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I've also moved the draft back to Draft:Pyle stops. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

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Draft:Pyle stop

Hi Yahia.Moktar, I have looked at your draft for Pyle stop and would like to see it get into article space as a full article, rather than merge it into one of the decompression articles, which are getting a bit long. I asked Onel5969 where the problem is seen to lie, and their comment was that too much is unreferenced. I am going to take the liberty of adding {{citation needed}} to all the statements that are likely to be challenged, and if you can come up with acceptable references it should be possible to get the draft passed. Also if I find anything useful I will add it. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 12:25, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Peter (Southwood)

Excellent, I am happy to know this from you, as I became totally disappointed since the article got suspended in a deadline, and I stopped writing since then in English Wikipedia!! Great, just feel absolutely free to add {{citation needed}} and modify as much as it requires to get endorsed, then inform me (here) to take any remaining work to find out the pending citations before re-submission. I will be glad when it gets endorsed as an article, and then afterwards, I will need your suggestion for the next required dive-related topic to compile. I have the contact email of Richard Pyle if you need it. Cheers, --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 12:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

I have asked for references at a few places in the draft, I hope they are not too difficult to find. You may find something useful on the Rubicon Research Repository, and their reference materials are probably all either acceptable or better. Good luck, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 13:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Try this link http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/xmlui/search?query=Pyle+stop&submit=Go Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 13:09, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Peter (Southwood)

Please have a look now. I added the required citations, and left your {{citation needed}} for reference till I received your feedback. Hopes it goes this time. --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 07:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I will be away on business until Friday night, so may not get an opportunity to take a proper look for a few days.

Would you prefer me to make suggestions for improvements or just go ahead and make them in the draft? You can always modify or revert if you don't like them. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 08:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Would be excellent if you could go ahead and modify the draft or even change it totally, our aim is to get a useful article on this subject. Thanks Peter (Southwood). --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 08:11, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do so. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 14:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi again Peter (Southwood). I am not sure if this is ok or no: we wanted to create an independent page titled "Pyle Stop". It has been created under the name of Pyle stop (Decompression) which is ok, but I am not quite sure about why I received this Speedy Deletion message for? here: Click here. --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 07:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Yahia.Moktar, The person who moved the draft into article space could not use Pyle stop as the name as that is already in use for a redirect. They moved it to Pyle stop (Decompression theory which is both slightly inappropriate as it is more a practical issue than theory, and a typographical error, as the closing bracket is missing. I moved it to the current location Pyle stop (Decompression) which is a bit better and an acceptable alternative search string. I have requested that the current redirect page Pyle stop be speedily deleted so the name can be available for the article now at Pyle stop (Decompression), which can then be moved to Pyle stop, where it belongs, as there is no ambiguity, and the current page will become a redirect. It is just administrative details which need admin tools which we do not have. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 09:24, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

It looks like it has been sorted out. Article is now at Pyle stop. Mission accomplished ;-) You are welcome to approach me to collaborate on other diving articles. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 11:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Peter (Southwood). Nice to see the page functional, and there are even some nice additions and a new diagram added to it :) Excellent. I am ready to start the next "diving" article, what are your suggestions? --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

What seems interesting to you? • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 17:56, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Peter (Southwood), I am interrested in SCUBA, BSAC, Marine life, research,.. and maybe more. I may go this time for " Robert D. Workman", as I saw this article is requested. Shall I take it or some other subject? --Yahia.Mokhtar (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

If the subject interests you, go for it. Workman was one of the major decompression researchers, so establishing notability should not be a problem. You could start by putting together a list of publications. A lot of them will be at Rubicon Research Repository. If you find any interesting information on other diving subjects while researching Workman. either add it to a relevant article or make a note for future articles. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 06:33, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

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Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from Arabic to English Wikipedia?

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This would involve evaluating a translated article on English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original Arabic article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:

There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including Arabic , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from Arabic. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.

If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:

• Amdiana (Jayshan)
• Al-Jirdami
• Dawa'er Hob: Circles of Love
• Rasm Al-Nafl

All you have to do, is compare the English article to the Arabic article, and mark it "Pass" or "Fail" (templates {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} may be useful). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then marking it "Pass", that's even better, but it isn't required.)

If you can help, please let me know. Thanks! Mathglot (talk) 09:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Great! Let me know from where to start, or pass me a list of affected articles. Most probably I would fix them one-by-one. --Yahia (talk) 10:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your reply. Can you start with the five listed above? We have more of them, if you'd like a longer list. Mathglot (talk) 10:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

@Mathglot: the four articles are fixed. Show me the full list please. Thanks --Yahia (talk) 18:37, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Wow, that's wonderful, thank you! The full list is below. (Please ignore the numbers on the left; that's just to help us report your results.) I've marked the four above that you've already looked at "Pass" to indicate your approval. As you go through the list, you can mark them using the templates {{pass}} and {{fail}} if you like, but you can just use your own words ("good/bad", "okay/no good") if you prefer. For the ones that fail, if you want to add a few words of commentary indicating what's wrong with the translation, that would be helpful, but it's not necessary. You can put that right on the same line with the "Fail" marker.

List of articles to check for accuracy of translation from Arabic

23. Ahmed El-Fishawy ✓ Pass -> -> The article is not entirely translated. Fixed the translated part. 36. Amr Saad ✓ Pass 47. Hassan Hosny ✓ Pass -> The article is not entirely translated. Fixed the translated part. 180. Abdul Razzak Abdul Wahid 500. Anjara ✓ Pass -> The article is not entirely translated. Fixed the translated part. 601. Qanibay al-Rahman Mosque 727. Salman bin Yousuf Al Dossary 1379. Leila Alaoui 1467. Al-Fajaa  Redundant -> Redirected to existing article Al-Fajaa (Mallah), and fixed it instead. Now ✓ Pass. 1517. Al-Mekrab ✓ Pass -> Linked the page to the Arabic article. 1520. College Al-hussein Mosque  Review but I am working on fixing the translation. Now a redirect ->Al-Hussein College Mosque 1647. Salman Natour ✓ Pass - The entire article is not translated, however, the translated part is correct. 1883. Suffah  Partly done -> Linked the article's "ENGLISH and TURKISH" pages to the remaining group of articles in Arabic and other languages. 1886. Arab Liberal Federation ✓ Pass 2036. Maasara ✓ Pass 2051. Bani Mansour ✓ Pass 2052. Ein Al-Hussen ✓ Pass Corrected name from Arabic. Now a redirect ->Ain Hussain. 2053. Al-Rawda, Yemen ✓ Pass 2063. Amdiana (Jayshan) ✓ Pass Corrected name from Arabic. Now a redirect ->Amdibyana (Jayshan). 2302. Al-Jirdami ✓ Pass 2405. Dawa'er Hob: Circles of Love ✓ Pass 3190. Rasm Al-Nafl ✓ Pass

Thanks so much for doing this, it's really great that you can help. If it looks like too much work, please don't feel that you have to fix all these; it's fine just to mark them "Pass"/"Fail". But if you want to fix them as well, it's much appreciated. Mathglot (talk) 19:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Mathglot: this is regarding the above article: 1520 College Al-hussein Mosque. The article's name is not translated correctly and I need your advice to coin a proper one. A "high school" named "Al-Hussein's High school college" was built in 1949, then a mosque (the article's subject) was built next to it later in 1971. The Mosque took his name literally as: "The mosque of Al-Hussein's College". The transliterated name would be "Masjed Colliyat Al-Hussein". I am not sure (linguistic wise) how to translate the name:

1. would it be: "Al-Hussein College Mosque".
2. or, "Al-Hussein's College Mosque".
3. or, "Al-Hussein College's Mosque".
4. or, "Al-Hussein's College's Mosque".

Which name do you think should we select? The literally , transliterated or the translated? --Yahia (talk) 06:49, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Yahia, Thank you for your question. I would choose #1, "Al-Hussein College Mosque."

The typical way to do this in English is to pile all the adjectives and adjectival nouns in the beginning, and no possessives, with the main topic noun in last position—the exact opposite of French for example.

One of the reasons French used to be the international language of diplomacy, is its relative unambiguity of expression, whereas English sometimes admits of ambiguity. For example, in #1, an English speaker could parse that as:

• a "college mosque" named after Al Hussein

or as:

• a mosque belonging to "Al Hussein College"

whereas French would have two different ways of saying this. As a native speaker of English, when you say, "Al-Hussein College Mosque," I would understand this as the 2nd bullet item, which I understand you to say is the correct interpretation. (In either case, no possessives.)

One thing that surprises me here is the use of the hyphen after the definite article "Al". This is a transliteration-stylistic question, not a grammatical one, and different English sources can have different style guides with different sets of rules about such things. I'll check tomorrow to verify, but it would appear that Wikipedia style is to hyphenate after "Al", which is somewhat of a surprise to me, as I do not hyphenate "Al Ahram" or "Al Qahira". Mathglot (talk) 08:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for all the ones you've been doing; I'm adding your evaluations to the project. There's another batch now, would you like to take a look at some of them? Mathglot (talk) 09:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Of course, let me have a look at the new batch, however, I am still working on Suffah.

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