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You may have missed my question and ping. Can you tell me what led you to edit the article Woman today? Some bit of news, a video, a tweet, a forum post? Something? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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I've removed this comment. Under no circumstances should you speculate that an article subject "looks like a man", nor should you assume that someone you think looks masculine is therefore a trans woman. This is incredibly inappropriate, both for Wikipedia discussion (where it runs afoul of the strict policies on writing about living people), and also in general (as it reflects ignorant conceptions about gender and the diversity of human bodies). For an accessible rundown on how to respectfully speak about transgender people (something editors are expected to at least attempt, when contributing to this topic area), I invite you to check out The Radical Copyeditor’s Style Guide for Writing About Transgender People. Other such resources are organized at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Gender identity § Other style guides. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 18:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

OK. I didn't mean to hurt anyone.

I think the image should be replaced so it doesn't cause any controversy that wastes people's time. -- YavBav09 (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Not to unduly repeat others, but where did you hear about this? Clearly this made the rounds somewhere on the internet. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:56, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

My best guess is residue from last month where a sockpuppet briefly replaced the image lead with Rachel Levine, presumably as a form of concern trolling, before being quickly reverted. I actually had a hand in the revert Special:Diff/1163913070 although I don't remember it happening. The resulting screenshot of that article version was of course circulated by the usual reactionaries. –RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 19:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

• I'm going to go a bit farther. The subject of that photo, Agnes Ngieng, is an identifiable living person. If you continue to speculate about her private medical details, including with "just asking questions" comments to the effect of "if she's trans", you may be subject to administrative sanctions under the BLP policy and/or the contentious topics for gender mentioned above. Please note that the BLP topic area is also a contentious topic. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 21:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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