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Category:WCC Member Churches to Category:Members of the World Council of Churches

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Category:WARC Member Churches to Category:Members of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 23:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename [both] to clarify. Mais oui! 22:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC) and 00:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Mathematical recreations and puzzles

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 04:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I emptied this category a while ago during a reorganization, distributing its contents among various overlapping or more specific categories such as Category:Mathematical games and Category:Logic puzzles. Since it's still empty several months later, I'm deducing that no-one sees any desperate need which is not adequately covered by these other categories. —Blotwell 18:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:IEEE to Category:Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 23:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expand acro. As a member almost no one ever knew what this was unless I expanded the acro. Vegaswikian 18:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This comment is mine (I'm not using my own computer). Afonso Silva 22:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Business leaders to Category:Businesspeople

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The result of the debate was Merge. Vegaswikian 23:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge' - these are the same thing. If business people are notable enough to have their own Wikipedia biography, then they are by definition leaders within their field. There is no objective method of differentiating who goes in the main "Businesspeople" cats and who gets elevated to the priveleged status of "leaders". (Please note that this category was nominated for deletion on 30 March, 2005: the result was Keep (please see Category_talk:Business_leaders#CFD Discussion.) Mais oui! 18:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ASME Presidents to Category:American Society of Mechanical Engineers presidents

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The result of the debate was relist Tim! 11:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Expand acro to match article about group. Also cap fix. Vegaswikian 17:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Billboard Hot Dance/Club Play artists

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The result of the debate was delete Tim! 11:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This category was just deleted, but the same person chose to create it once again. Please see previous discussion and "delete" consensus here. Once again, this is an unncessary cat that will clutter pages. Wikipedia should not have categories for all the artits that have ever charted on a specific Billboard chart. If that continues, things will go out of control as users will create categories for every chart. We already have dance artist categories such as Category:American dance acts. This one has no use. --Musicpvm 17:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:23rd century

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 04:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2210s

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Category:2213

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 04:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Th[ese categories are for] more than 2 centuries in the future. Agathoclea 17:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC) [and, for Category:2213, Philip Stevens 09:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)].[reply]

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Category:Alcázars in Spain to Category:Alcázares in Spain

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The result of the debate was never tagged and no consensus Tim! 11:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from speedy after objection. Vegaswikian 17:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such a word as Alcázars in Spanish (the plural for Alcázar is Alcázares) and given that the Spanish accent has been kept, it should be moved accordingly or renamed to English equivalent (maybe Alcazar buildings in Spain?). E Asterion u talking to me? 07:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also thought of this merge. I don't know if it is more correct, but in the Spanish wikipedia, it happens like that. The Alcázares are included in the Castles category. Just one more thing, the plural is Alcázares. Afonso Silva 22:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The plural in Spanish is "alcázares". That would not be a standard English plural. If the word has been taken into English, it would generally have a normal English plural form (and it would be a little high-falutin' to write the acute accent too) so it would be "alcazars". If the word has not been taken into English, then a Spanish plural would be correct, but then it's questionable to have it as a cat name in the English Wikipedia. Compare, for example, the word portico which is of Italian origin. the Italian plural is "portichi"; in English the plural is formed in the standard manner - "porticos". Valiantis 21:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Politicians by religion

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The result of the debate was keep Tim! 11:25, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's subcategories were nominated, so I put the parent up as well. Not sure if I feel it should actually be deleted at this point, so I'll abstain Antares33712 15:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep An affiliation with a religion has an effect - one way or another - on a person. A politian stands out more in that regard. If POV is becoming a problem find a clear qualifying criteria like it has been done for Category:Roman Catholic politicians.Agathoclea 17:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep per Agathoclea Antares33712 19:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the lot of them The qualifying criteria on the RC politicians cat are "politicians who have been born or raised or later converted as Roman Catholics, they are not necessarily still Roman Catholics or any other sort of Christian, nor can their actions be considered as condoned by the Catholic church." That's not "clear qualifying criteria", that's a disclaimer. Effectively we're saying, these people were technically RC ar some point (possibly only in their childhood), though we don't for certain that they all still are (though we probably know for a fact that some have made it explicit that they are not), and when we say "Roman Catholic" they might have been raised by fervent Christian Brothers and fired with an evangelical zeal or they might have had their heads dipped for the sake of convention and never seen the inside of a church again. (BTW, no-one gets "born Catholic", at most one can be born into a Catholic family). If this is the sort of clear qualifying criteria we are going to get on all these hazy ill-defined cats then they should go and go now. Valiantis 14:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep notable unless we want specialist categories such as Category:Politicians differing from their religion's position on capital punishment or Category:Politicians differing from their religion's position on abortion etc. which are clearly as interesting and encyclopedic as "Eccentrics" and "Anti-war people" etc. categories that have been kept by this process. Carlossuarez46 20:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Neither the parent nor the subcategories should be deleted. Kestenbaum 01:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all The assertion that religion influences politics needs to be justified on a case by case basis, but the category system is too crude to do that in an appropriate manner. Osomec 16:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Religion has had an effect on politics for quite a long time. User:Dimadick
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Wikipedians who watch a channel

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 05:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians that watch TV3 to Category:Wikipedians who watch TV3
Category:Wikipedians that watch ITV1 to Category:Wikipedians who watch ITV1
Category:Wikipedians that watch ITV2 to Category:Wikipedians who watch ITV2
Category:Wikipedians that watch ITV3 to Category:Wikipedians who watch ITV3
Category:Wikipedians that watch ITV4 to Category:Wikipedians who watch ITV4
Category:Wikipedians that watch LWT to Category:Wikipedians who watch LWT
Category:User BBC One to Category:Wikipedians who watch BBC One
Category:User C-SPAN to Category:Wikipedians who watch C-SPAN

To change the word "that" to the word "who" for the first five and to have the others match.
&#151;Lady Aleena talk/contribs 14:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:German International players to Category:German international footballers

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Category:French International players to Category:French international footballers

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The result of the debate was relist for further opinions Tim! 11:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename both as the page list footballers to have played internationals for their national football team and as this how other like cat pages have been named Mayumashu 14:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Educational computer games to Category:Education computer and video games

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The result of the debate was rename Tim! 10:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Change to match other CVG categories. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Normal Pokémon to Category:Normal-type Pokémon

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The result of the debate was keep Tim! 10:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Normal" by itself just doesn't sound right, that all the other Pokémon are therefore not "normal". It really means that their type is "normal". Geopgeop 08:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. The problem with this is that people who learn there's a "Dragon Pokémon" and "Water Pokémon" will presume there's a "Normal Pokémon" category, not a "Normal-type Pokémon" category, so when new ones come out, this category is likely to be recreated. But it could be a case similar to Category:Live (band) albums, which is so named not because there's another music act named Live but because "Live albums" is a phrase that matters. Not really sure which way to go on this.--Mike Selinker 13:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose A quick google search shows that in discussions of pokemon types these are really referred to as Normal Pokemon. So I'd go with what is normal usage. --JeffW 23:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Presidents of Ryerson University

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The result of the debate was Keep. Vegaswikian 05:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Populated by an entire one person.Ardenn 03:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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U.S. State elections, 2006

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The result of the debate was Rename. Two options for the name format. Selected the nom since there was no strong objection and no support for the alternative. Vegaswikian 05:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to bring the following state elections into similar formatting (see Category:United States elections, 2006):

—Markles 01:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Legend of Zelda and Category:The Legend of Zelda to Category:The Legend of Zelda series

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The result of the debate was Do nothing. Vegaswikian 05:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are quite a few pages under the second category, and the first has been cleared out. However, in reality, the third category is the correct one, to avoid amiguity with the game The Legend of Zelda. I created the second one, and am now proposing to settle to the correct name once and for all. This change would also apply to all subcategories, see Category:The Legend of Zelda. Also see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#The Legend of Zelda for original proposal to moved from Category:Legend of Zelda to Category:The Legend of Zelda -- NTDOY Fanboy 00:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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