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Since you're neutral and a Yulia supporter, I figured you'd be good to ask to review this edit warring. I've been told not to revert it but...it seems egregiousto me to remove journal articles and insert stuff like "anti-semitism is their core position" and that they are "rooted in nazi-collaboration" --Львівське (говорити) 01:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Did my best to make it more NPOV; must admit the section was ready for improvement months before... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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euromaidan

what do you think of alex g's recent edits? I'm worried the article will start to get really POVy / original research laden. We just gutted so much out to clean things up and make it simpler for readers, and new sections on obscure topics are being made daily...--Львівське (говорити) 21:37, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry... Have some thinking about that & real life stuff to do now. I'll get back to you on this! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry was not of much help (currently I don't have much time to spend on Wikipedia); but I'm glad you and Երևանցի did the right things to solve your above mentioned problem. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

no problem! --Львівське (говорити) 18:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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RfC Lemkos

Just wondering if I can get an outside opinion on this argument. Essentially, a user wants to combine people in Poland who self-identify as 'Lemko' as 'Rusyn', despite what the census actually says. I've provided sources with quotes describing the ethnonym situation but to no avail. If you have time to check it out, thanks in advance. --Львівське (говорити) 04:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Must say that I don't really care about ethnicities (I consider myself a territorial nationalist). But will give it a look. Sorry that I'm not so involved in editing the Euromaidan-articles anymore. I felt I got a bit obsessive here on Wikipedia... So I am going back to WikiOgring for a while... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry; I can not make a valuable contribution to the discussion... I basicly agree with μηδείς contribution/remark of 14 February 2014. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

• I am not trying to merge the articles Lemko or Hutsul or Rusnak or Carpathian Ruthenia with Rusyn peopleor anything else. The simple point is that these group do all fall together as one ethnicity speaking a common language with mutually intelligible dialects closer to each other than and distinct from Standard Slovak, Polish, Byelorussian or Ukrainian. We need an article for that broader group, and the article in question is that article as far as I can tell. Unless we are simply denying there is such a people? Or saying there is a better article to cover the wider group? μηδείς (talk) 18:40, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Aleksandr Musienko

Yulia Romero, please, could you give more detailed reason for deletion of information on Musienko. He is an expert of the Russian Spetsnaz and he, of course, does not have anything to do with Putin. It is not all about Putin. The purpose of the information is to portray the background of hostilities and where they might be coming from. "There is no fire without smoke". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

In interview to Pravda.ru, Russian Colonel of GRU Spetsnaz (in reserves) Aleksandr Musienko that the conflict can only be solved by means of force. In his interview Musienko stated that Ukraine proved that it is cannot exist as an independent sovereign state.

I have answered above question at Talk:February_2014_Euromaidan_riots#Pravda._ru_and_Colonel_Musienko. Please concentrate the discussion there now. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

for your thanks! I looked up Oscar Romero after seeing you page some time ago, by the way, and was very interested! -Darouet (talk) 21:51, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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IP vandal at 2014 Ukrainian revolution

I've reported that IP to WP:AIV. An admin should look into it shortly. --ElHef (Meep?) 02:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks; I know now what to do in the future! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:23, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Crimea/Sevastopol conflict new article?

What do you think? The revolution is over and this seems like its own monster thats going to blow up in content and require a split soon --Львівське (говорити) 17:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Agree! Also because the current 2014_Ukrainian_revolution#Southern_Ukraine_and_Crimea is misleading... Besides a small demonstration in Odesa nothing seems to be happening in Southern Ukraine... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:05, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I removed Odessa from the body of the article since its nothing big. Just crimea now.

btw can you check out the yanukovych article? I'm being accused of bad faith edits / COI for saying he was reported to be in crimea - every news source and officials say he's in crimea at the very least now. I don't want to get into some war over common knowledge stuff that's freely available. I'm asking since I'm sure you've read the news too lol --Львівське (говорити) 21:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry; after cleaning up 2014 Crimean protests I am Wikibonked... I also must admit I am not interested in rumours about Yanu's "current road trip". I have chosen not to edit about that till he has been found... And I prefer to stay doing that.... Mainly because the current stuff going on in Ukraine costs me loads of free time anyway.... I have to sleep as well you know... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 00:55, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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Tymoshenko

Well you're probably not thanking me now that I've removed some of your content! The Yanukovych sequence of events is absolutely important, I'm just not sure it belongs in the opening paragraphs, which I'd like to talk mostly about Tymoshenko. If you disagree, go ahead and revert me and we can discuss on the talk page. My only goal is to improve the article and I don't mean to step on your toes. Thanks. Kendall-K1 (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

I just did thank you... . I was actually thinking of doing the same edit before you did it. Leads should only summarize the article indeed. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Rel your contributions to Victor Yanukovych

Thanks for all your current updates to the VY article!

In his press conference in Rostov-on-Don on 28 February, Yanukovych stated that all his possessions had been legally declared and accounted for.[191] The same day Swiss and Austrian authorities blocked the assets of Yanukovych and his associates, and launched a corruption probe.[15]

Really nice juxtaposition/arrangement of info there IMO.  :-) Paavo273 (talk) 05:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

TB - Ukrainians

Hi Yulia. I'm very busy, so it's better you manage and finish that consensus about Milla. Thanks. Zyma (talk) 03:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Situation in the Ukraie

Hello,

I saw you are very active writing about Ukraine. I would like to share with you a article I wrote about the situation in the Ukraine: [1]

It's a new blog and I will publish more on the topic. Do you think you could write your opinion there and help spread it?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.192.156 (talk) 08:39, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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Shche ne vmerla Ukraina

Just a heads up, but a user is attempting to rewrite the aritcle on the anthem saying it's no longer called Shche ne vmerla Ukraina but "State Anthem of Ukraine", and a bunch of other edits in the middle. Already moved the page and I can't move it back without an admin...--Львівське (говорити) 17:32, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry; I am not an expert on this song.... + I am a bit busy at the moment. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Kherson in Pro-Russian Protests Article

Hi, I am just wondering as to why you have removed Kherson from the regions where protests have occurred and why this reference to the Kherson protests has been deleted [2]. Thanks, Dapiks (talk) 20:56, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I (Yulia Romero); did not do so.... In fact I was wondering why that had happened too.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry. I just noticed that on the Ukrainian version and the Russian version, Kherson still shows up as a place where protests occurred. Maybe an idea to illustrate these protests better would be to just have the same map as on those wikis instead of the whole region. After all, just because a protests occurs in a provincial capital, it does not mean the entire region is protesting against the central government. Dapiks (talk) 21:03, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

That seems a good idea; but I think not all places with protests are on that map... According to http://novosti.dn.ua/news/ there have been small protests in other Donestsk Oblast towns then Donetsk.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Pro-Russia protest map

I redid the map to properly give weight. It's being reverted now. I'd appreciate your input. --Львівське (говорити) 21:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

It looks good to me. Good job! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:26, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Ukrainian presidential election, 2014

Hey, could you please check that article for me? I have one user who continues to set subsections "With Yanukovych" and "With Tihipko". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 05:00, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I think that that actually makes a lot of sense. After all Yanu was a leading candidate till he left office. Plus this gives people a change to compare the ratings of Party of Regions since Yanu left office. ("left office" used here for NPOV-reasons...) — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:17, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks. Lately I am not very active on Wikipedia.... Because of the current situation in Ukraine I can not find much enjoyment in it... (I usually edit (Ukrainian) political stuff.) I will keep this message here and when I will become more active on Wikipedia I will give the article a useful hand. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Draft:2014 Ukrainian crisis

As I mentioned at Talk:2014 pro-Russian protests in Ukraine, I'd like to start a new summary article to deal with the vast scope of the Ukrainian crisis, and direct people to the appropriate places. I've started such a draft at Draft:2014 Ukrainian crisis, and could use your valuable help in getting it up to snuff. Please do assist in that regard. I've given my proposal more detail at the pro-Russian protests article talk page. RGloucester — ☎ 20:12, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I am WikiOgre-ing these days. (After all) Wikipedia is one of my hobbies, but (because of the current atmosphere among editors on pages about my favourite subjects) I am pursuing other interests these days. Thanks for your faith in me and thanks for your great and helpfull contribution to Wikipedia.
— Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Your contributions have always been appreciated, especially in the sea of constant socks, POV pushers, single purpose accounts that have proliferated these days. RGloucester — ☎ 18:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks mate! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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Igor Girkin

Hey, I just cleanup-rewrote this article, and added info about his crimes in Chechnya. Maybe you might be interested in at least briefly updating the article for the events of May-August? (Including his order to shoot two of his own men.) --SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, don't know much about the men..... And I don't fancy getting to know him better.... The only separatists I find interesting are Denis Pushilin and Oleg Tsaryov. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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Nabak-o-note

By the way, the Democratic Party of Ukraine has a cute logo, just wanted to share... Regards, --Nabak (talk) 04:48, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, and yes it is a cute logo. Nice to know somebody else but me is interesting in uploading these logo's. Since I feel a long Wikibreak of myself coming up.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 15:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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First Lady of Ukraine

Hi Yulia Romero! I created a new article about Maryna Poroshenko and I'd like to find a free image. There's nothing on Commons. Can you recommend a good place to look? Where do you look for photos of Yulia and what is the criteria? For example, a US government photographer taking a photo as part of his/her job, the photo is automatically in the public domain. Is there something similar in Ukraine? Thanks in advance for your advice. USchick (talk) 04:02, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the external links! USchick (talk) 16:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi and your welcome! The external links were all I could think of to overcome your problem (after coping the idea of the Azov Battalion Wiki-page). This is the best I can come up with since Ukraine does not seem to have a "photo automatically in the public domain"-thingy.... Sometimes you can find free images on Flickr. I already checked and no pics of her are to be found there..... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:22, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, I guess that's all we can do for now. Maybe as she gets more visible, there will be more photos. USchick (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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I noticed you have reverted all my edits on changing the map for the Ukrainian oblasts. Leaving the map in which Crimea is depicted as a sovereign part of Ukraine is POV pushing. Crimea is a disputed region and it should be depicted as such for NPOV. --KronosLine (talk) 03:22, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I did not notice that in the maps Crimea was in a different colour then places that are not part of Ukraine (also known as other countries). Anonimu's reason for reverting my edits was better then yours. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 15:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Exactly, Crimea was depicted in light grey which is a common colour for depicting disputed regions for location maps. Just like on commons:File:Ukraine location map.svg. If Crimea is depicted the same colour as any other region of Ukraine that is POV pushing, and if Crimea is depicted the same colour as Russia that of course is also POV pushing. The only way to represent Crimea in NPOV is representing it as a disputed region. --KronosLine (talk) 16:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Feitlebaum. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Putin khuilo! seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Feitlebaum (talk) 19:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

No offence; but you got this wrong.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:08, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@Feitlebaum:. I agree. Yulia's wording improved the NPOV. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Well, your edit added:

During the (what they saw as) Russian intervention and partial occupation of Ukraine...

But the Russians did invade the Ukraine. This particular wording , it seems to me, says that they didn't actually invade: it was just the Ukrainian protesters who thought they were invading.

Of course, that's just my opinion, and I can see your point of view. Anyway, I hope that explains why I decided to revert, and I apologize for any misunderstanding. Have a great day! Feitlebaum (talk) 19:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I hope this addition to the article solved Feitlebaum's worries. The thing is that Russia claims its troops did not invade Eastern Ukraine (and even if they admitted they support the insurgents there that would not be a Russian invasion but a proxy war) and that the Russian troops of the Black Sea Fleet did do nothing during the 2014 Crimean crisis (on 17 April 2014 Putin did say Russian troops were active in Crimea during the Crimean status referendum, 2014). I must say that I am happy that Feitlebaum is on the look-out for POV-pushing. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. And it's not that I'm specifically looking for POV, I

just try to fix whatever I see that's wrong. Again, have a wonderful day! Feitlebaum (talk) 23:43, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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To avoid copyright infringement, it's necessary for us to right things in our own words. This edit uses too much text from the source. For example, you put, "a self-published newspaper in Donetsk provides the phone number for subscription into the Battalion" and "battalions can be brought under the command of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, allowing them to operate legally" whereas the source had "A self-published newspaper in Donetsk gives the phone number where "Ukrainian patriots" can sign up for the volunteer battalions" and "their battalions can be brought under the command of the interior ministry, allowing them to operate legally".

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Thank you for your care for the quality of Wikipedia. Of course I also want Wikipedia to be the best it can. Unfortunately so much is happening in Ukraine right now (the main subject of my Wikipedia-editing); and my amount of time that I can spend on Wikipedia has decreased.... So sometimes these days I have to compromise.... Better to update the article in not the best way, then not to update it... But I will try not to repeat my mistake you pointed out above! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 14:56, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

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Finally found a free image of general Poltorak to complement your tireless achievements... Best, --Nabak (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:36, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

What were you thinking?

I found your comment [3] on Talk:War in Donbass even if you believe it to be right totally in bad taste, I agree that the former president was an awful person and had to go but I do not put my personal views in the talk pages as to provoke a reaction from the other side. Doing these things can be seen as WP:BATTLEGROUND behavior. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I admit it was a mistake. In won't do it again. But I am only human and the fact that a lot of editors on Talk:War in Donbass try to impose on me/us the idea that the former president was "Mr. democracy #1" irritated me. In fact I had already decided to leave Wikipedia for a while before reading your message; it is clear I am SuperWikibonked right now. Thanks for your kind message above. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:41, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome =) yeah just take a small wiki-break then, I can understand what you must be going through over there and wish very much to see Ukraine united again. You have to remember though there is the other side if something is forum-ish just remove it. Take care! - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:03, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Відпочиньте, та поспішайте назад чим скоріше! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:51, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks (again) Knowledgekid87 for keeping me out of the kind of mess to be found under these blue words. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:10, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, wow this is the first time me seeing this well I knew it had gone to WP:ANI but didn't expect it to goto arbcom. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:08, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Stealing a userbox

Hey, I just wanted to ask, would it be OK for you if I nicked and used this userbox that you made? It would sit nicely there somewhere on my userpage. :)

Yes, that would be OK. Userboxes are made for stealing them. :) — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:10, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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Heading order

Hi Yulia. Did you mean to move the results section above the opinion polls one in the Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2014 article? Results should always come after opinion polls in section order - it should be done chronologically. See (for example) Belgian federal election, 2014, Serbian parliamentary election, 2014 etc. Cheers, Number 57 22:21, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

PS, I noticed the CVK website appears to be down - not great timing! Number 57 22:22, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

PPS, I see you did it again, so you must have meant it. Hopefully the explanation above is ok (I've restored the usual order). Cheers, Number 57 22:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for our efforts but for me readability is more important then how other pages on Wikipedia are... Most reader will find the opinion polls very uninteresting after the elections are over (I certainly do not care what some poller a few months before the election stated about Serbian parliamentary election in 2014 (since I know Eastern/Central Europe a bit I am sceptical if the can be trusted anyhow...)); so I placed them last in the article because most readers would want to read it last. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:36, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

PS, the CVK website may be under attack by anti-Ukrainian hackers (CyberBerkut have done stunts like this before). Keep in mind please that these elections are in a complete other atmosphere then the last Belgian federal election. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:36, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

It seems to be back now, but very very slow. Perhaps it's just heavy traffic... But also, about the sections, people can skip down from the content list, so I wouldn't worry about them being in the way. It is important that we have some consistency between articles. Cheers, Number 57 22:38, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it seems to be CyberBerkut who put down the CVK website, probably by artificial creating heavy traffic..... The order between sections is not a big deal for me... We will see what others will do... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:41, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Pryvit Yulia!

Hi, I hope you are doing fine. Just wanted to tell you I added a few things to Valentina Lisitsa's article... that might be of some interest... Take care, do pobachennja! Claudi/Capsot (talk) 13:42, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

DPR and LPR elections

I've started working on a new article for the DPR and LPR elections, in case you are interested. RGloucester — ☎ 18:17, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this update! I am not willing to spend lots of time in researching these DPR and LPR events. But this "The elderly should have enough money to travel to Australia at least once a year to shoot a dozen kangaroos on Safari" election promise by the DPR self-proclaimed Prime Minister was too good to miss.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:42, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy: Oh my...that's golden. RGloucester — ☎ 20:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

What a wholesome and sweet thought. I'm organising a good will welcoming committee even as they make plans. Prospective delegates from all around Australia are lining up to take classes on interpersonal skills. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I applaud your wryness. Don't forget to vote for Zakharchenko! Anyone can vote online. It's free! RGloucester — ☎ 23:43, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I've been informed that you can vote as many times as you wish, so long as you vote under a different name each time. Yay! Rumour has he's a really nice guy on the side of goodness and niceness, so I'm setting up hundreds of Yahoo & Gmail accounts even as I write. The people have spoken! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:01, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Rocky at a loss why Mr. Zakharchenko is so mad at his species.

It seems to me to be redundant that the fraud and elimination of potential candidates by very weak "technical arguments" seems to be so widespread in this election... I was in Donbass in the election campaign of the 2012 Ukrainian parliamentary election and then cities there were plastered (just like now with Zakharchenko billboards) with campaign billboards of Party of Regions, Communist Party of Ukraine and Ukraine – Forward! (other parties were hardly visible) and just like Zakharchenko now no other politicians other then from these 3 were seen on TV. Simultaneously Party of Regions bombarded people with camping goodies, leaflets at any public meeting you van imagine (making it look like they organised it) and also twice a week delivered a folder at every apartment in town (other parties were seldom distributing campaign material and then only in campaign tents). Also Zakharchenko seemed to have "stolen" from Party of Regions this "tell my aides and the problem will soon be fixed"-method. Also then Party of Regions "promised a better life tomorrow" (they did not mention kangaroos...). It seems to me that simply brainwashing voters in Donbass is enough to get them voting for you... Not to mention that all pro-Ukrainian people I knew in Donbass have all left the region for other cities in Ukraine. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

That's the truth, and it isn't pretty. The pro-Ukrainian people I know from Donetsk held out for a long time, but after the late August events they got out as quick as possible. Now they're in Kharkiv. I know some other people from northern Luhansk Oblast, but they're in the Ukrainian-controlled zone, flooded with refugees. It's just like with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Force the people that disagree with you out, and then establish a puppet state that gives the appearance of popular support. I was surprised once I saw that both the New Russia Party and the Communist Party were not allowed to participate in the elections, though. It seems Russia has had enough with the lunatics, and now wants people that can actually administer some vague form of state, like in Transnistria. RGloucester — ☎ 20:29, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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		Your continued hard work on Ukrainian-related articles has not gone unnoticed. This is especially true with regard to the article on the recent Ukrainian election, and associated articles. You've even added quite a bit of good content to the article on the farcical 2nd of November elections in Donbass. This good work deserves a reward, and as such, I'd like to induct you into the Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky. I saw in an old edit summary that you wanted someone to give you this honour years ago. Now, after years of hard work, you have it. Keep it up!
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Thanks bunches; I am thinking of a decent counter act (drum roll.....), while dancing . — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:19, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Greatly deserved. Гопа! More to the point, as we're talking Богдан Хмельницький, I'll join in on the dance.

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New UN report for Crimea

I've noticed you adding a bit of content to the Crimea article. A new report by the UNOHCHR was released recently. It details various human rights violations by the new Crimean authorities. It can be found here. Might have some useful stuff to add to that article, if you're interested. RGloucester — ☎ 03:18, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

I've been talk page 'eavesdropping' and have downloaded the report. Definitely going to give it a serious perusal when I get a moment. As an aside, Your Grace, my watchlist has been usurped by activities by serious POV pushers on articles other than the Malaysian Airline Flight 17 for a few days. I checked in on the article a couple of hours ago and, while activity has slowed down, the same old same old seems to be going on. Do you think it's still worth opening an new Arbcom, or would consider it be best to let the feathers stop flying and go in for a mop up at a later date? I've been entangled in IRL issues and feel sapped of energy. Nevertheless, there are a couple of very smug editors there who I've wanted to have stopped in their tracks at least once in order that they desist from being convinced that they're above policy, but I don't want personal grudges to cloud my judgement. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I feel like there isn't much to be done. There was clear opposition to ArbCom by certain parties, and I fear that such hostility will make it hard to go through. I'd love it if ArbCom would look at this case, but I'm not sure it is worth the effort, at present. It seems like the best that can be done is to try and contain the disruption to that page. ArbCom already has a large slate of cases on their desk at the moment, so I fear they'd be reluctant to accept this one, as well. RGloucester — ☎ 16:43, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

To answer the original question : Yes I did add content to the Crimea Republic article a few days ago; but sorry I do not feel like browsing to this UNOHCHR-report. Actually I want to cut back on editing Wikipedia to spend more time on my other hobbies.... Also because the atmosphere on Wikipedia (on Ukraine related matters) is (see Iryna Harpy's ArbCom remarks here above) not to my liking. I am fed up with people using talkpages only to push their personal ideas on others... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I can understand that completely. It has really got toxic around here, and not just in the "Eastern Europe" quarter. My only concern is that people actually use Wikipedia on an everyday basis as a source. As much as I'd like to step away, it seems wrong to let it degenerate to the point where misinformation proliferates. If I get a chance, I'll go through and add some of the Crimea stuff myself. RGloucester — ☎ 17:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I know this feeling of "if I leave Wikipedia will degenerate"; but after the times I did left Wikipedia for a long time (I is a WikiOgre). I found that it was not in such a bad shape I expected it to be in. (Must admit that at those times less people seemed to use Wikipedia for carrying on ideological battles. I hope my perception on this is wrong.) — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:55, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

New material

I have just added new content to Svyatoslav Piskun and Oleh Lyashko. Can you be so kind to see if I named the section correctly in the Oleh Lyashko article? Like, accusations sound O.K. but I am worried that it might breach our NPOV rule. Also, can you verify if the sentences that I added in both articles worth mentioning. Thanks.--Mishae (talk) 03:34, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions and your faith in my wisdom ; I did made some small changes to them.

Since I believe stuffing accusations into one section of the article is already POV. If you look at the Wikipedia:Good articles Ted Kennedy you can see that the controversies surrounding him do not have their own section put are part of another section; I just did the same to Lyashko. If Lyashko was a subject in a murder case of something similar it might be a good idea to get a section on that, but promising to beat somebody is not "big enough". BTW "Controversies" sounds more NPOV then "Accusations". — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:42, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that what I thought. But "controversies" in this article weren't a political ploy like it is with Angela Merkel article for example. Over there it have its own section by the way. So I got the idea from that one. Yes, its not yet a Good Article, but Angela Merkel article just needs a nomination and it will be good to go. In my opinion, every politician have certain "criticism" or "controversy" surrounding his or her current or past stance. So, either way, thanks for your help! --Mishae (talk) 19:00, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Argument

YR, I want you to mediate my argument with User:Sundostund about the List of chairmen of the Verkhovna Rada at User talk:Sundostund#List of chairmen of the Verkhovna Rada. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:55, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I hoped I solved this problem (between Aleksandr Grigoryev & Sundostund) with this edit. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:16, 5 December 2014

Yulia Romero, the problem is that the each member of Verkhovna Rada including the speaker represents a parliamentary factions in the Supreme Council rather than political parties (MPs are members of parliamentary factions). Of course, political parties play an important role in political life of the country, but in parliament those parties are represented by special political groups (factions) or individual members. Looking at the list it seems that People's Front got to the Verkhovna Rada before the 2014 elections, which is a total non-sense whether you added an explanation note or not. That was the main point of my argument with Sundostund. He by the way made same editions to the list with prime-ministers as well, but that, I guess, is fine although looks weird as the government is being formed once again not by individual parties. Government in Ukraine is being formed by coalition of parliamentary factions and People's Front was not among them. There is fine line between parliamentary faction and political party. MP could be a member of parliamentary faction, yet he or she may be non-partisan rather than belonging to the party which is represented by the faction.

Could you please explain how Turchynov could be a member of the People's Front's parliamentary faction before the 2014. Look at his profile at Verkhovna Rada. It says that he was member of Batkivshchyna at least until November 27, 2014 (Turchynov's profile. How is that consistent with what Sundostund created? Now Sundostund implicitly accused me trolling (when there is conflicting information from credited sources) and does not wish to discuss the issue. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Yulia Romero, as far as I'm concerned your edit is acceptable to me. As for Aleksandr's continued discussion, I already said everything what I had to say about it, and there's no need to repeat myself here. As I said about a week ago, we have to agree that we disagree. Therefore, we should let other users (like Yulia Romero) to find the best possible solution for this issue. Cheers! --Sundostund (talk) 21:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Sundostund, how do you see that working out? "We have to agree to disagree" is a way of telling me to shut up and get over it rather than finding a real consensus. Since, you here as well, how can you explain inconsistency in the information? Your edit qualifies for the Wikipedia policy of No original research as it is based only on information from a mass media completely ignoring information of the primary source. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Also Sundostund and Yulia Romero, I want you to take a look at current status of the newly elected chairman and his deputies who are all among the non-affiliated group of the parliament. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:44, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Aleksandr, "We have to agree to disagree" is a way of telling you its time to stop our discussion and to, as I said above, let other users to find the best possible solution for this issue. You have your opinion, I have mine. You won't change mine, and I respect yours although I disagree with it. Wikipedia is built on consensus, not on futile discussions. I have no wish to turn Yulia Romero's talk page into a ground for another round of our discussions, I already said what I had to say about a week ago (and I stand by it), and I'm letting other users to decide who's right in this case. --Sundostund (talk) 23:57, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Yuriy Stets / government ministers

I don't fully understand the Ukrainian political system. My understanding is that ministers in Ukraine are not members of parliament. If we he was just re-elected, does that mean he has to resign his seat in the Rada to take-up his appointment as minister of information? RGloucester — ☎ 21:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes! The Verkhovna Rada terminates the powers of members of parliament appointed to the Cabinet of Ministers. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:51, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok. I'm glad I understand. It's a bit weird to me, as I'm used to ministers being members of parliament. RGloucester — ☎ 23:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

• One more question! I want to test the waters of a potential page move. As I'm sure you're aware, we have the article Cabinet of Ukraine. I understand that the official name is "Cabinet of Ministers". However, this usage is somewhat awkward in English. In fact, the common name seems to be "government of Ukraine", and one always reads "Ukrainian government" or "government of Ukraine" in English source, not usually "Cabinet of Ministers". Given that "government" seems to be the common name, and given that it is more intuitive, I was thinking that we should move the article. I don't know if there would be any severe objections to such a move, so I thought I'd ask someone who does a lot of Ukrainian political articles. RGloucester — ☎ 02:59, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

I do not think anyone would object to this name change since indeed its wp:common name seems to be "Ukrainian government" (hence I would support moving "Cabinet of Ukraine" to "Ukrainian government". Thanks for removing Government of Ukraine; which was nothing then a wp:cfork.... Also thanks for your faith in my judgement . — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:55, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

RGloucester and Yulia Romero, another thing. Stets is a non-partisan. He was elected to parliament by the bloc, but he is not member of the party. He however was a member of parliamentary faction of the Petro Poroshenko Bloc. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure Aleksandr Grigoryev? According to this source Stets is a member of Petro Poroshenko Bloc (according to the same source his colleague Serhiy Kvit was elected as a Petro Poroshenko Bloc deputy in the last election as a non-partisan). I'm used to ministers not being members of parliament. But this Ukrainian practise that people who are not member of any party are on parties electoral lists is a bit weird to me.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Yulia Romero, you are right. For the last convocation he is a member of Poroshenko Bloc, so says his profile at Verkhovna Rada which is strange because I could bet I saw different information. The same information is at the Central Election Commission of Ukraine website which is the original source of information for the Galinfo. He however was non-partisan for previous two convocations with Batkivshchyna and Our Ukraine Bloc. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Nitpicking

I don't mean to be a nitpicker, so please forgive me for this. I've noticed that you often use "till" when writing. In written English, the word is "until". Whilst "till" does exist as a colloquial contraction in spoken English, it is never written that way in formal written English. This is just a piece of grammar advice. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. RGloucester — ☎ 18:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A picture of somebody else than my former English teacher.

I do not see your above comments as nitpicking and I am happy you pointed out this flaw in my edits. I is always happy to get some positive feedback.
(Probably) because I am not a native speaker of English I am not 100% aware of the differences between formal written English and spoken English. Now that you have pointed this out to me i realise that I indeed never saw (the word) "till" in an English book.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 23:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem! These kinds of technicalities feel odd when speaking a foreign language. Believe me, I know. When I was learning Japanese, such things overwhelmed me. RGloucester — ☎ 01:31, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

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Подяка

Чисто від мене подяка за підтримку України!!! Сподіваюсь перекладати не треба??? Jphwra (talk) 15:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Template

Thanks, I copied it off from the Ukrainian wikipedia. I know of the problem, I'm actually working on it now and trying to streamline it a little bit, just have a few kinks in the system! I can't say I agree with replacing "Convocation." That's actually the exact translation from the Ukrainian, where as session would be "сесія" § DDima 22:54, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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 Done — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Yulia!! I agree Olga Kurylenko is Ukrainian!

Hello! I noticed you also fought to correct Olga Kurylenko's description as Ukrainian, NOT French. This frustrates me and I've tried to fix it many times!! It makes me crazy. Do you want to try to fix it again? Wikimandia (talk) 12:56, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Your daily does of Ukrainophobia

Oh boy. Here it goes:

• "The state called Ukraine is an utterly artificial construct... whereas Novorossiya is a region with a long history as part of Russia"
• "Ukraine's breaking away from the USSR is exactly equivalent to the DPR and LPR's breaking away from Ukraine"
• "Ukraine shows every sign of being a failed state, which means it is no more a country than Novorossiya is"

These are the things we have to deal with in Talk:Donetsk People's Republic...--BoguSlav 02:28, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Yulia Romero!

Happy New Year!

Yulia Romero,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

Iryna passed me in greetings :) Happy New Year!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk • contribs) 01:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year! RGloucester — ☎ 17:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and also a happy new year to you all; and also a happy Christmas for those of you who celebrate it today! — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)