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Software

System Technology-i Co, Ltd

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Article about a company which doesn't seem to meet WP:CORP / WP:SIGCOV. It cites 19 sources but if you look at them, none seem to be independent reliable sources about this company. The first is an article about 100 companies doing exhibits at an event in Malaysia, just a passing mention. References 2-4 are financial reports (first party primary sources). Reference 5 is the company's defunct linkedin, references 7 and 9 are websites of the company's products. References 13 to 19 are directory listings on a business partner's website. The Yahoo article is actually a press release. That leaves only the (deleted) PDFs of articles supposedly from Nikkei Sangyo Shimbun. I can't track down the articles at this time, but with titles like "System Technology-i and Delivering training over iPad device" they sound like more press releases.

Admittedly there's a language barrier, and the company is apparently no longer in business. But none of the sources currently cited are anywhere close to being the kind of coverage we'd need to see to establish notability. Here2rewrite (talk) 00:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Micromort (software)

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While there is coverage, it seems to sufficient WP:DEPTH to justify an article (largely "we used this software"). Allan Nonymous (talk) 16:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Heisey & Fuller is a primary source, while the book source appears to mention the software only once. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 16:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cambalache Interface Designer

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No WP:SIGCOV sources given is a primary source Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 09:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I've added some secondary sources Wiktorpyk (talk) 10:52, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Miminity. Just wanted to check if the secondary sources I added are enough to address the concerns? Wiktorpyk (talk) 10:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but, some of the sources you provided are questionable in terms of reliability. See WP:PRS to see what's some of the reliable sources But again I cannot determine them at my own but some sources you added seems like a WP:USERGEN. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 10:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Glade Interface Designer#Cambalache: Per nom. Lordseriouspig 21:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thibault Duplessis

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Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. No indication of signification found in the before. scope_creep^Talk 11:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ThorVG

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Google News yield no result, This article sounds like an WP:PROMO for this. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 10:30, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have a few technical pages in my watch list and noticed that the user who created that page has edited adjacent pages, adding links to ThorVG in the see also sections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skia_Graphics_Engine&diff=prev&oldid=1244522445

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cairo_(graphics)&diff=prev&oldid=1244521334 CoderThomasB (talk) 05:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Miminity@CoderThomasB Hello, thank you for reviewing. This is one of the free open-source graphics projects run by a non-profit organization, made possible entirely through dedicated contributions from people around the world. I believe their efforts are well-deserved, just want to clarify the development history. I only added it to Skia/Cairo pages because it is good to know by people because it is closely aligned with the projects from a technical perspective. If you think it seems inappropriate by wiki policy, please let me know removing it again.

I'm having a hard time identifying the specific inappropriate points since I'm not fully enough familiar with wiki, I would appreciate it if you could point out the issues in the content. I just really hope to make it work. Thanks. Wuming421 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CoderThomasB Just googled: https://www.reddit.com/r/opengl/comments/18g9hc7/svgopengl_library_for_embedded_gpu/ Wuming421 (talk) 06:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reddit is not a reliable source see WP:REDDIT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CoderThomasB Please have a see how relevant it is among the technicians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/opengl/comments/18g9hc7/svgopengl_library_for_embedded_gpu/

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/x-org-drm/1369959-cairo-graphics-library-drops-opengl-support-after-a-decade-of-inactivity/page3

https://github.com/blend2d/blend2d/issues/3

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxnextgen/comments/1cx5v00/the_end_of_an_era_gnu_dictatorship_no_more/ Wuming421 (talk) 06:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wuming421, you've already been told this but forums like reddit, discussion boards and social media are not reliable sources to establish notability or, really, any facts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I removed the links from Cairo/Skia. Is there any other issue with the ThorVG addition? Wuming421 (talk) 07:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide links from reliable sources of significant coverage of the subject. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, this is really the hardest part to understand, in addition a new page. Because In that same manner, I also couldn't find any reliable sources from Skia/Cairo pages and links in See Also sections. They really don't have any information about relationship each other in both pages. (though I know, they are fully related/comparative each others including thorvg, so makes sense to me.) Wuming421 (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ProtoShare

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No establishment of sustained notability using WP:RS Amigao (talk) 19:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No reviews for this software, no mentions in RS. What's now in the article isn't helpful either, non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 22:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Books dedicate about a paragraph each, which isn't long enough even combined. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heimdall (software)

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Written somewhat promotionally. Also, Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. I suggest restoring the redirect that was there before it was replaced. Rusty 🐈 00:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per WP:ATD. I think there are not enough Wikipedia-suitable sources for this article. An article on the proprietary implementation of the protocol (Odin) exists and is notable, we can restore the redirect back to there. PhotographyEdits (talk) 11:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Electric Software, Inc.

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Sources are all about products made by the company, not the company itself. I could find no secondary or tertiary sources discussing the company; it fails to meet GNG or WP:NBUSINESS. The company's products seem like they may be notable, but the company itself fails notability per WP:INHERITORG. This page also appears to have been made by an undisclosed COI, as the editor who made this page has exclusively edited this article and articles about this company's software. 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I couldn't find much more about this company besides old directory listings and advertisements - nothing that would establish notability independent of any of its products. Fails GNG. MaterialsPsych (talk) 03:23, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to GlowCode as an ATD. Redirects are cheap and the article subject is mentioned in the target article. Pavlor (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: From a glance at GlowCode, I'm not confident that would survive an AfD either - can we get more discussion on whether it's a suitable redirect?
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GoJS

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Article does not cite any independent sources (except the Progopedia, which doesn't even mention GoJS). I was unable to find any myself. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Progopedia mentions Northwoods (which doesn't deserve its own article).

GoJS is mentioned elsewhere, such as on modeling-languages.com:

https://modeling-languages.com/gojs-javascript-library-build-diagrams/

https://modeling-languages.com/javascript-drawing-libraries-diagrams/

And others have written about it from a business use-cases perspective, eg:

https://sub.synergycodes.com/gojs-ebook/ Simonsarris (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not enough for it to mention something associated with GoJS; notability is not inherited. The modeling-languages.com article describes it as our software, which strongly implies that it is not strictly independent. The ebook might be a satisfactory source (as described in WP:NCORP); I can take a closer look at it later. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On another webpage, Synergy Codes describes nwoods.com as our partner's website. This strongly implies that an ebook published by Synergy Codes would not be strictly independent. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They are a consultant shop and advertise GoJS expertise - the book being essentially an ad about their knowledge - but do note they also advertise expertise in direct GoJS competitors:

https://www.synergycodes.com/react-flow (note also the same "React Flow-certified Partner")

In case it's helpful, an example of the two (GoJS and react-flow) being competitors in the wild: https://www.reddit.com/r/Frontend/comments/u8v1w5/trying_to_create_a_tool_similar_to_this_image/ Simonsarris (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stockly

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I cannot find sufficient reliable news coverage independent of the topic here, per WP:CORP Loewstisch (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete because the majority of coverage is comprised of trivial mentions, and it reads as WP:ADS --Mind-blowing blow (talk) 07:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure it's fair to say the TechCrunch, L'Usine Digitale, and Les Echos articles are trivial mentions; they're all focused on Stockly itself. But I will note that every article from the aforementioned three publications is authored by a journalist specialising in covering startups, per their respective bios, and I put very little faith in that sort of reporting ("Wow! Up-and-coming startup raised $x amount and promises to do $y thing and revolutionise the industry!" is the typical calibre). The Forbes, LSA, and Challenges articles do all appear to be trivial mentions though. GhostOfNoMeme 01:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ZWCAD

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This software page does not comply with WP:PRODUCT. It has only routine not sustained coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. Old-AgedKid (talk) 12:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Xu, Shiqi 徐诗琪 (2020-05-28). Lin, Teng 林腾 (ed.). "【独家】租来的技术却称自主产权？中望软件的核心技术之谜" [Exclusive: Rented Technology Claimed as Proprietary? The Mystery Behind ZWSOFT's Core Technology]. Jiemian News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-06. Retrieved 2024-09-06.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "Based on the prospectus, Jiemian News conducted an in-depth investigation and found that ZWCAD is actually a product developed based on a third-party kernel, and the so-called "completely independent property rights" is out of the question. The reason is that ZWCAD is not only a member of these international technology agreements mentioned in the prospectus, but its core technology comes from these two international organizations called ODA and ITC. ... Therefore, ZWCAD's software can be said to be based on the core of the ODA organization and an improved product of the IntelliCAD platform software of the ITC organization. ... In 2014, Autodesk, the parent company that developed the AutoCAD software, sued ZWCAD in the Netherlands and the United States, claiming that "AutoCAD source code was stolen and improperly used in the development of ZWCAD+.""
2. van der Velden, Ruud (2014-12-23). "Dutch judge orders disclosure of source code in China". Journal of Intellectual Property Law & Practice. Vol. 10, no. 2. pp. 83–85. doi:10.1093/jiplp/jpu227.
  The article notes from Google Translate: "In 2002, the Chinese company ZWSoft started to bring CAD programs on the market under the name ZWCAD. ZWSoft continued to develop the ZWCAD program and brought several different versions on the market over the years. In 2012, ZWSoft brought a new CAD program on the market, ZWCAD+. When introducing this program, ZWSoft indicated that ZWCADþ would be fundamentally different from ZWCAD and that it would have developed it ‘from the ground up’. ZWCAD+ could be purchased in the Netherlands through ZWSoft’s website. Autodesk took the view that ZWCAD+ was not developed ‘from the ground up’, but instead was based on the source code of Autodesk’s AutoCAD 2008 program, and that ZWSoft infringed Autodesk’s copyrights and violated its trade secrets. ... Autodesk initiated preliminary relief proceedings before the Provisions Judge of the District Court of The Hague claiming inter alia an injunction and an order for a copy of the source code of ZWCAD+ to be provided to a custodian in the Netherlands."
3. Sava, Alexandra (2018-12-13). "ZWCAD Viewer". Softpedia. Archived from the original on 2024-09-06. Retrieved 2024-09-06.
  The review notes: "ZWCAD Viewer is an application designed to help you open and analyze or make measurements on plot drawings that you have created using various CAD software solutions. The program comes with a fresh and intuitive interface, so it is unlikely that you can have any issues loading or previewing the plots. While you can preview 2D and 3D models, the application is compatible with only a few file formats, namely DWG, DWF and DWT from versions R12 to 2013. ... In the eventuality that you are looking for a straightforward and intuitive utility that enables you to open most CAD-generated drawings and examine them minutely, then perhaps ZWCAD Viewer might come in handy."
4. Sava, Alexandra (2023-08-03). "ZWCAD". Softpedia. Archived from the original on 2024-09-06. Retrieved 2024-09-06.
  The review notes: "To sum it up, ZWCAD+ is a comprehensive software solution for your architectural needs and it can provide you with a large variety of tools. You should be aware that due to its nature, this program packs several technical functions that can be difficult to understand if you do not meet certain CAD skill requirements."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow ZWCAD to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 10:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The sources given are not significant coverage, rather, they all sound like promotional or passing coverage. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Jiemian News is a source critical of ZWCAD that says, "Based on the prospectus, Jiemian News conducted an in-depth investigation and found that ZWCAD is actually a product developed based on a third-party kernel, and the so-called "completely independent property rights" is out of the question." The Journal of Intellectual Property Law & Practice article discusses Autodesk's claim in a lawsuit that ZWCAD+ was based on Autodesk's source code. These sources provide significant coverage critical of ZWCAD. Softpedia provides several detailed reviews of the product that meet Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Product reviews. Cunard (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Cunard. The sources presented don't seem promotional or passing from my look at them. The copyright dispute as well is interesting. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Subversion Software

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No RS found that uses this specific terminology to describe this class of software. Sohom (talk) 14:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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To expand more on my rationale, I'm aware (and not doubting the fact) that cybersecurity software exists that does this exact thing. However, there is literally no RS that calls it "anti-subversion software". Sohom (talk) 14:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Malware#Antivirus_/_Anti-malware_software: unless a better target can be found. Owen× ☎ 21:47, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete per WP:G3 as it is an obvious hoax, and maybe redirect it to the antivirus page. SecretSpectre (talk) 09:48, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]