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List of The Octonauts DVD releases

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List of The Octonauts DVD releases (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reason MTAFOfficial (talk) 22:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC) All "sources" are just storefront listings. Nothing shows why the releases of this particular show are articleworthy compared to any other series[reply]

Willow Dawson

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Willow Dawson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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no significant coverage, mostly plagiarized from one source, not notable under WP:ARTIST LarstonMarston (talk) 16:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This page appears to be primarily used for self-promotion and does not meet the notability criteria for inclusion. The subject's accomplishments, while noteworthy on a personal level, do not seem to rise to the level of broader significance required for an encyclopedic entry. Efforts to edit and improve the article to remove non-encyclopedic content have been repeatedly overridden, with additional irrelevant and subjective content being added. This raises concerns about possible conflicts of interest or undue bias in favor of the subject. I recommend deletion due to lack of notability and the continued introduction of non-encyclopedic content. ash (talk) 18:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ashlar What content is non encyclopedic? This is pretty standard for an author, I'd say. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an encyclopedia not Linkedin or Goodreads. She's not a person of any particular note (in Canada) or otherwwise. She hasn't won any awards nor does the article disclose any lasting and significant impact in the field or on society, beyond routine career milestones. And because she's not really notable, the article relies too heavily on, and is padded with weak secondary sources.ash (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't have to be "a person of particular note", her works must be notable themself, which they are, through reviews and other content. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, disagree. WP:BIO WP:AUTHOR ash (talk) 02:13, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep seems to pass WP:NAUTHOR. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cogs Hollow

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Fails WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 19:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

58th

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58th (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:TOOSOON, the film will released on 2025 and it shouldn't create a Too Soon article and we will wait on 2025. Royiswariii Talk! 11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about switching to "draft" article rather than delete instead? I know it's too soon but it's officially confirmed by GMA that 58th will be released soon next year as long as the article has been improved with better reliable sources. GeniusTaker (talk) 12:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possible but it much better to delete it to wait a more reliable sources in 2025. Royiswariii Talk! 12:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to The Nut Job. Liz Read! Talk! 22:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surly Squirrel

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Surly Squirrel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All the sources are movie reviews and not about the character, this article shouldn't exist in the first place. Toby2023 (talk) 22:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. We have clear consensus against deletion. Whether to keep or merge some or all of this content is better suited to a talk page discussion, since we've got multiple articles to merge the content to, and it looks like it needs to be extensively trimmed down in any case. asilvering (talk) 23:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters

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List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unfortunately, this is something i don't wanna do. I understand that Lucifer Morningstar (Hazbin Hotel), Vaggie, and Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel) have all been AfD'ed before and this redirect page is really useful, but unfortunately, looking back on this, this fails WP:LIST and there is not much to say. If you wanna create a list of characters, it must discuss about the characters in groups, not standalone. I couldn't find any that discuss the characters in groups.

Again, this is something i do not wanna do, but i can't find any sources that discuss the characters in groups or anything useful, i don't know if a useful redirect target would be Hazbin Hotel#Voice cast or Helluva Boss#Voice cast or it should be deleted, whatever it is, it doesn't meet WP:LIST. Toby2023 (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, as both of these shows are covered here. The characters seem to have a lot of fluff that can likely be trimmed down and fit into the respective main articles. I feel Vaggie and Lucifer's Receptions can also likely be trimmed down extensively and slotted somewhere into their show's, especially since many of the sources are sourced to trivial mentions, content farms, or lower-end sources. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 04:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/merge per Pokelego999. The characters don't have WP:SIGCOV. This can even be split and merged into two articles, if editors agree. I support whichever target is logical, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. This article worked well before the shows had released many episodes, as it simply was a lot smaller back then. But after the release of the first season of Hazbin Hotel, the article saw a lot of content addition that falls into the category of fancruft and general is unhelpful to anyone looking for a general understanding of the series. However, one should be aware before merging the articles that this article currently lists every single character in both series. Merging them is likely to lead to edit wars regarding which secondary characters are important enough to have information written about them. Something may need to be decided as to which secondary characters are relevant enough to still be included in the main pages for the shows. Blubewwy (talk) 02:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge The three deletion discussions mentioned above should not just summarily be overturned by deletion. So at the very least the sourced reception sections with a balanced amount of plot summary should be preserved, which is kind of an akwardly large amount of information to put into the series' articles. The reception sections on Vaggie and Lucifer Morningstar alone already are beyond the length of a stub, each. If push comes to shove, Vaggie could possibly be merged to Charlie Morningstar.
This paper contains a brief observation on the characters as a group. Longer treatments can be found in these web, articles. Daranios (talk) 11:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Additional briefer characterizations of the characters as a group can be found here and here. Not to mention the many more detailed articles by ScreenRant and Comic Book Resources. Daranios (talk) 12:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And this and this web article are two more which talk about the characters as a group and are findable from the suggested target articles. So overall I feel that a WP:BEFORE search should be done with more effort than seems to have been the case here. Secondary sources discussing the items of a list as a group are the most common critereon for stand-alone lists, but they are not a "must". (WP:LISTN: "One accepted reason...".) Other considerations are outlined at WP:LISTCRITERIA. However I do feel that in this case, if we take the sources I have listed together we have enough discussion of the characters as a group to fullfill this requirement. And I believe the content can be better presented here in this list rather than in the main articles. Which does not mean the list as is cannot benefit from some trimming, but that's an editorial decision and therefore not relevant for the question of deletion. Daranios (talk) 16:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The Riddler: Secrets in the Dark

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The Riddler: Secrets in the Dark (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can't find anything on this besides casting announcements which I don't think count for notability as a routine sort of source. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature

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List of submissions for the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The topic for this list is unencyclopedic. While it is possible to find a list of submitted films by year, this is trivial information – there is a major difference between being nominated (or even shortlisted) and merely being eligible. (As a comparison, would we allow a list of every Best Picture–eligible film? I suspect not even though sources exist.) See WP:INDISCRIMINATE. RunningTiger123 (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! My bad! My apologies, 35.139.154.158! You were right and I blindly trusted the link. sorry. But who added it to the page in the first place and why??-Mushy Yank. 21:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Espngeek, why did you add it there?? -Mushy Yank. 21:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if the Animated Feature is about to be deleted, why not the Animated Short Film? Espngeek (talk) 21:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, feel free to nominate it (it might look as if you were trying to make a point, given your !vote below, but it’s your call). Still, you had added the link formatted by RunningTiger123 for this discussion to a page that was not nominated for deletion and that was quite confusing (even disruptive, I must be honest with you)! You cannot do that, I’m afraid and ”merge submissions” (bundle nominations) as you suggest below would have been possible if the nominator had wished to do so but it is not the case and in tems of procedure and good practices, your copy-paste of the template was a very bad idea. Not possible anymore with this page then. Thank you! -Mushy Yank. 21:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We got three keeps and a delete. Verdict? Espngeek (talk) 21:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing's really changed since the relisting (when it was 3 keep/2 delete counting the nomination, though it isn't a straight vote). I'd expect it to be open for at least the rest of the week – WP:NORUSH. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep You can’t delete an article because you personally don’t care about it. There are many articles I don’t care that should still exist because others want that information. You can argue that we shouldn’t keep a list of nominations either because they aren’t as important as the winners. The winners and nominations aren’t the only important films. The submissions help to understand the context around the nominations. It starts discussions about what wasn’t chosen and why. This is an article that is important to me. I use it a lot when talking about animated films and Oscar nominations for fully understanding what was happening that year. I created a Wikipedia account specifically so that I can comment to save it. AnimatedCort (talk) 22:48, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Espngeek (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I appreciate that readers use this list, arguments such as WP:ILIKEIT and WP:ITSUSEFUL are discouraged in deletion discussions. (This AfD is a good example of how those arguments can fall short.) It is better to cite specific policies and guidelines, such as how this list is notable. Regardless of the outcome, I hope you'll stick around and continue to contribute to Wikipedia! RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I find it funny that the delete voters are complaining about WP:ILIKEIT votes when fundamentally, the delete votes are WP:IDONTLIKEIT votes without a policy leg to stand on. The WP:INDISCRIMINATE argument is spurious as this list doesn't meet any of the four criteria specifically outlined in that policy. This topic passes WP:NLIST as there is WP:SIGCOV which discusses this topic directly and in detail in multiple WP:SECONDARY WP:RS. The topic has a clearly defined scope. Frankly there isn't a policy based rationale here to delete the article.4meter4 (talk) 04:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll try again to clarify what I mean by WP:INDISCRIMINATE, quoting from the policy: As explained in § Encyclopedic content above, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. A trivial accomplishment (I'll admit this part is subjective, but it's reasonable to argue a submission is trivial), even if it's true and can be sourced, does not have to be listed here. Additionally, from a different section on that page, the examples under each section are not exhaustive – hence why I cited INDISCRIMINATE even though it wasn't one of the four specific examples. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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