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Personal attack warning

Concerning this post: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. AnnH ♫ 10:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Your edits on Adolf Hitler - 3rr warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Agathoclea 07:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Anti-semitic posts on Talk:Adolf Hitler

I find your anti-semitic remarks and neo-Nazi posturing on this page very out of line with Wikipedia. Can you please at least have the courage to sign and date your posts using four tildes (MarkThomas 21:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)). This will also help people click through to the warnings on this page. If you persist I will ask that you be permanently blocked from using Wikipedia. Thanks. MarkThomas 21:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Mediation -- Adolf Hitler

Are you still interested in proceeding with Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-18 Hitler? Alan.ca 06:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I am. Xanon 10:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I have accepted your case, please edit it and be more specific on all direct parties involved. Please also provide your evidence and present your case under discussion. Somitho 22:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Somitho, thank you ve ry muchfor agreeing to help me out. The main, general issue is in the way Hitler is portrayed - my opponents continue to insist he was evil, while I think he was no more than a radical ultranationalist. I pretty much gave up on trying to convince them, but from the practical perspective, the article still shouldn't fail to reflect my views. I quote: "One of Wikipedia's core policies is that articles must be written from a "neutral point of view", presenting all note-worthy perspectives on an issue along with the evidence supporting them. The project also forbids the use of original research. Wikipedia articles do not attempt to determine an objective truth on their subjects, but rather to describe them impartially from all significant viewpoints." Therefore, what they are doing by reverting my edits goes against Wikipedia's policies.

To be more specific, we are currently debating the intro. There the source of disagreement is the exact moment WWII began. You see, there wasn't a voice belonging to a supernatural omniscient being that announced "World War Two has begun at this precise time!" No, the time WWII began is decided upon by historians and there isn't a general consensus; a fact which my opponents are trying hard to ignore in order to present only the version that suits their beliefs. Like any fight, WWII began as a process.

This is what http://americanhistory.about.com/od/worldwarii/a/wwiioverview.htm had to say about it: "The Road to War The actual war in Europe itself began with a series of events: Germany took Austria (1938) and the Sudtenland (1938) The Munich Pact was created (1938) with England and France agreeing to allow Hitler to keep the Sudtenland as long as no further expansion occurred. Hitler and Mussolini created the Rome-Berlin Axis military alliance to last 10 years (1939) Japan entered an alliance with Germany and Italy (1939) The Moscow-Berlin Pact occurred promising nonaggression between the two powers (1939) Hitler invaded Poland (1939) England and France declared war on Germany (September 30, 1939)."

This is my version of a part of the intro. It presents a compromise between my opinion and theirs. Please read it and try to determine if it's biased or flawed in any way. "With the establishment of a restructured economy, a rearmed military, and a totalitarian fascist dictatorship, Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy with the intention of expanding German Lebensraum ("living space"). After he ordered the invasion Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany. This conflict became known as World War II."

Now this is what my opponents want to remain in place. "With the establishment of a restructured economy, a rearmed military, and a totalitarian or fascist dictatorship, Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy with the intention of expanding German Lebensraum ("living space"), which triggered World War II when Germany invaded Poland." Please note the "Hitler... aggressive... triggered World War Two" implicit blame distribution.

P.S. I don't know what else there is to be said about the parties involved. Some people just posted one short sentence and left the discussion be. I think I have listed everyone whose contribution was significant. Xanon 03:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)