krill
edithallo Yakuzai! thank you for your comment. Please help us and change bad language. I am German and know my English is rotten - take care Uwe Kils 21:20, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
- thank you, Yakuzai, I will work on it by sarah ! Uwe Kils 23:28, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
thank you everybody
editI would like to express my thanks to everybody helping in the nomination of Antarctic krill. I think 3 1/2 supports and a long long discussion are an unexpected and great outcome for a critter so remote and unknown - you should see how little and poor Antarctic krill is represented in Encarta and Britannica - this is the best reviewed and resourced general article of krill we know of - it is impossible to fullfill all wishes at the same time - this is what we did with our all product peer review stamp to qualify this stage of the article for academic exercises, especially for our dreams of a Virtual university within Wikiversity - good luck to you all Uwe Kils 21:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
hallo Yakuzai - thank you for the friendly words - you did a great job too - can't you make a user page so we know with whom we cooperate? where are you located? Uwe Kils 00:23, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
invitation academic boad
editHallo Yakuzai - may I invite you to join an academic board we are proposing? see some thoughts, and maybe add to the discussion and vote, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Virtual_University - regards Uwe Kils 17:47, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
hallo from Uwe
editthank you for the kind words, it feels good if there are responses. You can vote on the featured page Uwe Kils 22:54, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
- thanks for the vote - I also think its great to work so fast all over the world now Uwe Kils 23:25, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
- I sent your ice algae article to a colleague of mine who is an expert - can you tell us at least from what country you are, please (I guess Japan), maybe what background? Uwe Kils 23:29, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
- thanks for the vote - I also think its great to work so fast all over the world now Uwe Kils 23:25, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
biomass krill
edit- no, it is the growth of biomass over a year - amazingly high, isn't it - what I read over my life about krill and our in situ imaging of schools my personal oppinion is that the biomass numbers are even an underestimation.Uwe Kils 20:14, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
herring and eel
edithallo Yakuzai! we now work on Atlantic herring and Eel reproduction - if you have some time it would be great if you could help with the language - hallo across the ocean Uwe Kils 13:38, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
Pics
editHello Uwe. It would be a joy to contribute to both articles that you mentioned.
Two questions:
1. do you or your colleagues have any pictures of exuvaie that you would like to upload to illustrate the short article on Exuvia ? It doesn't matter if it is a picture of insect, arachnid or crustacean exuvia.
2. Will you be expanding the article on Antarctic Paradox at some point in future? I think that could be an interesting article.
Thank you Yakuzai 21:31, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Hallo Yakuzai! Great! Yes, I just searched the slide out, my slide scanner is down IEEE!!! interface - horrible - have to go to a friend, have a beatifull exuvia from krill taken under water, all details visible. And I will work on the Paradox - take care Uwe Kils 21:41, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
- exuvia image is up, have to make it small soon - isn't that an amazing structure? Uwe Kils 23:45, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
- see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Krilleyekils - amazing what we can create if we work together across all boarders and ages - we want to make more such pages and imagery for use in this http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Ozeanographie/kurse/ where we will use stamps like this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antarctic_krill&oldid=15415094 Uwe Kils 02:12, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Ah - you are back! how was your weekend? good beer in London? the krill article became featured - look at your userpage - now they translate him to Danish and will put it on the frontpage - than my family can see it - best greetings Uwe Kils June 28, 2005 17:49 (UTC)
- I send the article now also to my "doctor father" Gotthilf Hempel, who is one of the biggest players in krill and Antarctic sciences still, works online every day, and asked him for comments and addons - I hope he likes it, he is very sceptical of Wikis beeing an editor of 3 traditional paper jounals, but he is also very engaged in third world education, and I try to convince him to work with us for free education - his jounals are very, very, very expensive, and the online issues need a dollar password Uwe Kils June 28, 2005 18:15 (UTC)
- Ah - you are back! how was your weekend? good beer in London? the krill article became featured - look at your userpage - now they translate him to Danish and will put it on the frontpage - than my family can see it - best greetings Uwe Kils June 28, 2005 17:49 (UTC)
- see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Krilleyekils - amazing what we can create if we work together across all boarders and ages - we want to make more such pages and imagery for use in this http://de.wikiversity.org/wiki/Ozeanographie/kurse/ where we will use stamps like this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antarctic_krill&oldid=15415094 Uwe Kils 02:12, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
- exuvia image is up, have to make it small soon - isn't that an amazing structure? Uwe Kils 23:45, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
- Hallo Yakuzai! Great! Yes, I just searched the slide out, my slide scanner is down IEEE!!! interface - horrible - have to go to a friend, have a beatifull exuvia from krill taken under water, all details visible. And I will work on the Paradox - take care Uwe Kils 21:41, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I am Siga, working on German and Greek Wikipedia. I was just searching the net with the word exuvia and thus finding this place. I am also writing on an article of exuvia and I wanted to tell you, that I created already an article exuvia with pictures in Commons. When I have finished, I will put the link in the english aricle (el:....)I think it most interesting, what exuviae are used for. I have no account here, therfore you will only see my IP, but you can find me with the name Siga in Commons, german and greek Wikipedia --84.158.227.4 14:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- The article in Commons is exuviae, I added already the greek page to the english and I have now an own account --SigaE 09:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
herring project
edit- good idea, maybe it is better when you ask them - tax: we do it this way http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=24&genusname=Clupea&speciesname=harengus%20harengus fishbase is made by a student of our Kiel group, now visited by 11 million a month, 1000 cooperators - amazing what the web can produce - there is also a lot of refs Uwe Kils June 28, 2005 20:52 (UTC)
Hi Uwe
editJust made some grammatical adjustments to the article about your father. He sounds like a very interesting person as are you. It would be great if he would take a serious look at Wikipedia. The more professional scientists we get onboard the better!
As i know that you are trying to get others of your professional standing involved in this project i would like to offer as a member of the public some thoughts for those who are skeptical of such a project.
All too often the general public is left out of contributing to discussions of scientific importance as we are considered by the scientific community in general to be ignorant and unqualified to engage in any meaningful dialogue about scientific issues of importance. If indeed the assumption of ignorance is true then in my opinion it is a fault of the mediums in which scientific knowledge and datum is transmitted i.e. specialist publications, newspapers, television and to a lesser extent radio. These mediums offer no chance of a dialogue to develop between the general public and the specialist scientist. Instead they are in the case of T.V., newspaper and radio the transmitters of spoon fed facts that we have no control over and renders arbritrary those facts in relation to the world we live in.
However with a medium such as the internet and a project such as wikipedia their thus arises a new dynamic between the learned and the layman in that a person with no knowledge of a specialist subject can enter into a dialogue with a specialist and comment on what has been written offering advice to elucidate and make clearer the subject for the general reader. The empowerment that is garnered from this relationship cannot be underestimated as it can have in my opinion many side benefits such as a less alienated relationship to scientific knowledge, a greater appreciation of the information being conveyed, a willingness to actively learn more about the subject you have been involved with.
If scientists truely want to engage with the public and have what they say be understood then they must actively get involved in having a dialogue with them, Wikipedia in my opinion and experience to date is a great opportunity to do this. Yakuzai 1 July 2005 00:36 (UTC)
Hallo Yakuzai!
edit- Thank you for your long and very good message and the nice words - I searched the dialog with you and Lupo and Saleman etc. I tried my whole life to engage with the public, had the first web server in Kiel University, and most of my publications everybody can read free on the web since 1993. We had already 1993 from my group in Kiel a wiki-like structure where all scientists working on fish could add/edit information on our database over the Internet (without password!), funded by VOLKSWAGEN in a project "communication", what hatched later fishbase for many years the largest biodatabase on the planet, until another student of my US group made OBIS, combining 5 million sites (the wiki was invented independently in many places of the world, much before 1995 as often cited, only the word came with Ward Cunningham, same with html.
- I initiated the public "Aquarium Talks" in Kiel, where scientists presented their field in the Aquarium of the Institut fuer Meereskunde in Kiel for free and hold the first lecture, was filled to the last seat and a big success since. I often had schoolclasses and Kindergarten in my labs, then founded the "Kinder University" in Flensburg, to show children oceanography, raised a lot of donations from wealthy companies for this (by the way: we used a lot of music to make it more interesting, like showing on an oscilloscope the waves of my guitarr and saxophone in teaching waves mathematics - and often ended up in a jam session). After I received three of the highest science awards in Germany for my Antarctica works I turned to publicize marine pollution and Oxygen_depletion, showing underwater video of dying fish in the primetime television slots. The corrupt director of my institute (he worked privately for the polluters for big, big money, showing that the black sludges were "harmless" and got them qualified as "construction material") in a billion dollar project started 9 legal actions against me. I lost everything I had, no scientist helped me, only laymen following the debakel in the news, donating money for my defense, but the other side with 9 lawers were too mighty. I did this for the public, leaving my dreamland Antarctica.
- I have visited countries where the universities have no account with the expensive publishing tycoons (they can not even read Science or Nature online), where the students can not buy all books or images, so I think the web is just a great emerging chance for the third world (and also for the extensive slums in the USA) - to get better access to the knowlede collected by homo sapiens over millions of years, and Wikipedia is a fine vehicle, especially if laymen bring our science "gelaber" into understandable sentences. My family has the HAGEMANN education company, and I was offered many years ago the CEO, but declined. One set of 10 everheads sells for 100 dollars, and especially the sheiks in Kuwait and English private schools buy such like crazy. Now teachers can make slides from the web. The E . s. article we made is a great example how international cooperation can produce interesting and understandable topics. I know that Antarctic krill is often used by schools and universities to fascinate the learners, my university krill-servers had 2 million hits over 10 years, and we got hundredth of letters. The article is under way to get translated to Danish by a biologist, and as soon as the photos are on commons she will try to put it on the main page there. Danmark - the home of my ancestors - is just great in bringing education to the masses, with fine fine libraries and lots of networked computers from the beginning - astounding how many wikipedia pages this small country has produced, even Jimbo was there. Here is a view. Today my main goal is not to fascinate about krill, but to awake students and hopefully politicians to the astonisching filtering structures developed by many ocean organism, which collect much of the human toxic discharge so these substances land back on our plate particle_(ecology) killing people by the millions with cancer. Believe it or not, many of my colleagues even do not know much about it.
- I think if more colleagues will join, like you also write would be good, this can become a fine future academic teaching tool, free for all. I propose since years the ideas of a "Virtual University", like Hempel does, some thoughts are still here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kils/Virtual_University - but not many in Wikipedia liked our activities, voted for deletion, not notable - I think such motions are extremely notable. For such activities it would be imminent to attract participating faculty with admin status, so they are able to protect forked off content and publication texts or academic credentials. My request in Wikipedia was declined, some (most without identity) argued that i did too much erasing of pornographic content when I was sysop years ago (like a handbook type or the advertisement for a cream). Maybe it takes some time, maybe a new class of sysops (I am sysops in other wikis and projects, all invited).
- Regarding participation of more colleagues, which since 2003 I try to trigger, you can send me your telphone number via kils@imcs.rutgers.edu and I call you. I can also give you then a link about the incredible story of the destruction of my labs. Here you can see some of our network: user:vikings - best greetings to London Uwe Kils July 1, 2005 13:32 (UTC)
- I think it is great to be within Wikipedia - to my knowledge it is -by far- the biggest knowledge structure, I found it recently more precise, extensive and better illustrated than Britannica and Webster and Encarta and Brockhaus on many articles we checked (all biological), I am certain that the content will survive forever, and if Jimbo can/will not longer carry it other bilionaires will pick up the existing and carry on, as it is mirrored already now manyfold, like wikinfo - the software is free, the content is free, and harddrives get cheaper and faster every month, and the web gets faster and cheaper every year. In Germany they have made a CD already - so it makes sence for all of us to put our work into it for the benefit of the next generation and the non-millionair children of the whole world.
- Regarding participation of more colleagues, which since 2003 I try to trigger, you can send me your telphone number via kils@imcs.rutgers.edu and I call you. I can also give you then a link about the incredible story of the destruction of my labs. Here you can see some of our network: user:vikings - best greetings to London Uwe Kils July 1, 2005 13:32 (UTC)
- PS.: Gotthilf Hempel is not my father, he is what we call my "doctor father", I made my phd with him - he is an incredable person, still working every day, I send him the Krill article and asked him to edit and add - hope he will do that (he is editor of three traditional paper jounals). Here is another image showing yolk for Lupo - click in the image twice Uwe Kils July 1, 2005 13:36 (UTC)
krill on main page n Danmark
edithallo Yakuzai! today our antarctic krill is on the main page in Danmark (where my roots are!) http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forside
our krill on mainpage today
edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/July_17%2C_2005 Uwe Kils 02:04, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
External links
editHi. I suggest you do not insert text of the form
until you get consensus on it, that is agreement from other users. Otherwise you may end up doing a lot of work which can end up reverted.
And by the way, it should be "External links" with small "l", per the manual of style.
You can reply here if you have any comments. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- And by the way, you should use an edit summary when you contribute. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
FAR notice
editI have nominated Antarctic krill for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.-- Cirt (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)