknowledge any of my ideas and insist that you are the one who is infallibly correct when you can't even spell "unnecessary" correctly?—Ryulong (琉竜) 23:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Character songs

I've been over this with you in the past. If a voice actor sings a song in character, the character is the credited artist in Japan. Not the voice actor. They are mentioned, but the primary billing goes to the fictional character. That is why I reverted you on List of Persona 4: The Animation episodes.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:13, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Additionally, you have inserted factual and formatting errors. The show was never "ペルソナ4: The Animation" in Japan. It was just "ペルソナ4" or "P4 Persona4 the ANIMATION". And the third parameter of Template:Nihongo is for the romanization. It is not for the literal translation.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:16, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I told you this long before you modified Persona 4: The Animation to insert the same errors. What the fuck, man?—Ryulong (琉竜) 06:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Point to where it says 'you must credit the fictional character because people totally care' and I'll give you a friggin' medal. Otherwise, it's just pointless trivia that clutters up the article (particular the way the prose is written out). On another note, you don't need the Japanese title on the episode list since it's already featured in the other article you so deemed neccessary, nor does it need to be in bold. Wonchop (talk) 12:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Because it's what's featured in reliable sources.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

And while I'm here, "Stand" is a proper noun in the context of JJBA and should be capitalized.—Ryulong (琉竜) 21:14, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

All Star Battle NPCs and stages

I disagree that they fall under WP:Trivia. There is nothing on that page that even hints that they are trivia. You removed it once, I reverted you, and you started a talk page discussion. You do not remove the information again with the same rationale a few days later. I am tired of this behavior from you. You act on something, you are reverted, then you just keep reverting over several days until you get your way. This is not how Wikipedia works.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:43, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Wii Sports Club

It looks like you did a good job adding information about Wii Sports Club to the Wii Sports article, so I thought you might like to come help the full article about Wii Sports Club, as I feel it is now notable enough. Only if you'd like, of course! DarkToonLink^Heyaah! 06:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Looking at it, it doesn't seem to be all that noticeable for its own standalone article, since the only main different is the graphics, the MotionPlus support, the online features and the pay structure.Wonchop (talk) 11:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

It does seem to be notable because its differences have been covered in depth by a variety of reliable, independent sources, but I will start a discussion on the talk page. DarkToonLink^Heyaah! 11:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

References

When you add references please do not just use a bare URL. Per WP:REF it's bad to just have a bare URL or an embedded link as a reference because if the website ever disappears there will be no way to tell what the content truly said. WP:CT covers more. I'm tired of having to go through edits you've made on pages on my watchlist and use this to make sure everything's formatted properly. I've told you about this multiple times and yet you haven't changed your behavior one bit.—Ryulong (琉竜) 13:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Pokémon Origins summaries

Hey, if you don't mind, could you use the Japanese language names for people, places, and Pokémon rather than the English localized ones? Takeshi instead of Brock, etc. You already did it for the Boulder Badge by calling it the Grey Badge.

Also, what is up with the way you format the Japanese episode list? Why do you use zero before single digit numbers? And why do you make the English language title the last of the titles. I've asked you about this in the past and you never really answered me. I'm just interested in why you chose this format when the documentation doesn't do it that way.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

And why are you putting a ton of spaces after the last sentence in the summary?—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:28, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

I just copy and paste the stuff and sometimes some extra spaces get left over. You shouldn't really threat to much over what doesn't actually affect the main article's appearance. As far as the names are concerned, considering the games they were based on have been in English for over 14 years, coupled with the fact an English dub was announced, the English names should ideally be used (the exception being Green who, considering his entire attire is green, will most likely be called that in the English release). The Grey Badge was more or less just cos I forgot what all the badges were called. Wonchop (talk) 19:49, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Bravest Warriors

Hi Wonchop, I didn't quite understand your edit to Bravest Warriors here as it removed a large chunk of data with no explanation, but I think I figured out that you were removing a redundant episode list, as there was an episode list elsewhere. I've reverted most of my reversion. I respectfully submit that an edit summary would have been helpful to save me some confusion. :) "Ongoing" doesn't seem typical to me for television episodes upcoming, though, but I could be wrong. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:49, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I probably should've mentioned about moving stuff to the episode list. It seemed appropriate since there were two or more seasons. "Ongoing" tends to be a good workaround for when you're uncertain of a season's set number of episodes, as far as anime lists have been concerned at least, since you don't need to constantly update it with the current number.Wonchop (talk) 00:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Consensus on how to split article Senran Kagura

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Gaim

Would you stop edit warring every single time I revert you because you think you're right? This is so annoying. I should not need to have a reason to disagree with your undiscussed formatting change.—Ryulong (琉竜) 17:27, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Providing a reason does make you sound less like a jerk. I'm actually making helpful changes and explaining them and you're effectively going "it's not my way so screw you pal". Seriously, what other reason should people need to scroll all the way down a page just to learn what 'funsai' means?Wonchop (talk) 21:50, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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List of Space Brothers chapters

Thanks for the list. I wonder if you could update it? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Consensus on "Suggestion to split Guilty Gear XX/X2 updates into different articles"

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Youkai Watch

Why did you move it? The Japanese trademark is still "YOUKAI WATCH".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

And the US trademark is Yo-kai Watch. Level 5 even refer to it as such on their official English twitter. Wonchop (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

It's not been released yet in English. I think we can wait for the page move. Also, it screws up referring to the characters/mons.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 17:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Banstar for You!

	Banstar for contributing
	Thanks to you, It was easy to create anime articles in my language. Thank you. 콩가루 (talk) 05:34, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

List of Samurai Flamenco episodes

How come you're not posting the Japanese titles found here when you put a new episode entry in?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:46, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Because I didn't know they were there. Usually I have to try and guess enough of the kanji to attempt a google search of it, which is harder when shows don't state the titles out loud. Wonchop (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Well you add the English version every week? Are you just going off of the subs or something?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Pretty much. Wonchop (talk) 09:42, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Jojo episode list

I've reverted your half-sided merge of the episode lists (and malfomed at that), as I feel it is better to provide the information on other articles as more and more seasons are broadcast, as is done in general for TV series.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

All you've said in your revert reason is "I don't agree with this merge", which doesn't give a good impression (considering over 50,000 users approved of the merge). There's not enough episodes to warrant multiple lists as its not exactly One Piece length at this time and seems to be sticking to two-cour seasons. At the very least, Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency should be merged together as a single season. Wonchop (talk) 18:50, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

What the hell do you mean "50,000 users approved of the merge"? You just haphazardly threw the two articles together without any prior discussion, and you did it, again. Please do not move the pages and perform these one-sided "merges" without a consensus. There is no requirement that we stick to the seasonal divide as there is a defined set of divisions within the first season.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Also you need to stop adding the Bamco names to these pages. We have no source for it. Just people watching streams of beta versions. And it's particularly trivial when the name had not been changed in the original translation of the comics.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:50, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I've done my best to fix everything you attempted to do, despite the fact I still somewhat disagree with it. However, I would appreciate if you did not heavily abbreviate the episode summaries to where the content ends up being factually incorrect or misleading, particularly when it seems you don't think events that are divided by years in the narrative belong in the same paragraph. In the future, when your bold move is opposed, do not just find a new way to make it the way you want. Also, when you merge pages, you do not just copy the text from one page and paste it onto another. Merging means one or more pages are turned into redirects to the new topic. For someone who has been here for almost as long as I have, you should know this by now. Your actions just left the Battle Tendency list on its own rather than making it a redirect that points to the combined page, and now because all of the original editing history is still at the original episode list page rather than the ones that became the separate Phantom Blood and Stardust Crusaders pages, I have to get someone to fix that.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

They're called summaries for a reason. Keeping episode summaries to a single paragraph has been pretty much standard for every anime episode list, barring really long stuff like movies. Heck, the horizontal line even says (use sparingly) when you highlight it, and it's not gonna be sparingly if you use it for every episode. And if you're going to contend my edits, you need to make convincing arguments that they were better the way they were, because that's effectively just saying my way is best so nyuh. Wonchop (talk) 23:59, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, but when you get reverted for any reason it's simple etiquette on this website to start a discussion rather than just restoring your version again. You never did that. You just threw a bunch of pages together, left one of those pages standing without doing anything to it other than reinstituting your preferred form on it again, and all of this had to result in me asking an admin to move page histories around because of the original split that I made last year kept everything about the new page you made (the season 1 list [and we don't use "season one" on any other artcle]) was on the first one. Horizontal lines are used sparigingly and only on points where there is a large temporal gap. I have no idea what you mean "the horizontal line even says (use sparingly) when you highlight it". You keep saying things that make absolutely no sense and expect me to agree with your argument?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 07:27, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Stop moving the fucking pages around. They don't need the "List of...episodes" parts. And please be more accurate when you write these things. We don't get Kakyoin's name until he introduces himself. And it is not an "alien creature" in his brain.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Dude, it's an episode list that's actually linked from, for lack of a better word, a hub article titled List of... episodes. Just calling it "JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders" confuses it with the manga article titled "Stardust Crusaders". And don't get so fussy about the order of when things get named. It just leads to unneccessary filler. Wonchop (talk) 20:52, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

So we can put a {{about}} template at the top of the episode list page. And all TV seasons are formatted this way. It's no longer (for example) List of CSI: Miami episodes (season 1) it's just CSI: Miami (season 1). And you have to write about fiction as it is presented. Any other method could be construed as original research. And with the Stand names, the next episode is going to have a whole scene dedicated to the naming of Star Platinum and Hermit Purple. They have had no name through this point.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Since when has that been the case for anime episode listings? Your logic is just ridiculous. Particularly considering you insisted on seperate articles for Persona 4: The Animation and List of Persona 4: The Animation episodes. Just calling the episode list article just by its anime title is confusing, especialling in the case that it has the same title as the freaking manga. You could probably just call the hub page JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (television anime series), but the actual episode lists should be called episode lists. Because people are going there to read up on the episodes. Not to mention your CSI example could be construed as WP:OTHERSTUFF. Let's just go with a third opinion on this one. Wonchop (talk) 11:51, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Crunchyroll translations

While a lot of them are better than what has been created in the past, I'm not sure about the changes to the "Caesar's Lonely Youth" or "Warrior Returning to the Wind" titles. Those are more accurate to the Japanese than what Crunchyroll came up with. Also, if you're going to be changing them there, then they should probably have been changed on the chapter lists as they're the same titles. This is also going to prove to be a problem as it's "Tower of Gray" in Japan, but Crunchyroll chose to write it as "Grey" for reasons that I can never tell. And also, the subtitles are going to be radically different in the future should they use the new official names for everyone outside of Japan, like "Jean-Pierre Eiffel" or "Cool Ice".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:57, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, since it's an article about the anime adaptation, it should probably use the English names being given to it in the anime. Much like how YuGiOh articles will use names like 'Jonouchi' and 'Honda' for manga listings, but articles about the anime will use 4Kids names like 'Joey' and 'Tristan'.Wonchop (talk) 09:57, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm impressed you haven't given up in frustration dealing with Ryulong after so long. I agree with you, also adding that Case Closed uses Viz's translations for the manga chapters and summaries while Funimation's with the anime due to the dual licenses. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:07, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Champ

Hey there pal. I just wanted to say that I got NES Remix 2 (in case you couldn't tell, lol) and I realized the direct comparison to Nintendo World Championships both in the game and then in some other stuff. I had deleted your mention of it a while ago, because I had thought it was original research! Then I placed #38 on the thing they actually call Nintendo World Championships Remix so I restored and upgrade that content, copyedited the Nintendo World Championships article, and felt compelled to come back and find the original contributor of the idea! Sorry, hehe.  ;)

By the way, how did you arrive at the idea that Championship mode is enabled specifically by the detection of a NES Remix save file? Do you have a citation for that? I am interested in learning whether anyone is reverse engineering the game and its ROM images.

It's mentioned in the IGN review. Wonchop (talk) 22:23, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Let me know if you're playing the game, because my NNID is Smuckola — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 15:49, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Yo-Kai

If you're going to make this change, make it across all the Youkai Watch pages. And also, "yo-kai" should not be a common noun if you're just referring to the monsters. No one uses "pokémon" or "digimon" so why would "yo-kai" be used?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 16:34, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm just going by what the press statement from Dentsu said.Wonchop (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

It's odd that they're doing that when it's something they're going to try to trademark.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:42, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Strength episode summary

Stop erasing all my changes to properly address what happened in the episode as it happened rather than your just barely correct description of the events.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

That's what a summary is. Summarising the episode in as short a manner as possible. In the case of JoJo, you only need to mention the details that are relevant to the progression of the story. Rather than say "This guy killed one guy with a gun. Then he killed another guy with a knife. Then he killed yet another guy with a hammer. Then he drank a beer.", just say "He killed three guys before drinking a beer." You don't need to emphasise that the monkey has porn or the old hag gives a generic villain speech. Wonchop (talk) 20:46, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

It's too short. You are not presenting the information as it happened. It's essentially your personal interpretation rather than a direct telling. You're skipping dialog and presenting everything wrong.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 20:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Again, that's the point of summary. It's not supposed to be a direct telling, otherwise we'd be mentioning every single time someone says a catchphrase or does a silly pose. Dialogue isn't typically mentioned unless it is drastically important to the plot (eg. Vader tells Luke he is his father). It's not like I'm reducing it to "Jotaro goes on a boat and kicks the crap out of a monkey." or anything. It's merely keeping things to their basic facts, matching the current size of the previous episode summaries. Wonchop (talk) 20:54, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

You may want to read up on this Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary. It mentions how summaries don't need every single detail or neccessarily needs to be told in order. Wonchop (talk) 20:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

The summary is just missing things that convey the aspects of the plot. Forever suddenly having fresh food and looking at a Playboy leads up to how he's not normal and is attracted to the runaway girl. Enya(ba) appears in the beginning of the episode. The way Strength's name is revealed is interesting. I know I wrote way too much to begin with (hours ago) but an extra 4 sentences to what you wrote is not going to be a problem now.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:07, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Quoted from WP:PLOTSUMNOT : "Do not attempt to recreate the emotional impact of the work through the plot summary. Wikipedia is not a substitute for the original." The specifics of Forever's porno lust and his naming of Strength only come off as interesting when you actually watch it in the anime. As for Enyaba, her appearance at the end of the episode warrants mentioning since it foreshadows an important plot element, namely how she has a son with two right hands like a certain someone Polnareff is searching for. However, her appearance at the beginning of the episode is just typical villain banter that adds nothing to the episode.Wonchop (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

How is providing context to the suspense or vaguely saying how a non-human character is communicating beyond the summary's extent? And Enya's presence in the beginning and end give context, just as much as the foreshadowing of her hands.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:23, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Enya's speech seems very much like the kind we're probably going to hear every other episode, like a villain stating they'll crush the magical girl every week. Forever's actions would be considered more important if they had much importance in the plot, but otherwise it's just visual filler that doesn't come across in text format well. To use episode 5 as another example, the statue Polnareff carves is worth mentioning because Avdol uses it against him, but the trick he does with the coins isn't.Wonchop (talk) 21:41, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

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More JOjo stuff

The cherry stuff is representative of Kakyoin as a character and is one of the most famous scenes from the manga, despite it having no apparent plot relevance. Stop removing it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

The fact it has 'no apparent plot relevance' probably means you shouldn't be putting it in a PLOT summary. If we were to include things based on how famous they are, the page would be half descriptions of when Jotaro said 'yare yare'. If Jotaro were to, say, take that cherry and have Star Platinum flick it into Rubber Soul's eye or something, maybe it'd warrant mentioning. Seriously, Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary. Wonchop (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

It's still an iconic scene which has had permutations in all of the previous media that featured the Rubber Soul fight and Kakyoin as a character.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:46, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Still nothing to do with plot. Wonchop (talk) 18:52, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

The essay you linked to says iconic parts of the work's notability get included in plot summaries. The rero rero scenes count under that.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:59, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's not the definition of 'iconic' the article had in mind. JoJo is filled with various bits that are technically iconic but are generally pointless in terms of the actual storyline, such as Joseph's 'next line' phrase or Kars playing guitar of Lisa Lisa's leg. Iconic and memeworthy they are, they're not worth mentioning in the context of a plot summary. You'll notice the plot summary for The Matrix completely omits the incredibly iconic 'bullet time dodge' scene altogether. The point is, summaries are intended to summarize entire storylines in as few words as possible, and you're spending about two or three sentences describing scenes lasting about ten seconds at most that are just thrown in for comedic effect, as well describing in detail throwaway scenes such as 'bwahaha I'm evil and you can't beat me'. Also, 'Ora Rush'? Seriously? Wonchop (talk) 19:18, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Iconic scenes are still iconic scenes. And the "Ora Rush" is the name of the pummeling in various related works.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 21:36, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

And pointless scenes are pointless, no matter how iconic they are. K-On's 'un-tan' scene is just as iconic but you wouldn't add it to an episode summary cos it's just a throwaway gag. Like it also says in that article, you're not supposed to try and replicate the experience word for word, just get the main point plots across. You need to think about the overall picture, not just 'oh it says this one thing so nyuh'. Remember articles are to be written in a manner that avoids overly in-universe terminology whereever possible. Why use confusing and, let's face it, fanboyish terms like 'Ora Rush' when just simply 'pummeling' would suffice? Noone mentions specific attack names when writing out Yu-Gi-Oh! or Digimon articles. It's only worth mentioning if it's something complex, such as the introduction of Jotaro's Star Finger, and that's only because it's intricacies were important to how he won his fight. Ora Rush is just 'beating the shit out of someone', which he pretty much does in every fight scene he's in, and hardly counts as an intricate technique. Wonchop (talk) 12:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

These things have names. And there are popular and famous quotes. There's no reason to remove them.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:48, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

All irrelevant when describing plot. Ever notice how we don't describe shootings as people going 'bang bang'? If we were to put in nonsensical catchphrases and onomatopeia for every instance, then the episode articles would be fifty percent YARE YARE and TSUGI NI OMAE WA and PAAAAAAAAAAAAN or whatever. Just... no.Wonchop (talk) 19:09, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

It is a direct quote of the dialogue and not the random onomatopoeia that shows up. It is a notable event that is related to the plot.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:22, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

All I'm doing is adding phrases that are iconic and notable. They appeared in Heritage for the Future. They appeared in All Star Battle. They show up god damn everywhere. Adding "rero rero" and other quotes (such as the one for that quote you put in in the first place) in context is adding further real world context to the plot summaries.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:28, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Summaries aren't meant to be direct quotes. That's what screenplays are for. The fact they show up in fighting games does not show they're important to the plot, they just make amusing taunts and victory poses that can be done anywhere regardless of context. Regardless, I've started up a section in the episode list's talk page so others can weigh in. Wonchop (talk) 19:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Jesus christ man it's two fucking words. What is your problem?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 19:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

If you want to go over the top with rero reros and how important cherry licking is, there's fan Wikias for that. I'm just following the definition of a summary; to describe the plot in as few words as neccessary. Wonchop (talk) 19:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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Character subpages

This is the reason why I've always been uneasy about splitting off character sections from long anime articles into separate pages. Other editors are often too trigger-happy about tagging it to hell and beyond. What do you think should be done for this page? --benlisquare_T•C•E 05:08, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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This is to let you know that I have requested deletion of A_Certain_Scientific_Railgun_S and A_Certain_Scientific_Railgun_(season_1). Originally these 2 pages were split off from List of A Certain Scientific Railgun episodes, but the content has been copied back to the original article, and now these 2 pages are redirects. The redirects are interfering with the help page for the Japanese language template, and I think they aren't really needed anymore, so I requested deletion.
If you don't object (you can object by removing the deletion requests), an administrator will probably delete the redirect pages after 1 week. Thanks. -- Margin1522 (talk) 13:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

The PRODs aren't valid and Wonchop you should have just turned the pages into redirects instead of just adding the redirect code on top of everything.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 17:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Quick question

I'm not sure if this is an English variation thing but I keep correcting this from all I had learned growing up in writing classes. As far as I am aware, "group" is a singular noun, so it should be accompanied by singular verbs like "The group does this" rather than "The group do this". Is this not the case in other variants of English?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:31, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

"Group" is a singular noun.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 14:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#RfC

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Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to School-Live!. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. —Farix (t | c) 18:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Episode titles are given by episode previews should they be provided, and the dates are presumed to be for the following week unless a change to the schedule is announced, or it has an irregular schedule like Sailor Moon Crystal. The main issue here is there isn't much in the way of suggestions on where to get verifiable sources for future dates, given the way a channel's site's schedule is programmed, and I can't exactly just say 'go watch that episode on Crunchyroll', since it'd be unavailable for non-premium members. If it helps, the On Air pages of an anime's official sites states that episodes will air every week on a relevant day of the week following the air date for the first episode. In this case, School Live's site uses the phrase (that loosely translates to) "Every Thursday from July 9 at 23:30", which more or less states that an episode will come out every Thursday after that date unless something unexpected (and sourceable) happens. Oddly enough this doesn't seem to be an issue for previously aired episodes or anything. I'd probably appreciate ways to rectify this instead of threats. Wonchop (talk) 21:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

For now, I've added links to the official site's Story and On Air pages in the episode tables for both Himouto and School-Live, which serves to give better source to the currently aired episodes and provides a basis for the dating of future episodes (ie. you just take the earliest date listed on the on air date for the first ep and add seven days for each week, providing an additional source if there's a schedule change). I guess I won't argue too much about the titles of future eps being hidden, though I just tend to go with whatever each article does regularly. Wonchop (talk) 22:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V episodes

On the website, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Yu-Gi-Oh!_Arc-V_episodes&action=history, you asked Why split into so many sentences? The sentences in each episode summary should be split to be more concise and not overly long sentences. I have noticed that some sentences are too long with sentence structure problems such as run-ons, commas splices, and fused sentences. Other problems I have noticed are sentence fragments, subject-verb agreement and sentence clauses. I have been editing the episode summaries that have recently aired in English. Could you please undo the edit you did when you asked the question Why split into so many sentences?--Rskyhigh1 01:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rskyhigh1 (talk • contribs)

The fragmented sentences just wind up with terrible grammar that reads like something in a pre-school book. Can you honestly read sentences like "Yuya continues to be hounded by Sora. Sora keeps asking to be Yuya's apprentice so that he can learn how to Pendulum Summon." and not sound like a condescending parent telling a bedtime story? There is no need for there to be one short sentence saying that someone does a thing, followed by an even shorter one telling us what that thing is or why he did the thing, let alone remind us who did the thing as if we forgot who they were two words ago.Wonchop (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

When I edited the episode summaries that aired in English, I corrected the grammar, spelling and punctuation errors. There are no fragmented sentences when I edited the episode summaries. When sentences are shorter, the episode summary as a whole is more readable. It is also more understandable. I can read sentences such as "Yuya continues to be hounded by Sora. Sora keeps asking to be Yuya's apprentice so that he can learn how to Pendulum Summon." It is easier to read those sentences. The grammar is not terrible for those sentences. The edit you did recently makes the sentences too long with many independent or dependent clauses. I see many sentences fused together as one with more than one comma. --Rskyhigh1 04:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rskyhigh1 (talk • contribs)

Just because the English dub is targeted at young children does not mean the Wikipedia article should be, particularly since the majority of readers will be going off the Japanese episodes. Most English speakers who come here are capable of reading full proper sentences, which do, contrary to your belief, contain more than one comma sometimes. Sure, summaries are supposed to be brief, but you can't just split a sentence in any place and expect it to work. It's not Pokémon battle dialogue, you are allowed to describe multiple actions in a single sentence, and if that ends up too long, you think about what can be done to make it shorter instead of splitting it up and reintroducing pronouns, which actually makes it longer and more awkward to read naturally. Take it from someone who a) is from England and knows how to speak actual English, and b) has been editing his article since it started airing Japan. Really, the only thing that needs altering as the dub airs are English episode titles and character names when they become available, as well as the occassional typos and errors that editors will naturally make, not dumbing down the entire thing to look like it needs a watercolor illustration after every sentence. Wonchop (talk) 17:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Thanks for fixing up the Glitter Force page. I know it's a pain to do the Americanized names, but glad it is getting organized! AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:14, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Efforts are being contested, so need your input at the Talk:Smile_Pretty_Cure!#Requested_move_23_December_2015 AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Stop reverting

ok i know you want the page to reflect glitter force rather than smile precure ut until the vote ends stoop reverting my edits because the page name is smile pretty cure atm not Glitter Force

I will revert them if they contain incorrect facts. Precure may well be short for Pretty Cure, but it is used as the official title for this series (it's in the logo, for pete's sake). A lot of articles like Oreimo and WataMote also use the shorthand names when used in an official manner. Wonchop (talk) 16:03, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

i am using the facts i'm just putting the original first

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Glitter Force again

See Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2016_February#Glitter_Force. User is canvassing folks who opposed the name to the move. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:19, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

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You seem to have a great recollection of the plot of Tri, can you help expand the list of digimon films at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Digimon_films#Digimon_Adventure_tri._-_Reunion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Digimon_films#Digimon_Adventure_tri._-_Determination

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Danganronpa 3 Episode List

Hello. First off, I would like to thank you for the creation of and considerable work done to the Danganronpa 3 episode list - it will be sure to help many people in the future, and will perhaps intrigue potential viewers enough for them to check the series out. However, I am both curious and confused as to why my contributions were completely reverted, even the minor corrections in grammar. What exactly was the reason for this? The edits made weren't disruptive to the "moving forward" of the article, and as mentioned in the edit description were done for grammar, syntax and overall consistency; furthermore, some information about the episodes was added and vocabulary given variety and expanded. While I can understand being protective of your creation - especially since you did most of the work - all of this was done in good faith and with an equal amount of love for the series, so if I have made a significant mistake in etiquette please inform me and I will do my best to correct it moving forward. I am new here and am still learning as I go. It would benefit all who visit the article if we can come to a consensus on the issue as quickly and easily as possible. Seeking Ellery (talk) 06:29, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

I just felt like those kinds of changes made things seem a bit more stiff. Particularly when sentences are fragmented from "Someone did a thing because of this thing." to "Someone did a thing. This is because of this thing." It feels more like a storybook for children when sentences are shortened like that (see List of Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V episodes (season 3) for examples of summaries I've written that have been dumbed down by other editors). Also I'm pretty sure semi-colons aren't supposed to be used for things that can be entirely different sentences and there are times when over-explaining a certain element could be considered unneccessary for what should be a summary if it's not completely neccessary to the overall plot. Also as a summary, as opposed to a story, characters are best referred to by either names or pronouns. Those are my two cents at least.Wonchop (talk) 11:20, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply - I can certainly see where you are coming from. Nevertheless, there are a few things I disagree on and I would like to discuss these if you wouldn't mind. Firstly, yes, semicolons can be used when connecting two similar ideas - I've always been told it can replace a period when necessary. As for the sentence structure, fragments - or shortened sentences - are deemed allowable through the use of poetic licence and are likely a result of my time spent in both the creative and technical writing fields. I suppose this is a matter of personal preference, and I do not necessarily agree that such a quirk automatically establishes a childish feel - though under the right conditions I see how it can - as I have used this in a collegiate setting to no ill effect. However, when viewed from the standpoint of a summary, I suppose I can see your point that this would be a detriment, especially given the small space with which to work. With keeping the above critique in mind, then, would you object to my editing of the page provided I stick strictly to fixing grammar and mildly to syntax, while taking my subjective touch out of the equation as much as possible? Your writing is far from bad - it is actually very good - but I feel some things can be slightly improved upon. In the end I just want the page to be the best it can be, and I think this can be achieved through working together! Seeking Ellery (talk) 04:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

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That is who I am, yes. I have a lot of hobbies. Wonchop (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Love Live! Sunshine!! Season 2

Hi, may I know if you watch the live stream of season 2 LLSS and where you get it? thanks.--Hongqilim (talk) 18:00, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hello. I've now nominated Puella Magi Madoka Magica for FA status, would it be okay with you to be a co-nominator of the nomination? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!

Hello, why did you remove the translation of the title "私がモテないのはどう考えてもお前らが悪い!"? Is it because I did not put the source? The source is several dictionaries and the translation of "私がモテないのはどう考えてもお前らが悪い!" is a bit based on the English title "No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!" 11 Tom (talk) 14:34, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

The official title is already a literal translation of the Japanese title, so adding a slightly different translation on top of that is completely redundant. It's not like other series where the licensed name is notably different from the translated Japanese title or any Engrish it might have over there. Wonchop (talk) 14:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Re: Release the Spyce

Wonchop, this is now the second time in a week that you have converted complete sentences in these character descriptions to incomplete sentences. I respectfully ask that you stop doing this, as writing in incomplete sentences is just simply bad grammar and bad writing.--十八 01:13, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

It's a character description, not a picture book. You don't need to start the descriptions off by repeating the name that was literally given to us two lines prior. Not even the Japanese article for this series does this. Wonchop (talk) 01:41, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Japanese and English are vastly different languages, so you can't even compare what's correct in one language and incorrect in another. Besides, you changed sentences that didn't even use their first name back to incomplete sentences, as in this edit with Yuki's, Mei's, Fuu's and Goe's descriptions which start with their codename, in addition to starting the second sentence in each of those descriptions with another incomplete sentence. Although that sort of writing is often used in bullet points, these descriptions are written in prose, and should read as such. Not doing so is just lazy and poor writing.--十八 05:17, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

In literally any other character description, the big bolded name serves as the "I am/This is" of an introductory sentence, so repeating the name in the first sentence of the description is redundant. It's the difference between saying "This is Juhachi. Juhachi is a Wikipedia editor." and "This is Juhachi. A Wikipedia editor." The latter just comes off as less condescending than the former. Every sentence after can follow proper prose or whatever, but all the first sentence needs to be is a quick description of who we just introduced (the exception being if you were to include two different characters in one listing and you need to specify which). On a sidenote, you can probably use the extra2=/ doohickey to add the codenames next to their names to keep the descriptions more focused. Wonchop (talk) 11:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Even if the first names aren't repeated, a "He is..." / "She is..." should preface the first sentence. Not including at least that creates a sentence fragment. Not that I agree with you about the bolded names serving that role. I see the bolded names as essentially headers for these characters, and the sentence 2 lines below it is the start of a prose statement about the character that the header indicates. Other articles like List of Naruto characters (an FA) just use larger headers to divide characters, but it's essentially the same concept, hence why the first sentences in each of the sections of that article are not fragments, and indeed, repeat the name the header signifies at the beginning of each first sentence.--十八 08:55, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

It's not a Word document that must obey to the grammatical standards of a googly-eyed paperclip. It's a description of what something is, and people just like to be told what it is regardless of sentence fragments or whatever. When you throw in this "he/she is" stuff at the beginning, it makes things look kind of repetitive since you're starting every paragraph with the same set of words (like if you're writing episode summaries and begin every episode with "As..."). More than anything else, Wikipedia is about presenting the facts as simply and precisely as possible while respecting the intelligence of those who read them. Wonchop (talk) 13:29, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

So then even an FA-level standard of writing is not good enough for the rest of Wikipedia to live up to? I would really love to see you try to use that sort of argument in an FAC and see what kind of comments you get about using sentence fragments in what is clearly meant to be prose and not a series of bullet points. Every sentence of prose should independently be written in proper grammar. There would be no getting around that in an FAC. Even if this article isn't even close to being featured, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to at least write in a professional manner, as given by the standard at WP:FA? that all articles should at least attempt to try to live up to: "well-written: its prose is engaging and of a professional standard".--十八 22:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Every time an article I've worked on has had someone try to make it more "FA-level", it always came off as stiff or forced and less interesting to read, because all they're doing is forcing in extra words to try and make it seem more fancy. It's padding for the sake of padding. I just do things that feel more appropriate to someone just looking for information while remaining visually appealing. I think if you really wanna make the first sentences work in prose, then you should at least vary how they're written so they don't all start with "Person is" (eg. A second-year student at Sorasaki High School, Momo wishes to protect her hometown like her late police officer father did.) Just do something to eliminate that vertical repetitiveness. Wonchop (talk) 11:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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New characters page

Can you create a new character's page of That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime? And thanks for creating that page. Hope you will consider my request. Can I make a suggestion? Please clear unnecessary or outdated conversations from your talk page. It is pretty hard to locate locate this conversation. Sincerely, Masum Reza (talk) 03:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

That sounds like being desperate? You can group them up under sub-sections. Like at Hinomaru Sumo, e.g. under Rimuru put in ===Rimuru's allies=== (or a similar word spelling) and every character that are the characters' allies or friends. Then any-other ones that are left out you can put in what-ever name it fits in. Like who are the listed demon lords under ===Demon Lords=== and expand from there. But there are some characters that hasn't shown up yet. And have too little info on. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I guess you are right. But still the characters list is pretty much big. I will keep your words in mind and do as you suggested. Thanks for your kind advise. Can I ask you something User:Tainted-wingsz? It might be kinda rude but are you a talk page stalker or something like that? Masum Reza (talk) 21:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

On the left side of the wiki, there's the "Interaction" and under it has "Recent changes". Any edit that happens will get notified there. And any one can be looking at who edited here and there. Then they can look at the user's name at what page/ article they edited at, and a link to their talk page. That is a bit similar to a "watch-page". By pressing the "star" book-mark on any page/ article at the top. Next to "view history." You will add that to your "watch-page". And there's some options to over look at, from there. Which you will get notified at. Like this sequence; Person A changes a sentence to... Then person B has gotten notified about it and fixed the spelling error, or other things. As a few moments has gone by, or an hour later, etc. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 23:34, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining it to me Tainted-wingz. Another thing I edited That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime wiki page just as you suggested. Please take your time to review it. If you see any error or mistakes, correct my edits. Thanks. Sincerely, Masum Reza (talk) 16:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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sources for Sega Genesis Mini

Hi!
Do you have a source for this text that you included on Sega Genesis Mini:

can be played in either the original 4:3 ratio or cropped 16:9 widescreen, with HUD elements modified to fit onto the screen

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Updated with source from Destructoid. Wonchop (talk) 00:15, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Dave the Diver. Please stop adding unsourced gameplay sections. The details in the gameplay section need to be properly sourced. Details not mentioned in the sources should not be added. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Information is sourced from the reviews already included. Please cross reference it properly before jumping to conclusions, and if there's a specific detail that is not included, add a citation needed tag or just remove that part so that appropriate sources can be found instead of reverting the whole thing.Wonchop (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: a level 4 final warning for a senior editor making an edit? Jay 💬 10:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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