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Category:Books by Gwyneth Jones

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 18:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I merged all the articles in this category to Bold As Love (book series) this category is now empty Melaen 22:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:College Republicans

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 18:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is membership in a particular college club notable enough for a category? Gamaliel 19:27, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think the category needs to be overhauled, and the lone article in the cat should be deleted. But there are plenty of notable CRs (Rove, Santorum, Atwater), and the organization as a whole is an important part of the main party. (Not biased because I'm a member, btw.) Anthony 19:57, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, and I would support getting rid of all of the fraternity and college club cats. Categories should reflect something integral to the subject. As Wikipedia:Categorization states, categories should be for "subjects prominently discussed in the article." Membership in a college organization is a piece of trivia better suited for a list, such as List of College Republicans.- SimonP 00:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: agree that this should be listified. Joshbaumgartner 04:34, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I disagree with the idea of listifying it, as well. If a college student does for some reason deserve a Wikipedia article, it's going to be due to accomplishments that have nothing to do with group membership. Look at it this way: there's tens, if not hundreds, of members of the College Republicans here at Vanderbilt alone. Do they all deserve articles? No. If one of them does deserve an article, is membership in that organization going to be a meaningful part of that article? Not likely. Why, then, is membership in a College Republicans group acceptable as either category or list? The Literate Engineer 06:40, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your argument was valid up until "Look at it this way". All Wikipedia categories and lists are assumed to only include the most noteworthy individiuals who could be put there, and while saying that a category or list is too trivial ("List of people who have vacationed in Ontario"), or has too many potential members ("Category:Brunettes"), is a valid argument against a specific list or category, saying that there would be too many members if we ignored Wikipedia's notability requirements is meaningless. You could use the exact same argument against Category:Criminals, List of Scientologists, Category:Lists of writers, List of Jews from Sub-Saharan Africa, Category:1838 deaths, and hundreds of other lists, categories, and even articles. Not every member of a group has to be significant for being a member of that group to be significant when a noteworthy enough person is one. -Silence 14:29, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Time Travel films

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The result of the debate was speedy rename. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization error. I created Category:Time travel films to replace it before I remembered Categories can be renamed. I've moved all existing articles (as of this posting) from old to new category. Jeff Q (talk) 19:01, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

speedy -- Mkill 19:48, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Historic libraries to Category:Defunct libraries

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 18:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think the proposed new name reflects the original intention, and it is clearer. The ambiguity of the existing name has allowed Merton College Library to creep into the category.

  • Keep Perhaps there is a problem between extant libraries and those which no longer exist i.e. historical. This discussion smacks of pedantic frivolousness. Defunct as in meaning no longer in use DOES have unsavory connotations as even if referring to a catalogue of contents of a Library it still can be said to be functioning in its influence as in Library of Alexander of Lib. of Sir T.B... What is wrong exactly with the definition of Historic i.e no longer extant 'cos that's what they are, no longer extant, but nevertheless cannot be said to be totally defunct !!! Norwikian 08:45, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • You are confusing "Historic" and "historical". Historic does not mean "no longer existing", it means "famous or important in history or potentially so" (concise OED). Therefore it does not match the likely intentions of the creator of this category. CalJW 14:16, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per Cal. Radiant_>|< 10:48, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Historic and defunct can have very different meanings or at least insenuation mainly in notability. --StuffOfInterest 13:07, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Construction companies of the United Kingdom to Category:Construction and civil engineering companies of the United Kingdom

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 18:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The new name will match the parent category:Construction and civil engineering companies. It allows civil engineering companies which do not actually do construction work, such as ARUP, to be included, and it is helpful to have them all together. Carina22 17:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Australian rules football

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The result of the debate was no consensus --Kbdank71 18:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One of these was in speedy before. Australian Football League is a proper noun but I don't see how "Australian rules football" can be a proper noun any more than are Canadian football or American football. The article is not capitalised and the parent category is category:Australian rules football. Most of the subcategories do not capitalise Rules or Football. We should in any case be inconsistent.

Rename all CalJW 14:16, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No they aren't. Look at the official Australian Football League website. Mostly you will see all three letters A, R & F capitalized. Stop all these unnecessary and/or incorrect changes STopCat 23:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
They can spell it how they like, but wikipedia should spell it in line with normal usage. The AFL does not own the whole sport and is certainly not a lexicological authority. CalJW 05:53, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Destrons to Category:Decepticons

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The result of the debate was merge as nominated --Kbdank71 18:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Destron" is the Japanese term for "Decepticon", so under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English), we should use the term "Decepticon" throughout WP, and the category is redundant in any case.--Sean|Black 08:30, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Solid state physics to Category:Condensed matter physics

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The result of the debate was merge as nominated --Kbdank71 18:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Having both Category:Solid state physics and Category:Condensed matter physics is an unnecessary duplication which can only cause confusion. CMP is a widely accepted term which is replacing the older SSP. I propose that Category:Solid state physics be eliminated and that the articles be merged into Category:Condensed matter physics. Eventually the same merger should be completed with the articles condensed matter physics and solid state physics. Alison Chaiken 08:17, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Islamic Associations

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 19:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

more or less a copy of Category:Islamic organizations created by the author of Bay Area Shiite-Muslims Association who I think is too new to understand our categorization system. Basically, it's a semantic difference between associations and organizations chosen by whoever creates the groups. Therefore it'd be futile for us to decide which is which. I think the user created it since association is in the title of the group whose page he has created. It therefore seems to me that there is no need to have both, and I would have deleted it but I suppose it doesn't really meet any CSD. gren グレン 07:32, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Most Influential Hispanics

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 18:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Far too vague to be useful. Gamaliel 05:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:German governmant images

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The result of the debate was speedy rename -- Rick Block (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category; obvious misspelling of Category:German government images. Andrew Levine 01:14, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia recent additions

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 18:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Useless category that duplicates the purpose of Template:DYK archive nav. Not even used on all the archival pages. It makes more sense for Wikipedia:Recent additions to be in some Wikipedia category and the archive pages not to be in any category at all. --AllyUnion (talk) 01:37, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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