Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Climate change in Turkey/archive1
- Contributor(s): Arcahaeoindris, Chidgk1
Clearly a high number of good articles providing good coverage of climate change and the corresponding energy sector. This could alternatively be under the umbrella of "Energy in Turkey" with climate change being a subsection. --Arcahaeoindris (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: Energy in Turkey definitely seems like the better main article. This topic would certainly need to include Oil in Turkey, which is not currently a GA (though it has been nominated); it should also have Geothermal energy in Turkey, which, fortunately, is already a GA. I'm adding that one to the topic box. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- It should also have Hydroelectricity in Turkey and Solar power in Turkey (both already GAs). -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Fair points, I have now changed the title to Energy in Turkey. Should Climate change in Turkey be one of the articles in the list? Arcahaeoindris (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Probably so, and it also needs Bioenergy in Turkey and Renewable energy in Turkey. Going from the article "Energy in Turkey", I think that about covers the scope. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Fair points, I have now changed the title to Energy in Turkey. Should Climate change in Turkey be one of the articles in the list? Arcahaeoindris (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- It should also have Hydroelectricity in Turkey and Solar power in Turkey (both already GAs). -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Arcahaeoindris Thank you for nominating this. @Bryanrutherford0 I would much prefer the title to be “Climate change in Turkey”. The only reason I have brought the energy articles to “good” is because (as in most countries) energy is the biggest of Greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey. I don’t know whether having an energy good topic hinders having a climate change good topic in future but if there is any chance it might I would rather scrap this. Having covered energy I am now moving on to non-energy climate change related topics such as Agriculture in Turkey. As I understand 3 articles are enough for a good topic how about the title to be “Climate change in Turkey” and articles Climate change in Turkey and Greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey and Energy in Turkey with agriculture to be added later if promoted? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- The theme running through the articles in this nomination by Arcahaeoindris is definitely energy and not climate change. If you, Chidgk1, would also like to propose a Good Topic about Climate Change in Turkey, then my question would be, what is the scope of articles that should be included, and why? Typically we would want to see the topic reflect the contents of its corresponding category (in this case, Category:Climate change in Turkey) under FT criteria 1c) and 1d). Maybe that category needs some cleanup to reflect a more appropriate scope for the topic? Prepare a convincing defense of your proposed topic scope, and then you'll have a strong proposal for a GT. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for info - I need to do a lot more work before proposing that. But can you tell me whether an article being in this proposed energy GT would be any hindrence to it also being in a future climate change GT? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not to me. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 00:14, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- In that case I have no objection to this proposal Chidgk1 (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Bioenergy in Turkey and Renewable energy in Turkey still need to be GA's, though. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- I intend to bring renewable energy to GA but not bioenergy as it is not important enough Chidgk1 (talk) 08:44, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Bioenergy in Turkey and Renewable energy in Turkey still need to be GA's, though. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- In that case I have no objection to this proposal Chidgk1 (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not to me. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 00:14, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for info - I need to do a lot more work before proposing that. But can you tell me whether an article being in this proposed energy GT would be any hindrence to it also being in a future climate change GT? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- The theme running through the articles in this nomination by Arcahaeoindris is definitely energy and not climate change. If you, Chidgk1, would also like to propose a Good Topic about Climate Change in Turkey, then my question would be, what is the scope of articles that should be included, and why? Typically we would want to see the topic reflect the contents of its corresponding category (in this case, Category:Climate change in Turkey) under FT criteria 1c) and 1d). Maybe that category needs some cleanup to reflect a more appropriate scope for the topic? Prepare a convincing defense of your proposed topic scope, and then you'll have a strong proposal for a GT. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Added Renewable energy in Turkey as this has just achieved GA status. @AirshipJungleman29: @Chidgk1: @Bryanrutherford0: any further thoughts on this? Would be good to conclude this. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 11:39, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Still looks to me like it needs Bioenergy in Turkey. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:44, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- I doubt bioenergy in Turkey has much potential for helping to fix climate change. In 2020 Ege Uni said at https://www.aa.com.tr/en/energy/geothermal-biomass/biomass-can-meet-one-third-of-turkeys-annual-power/29862 it would need government incentives. I can't see the government incentivizing this in future but if anyone knows better please let me know at Talk:Bioenergy_in_Turkey Chidgk1 (talk) 14:00, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- I suspect Turkish Airlines of greenwashing https://www.aa.com.tr/en/energy/turkey/turkish-airlines-launches-flights-using-sustainable-aviation-fuel/34554. But if the sugar beet could be increased in price a lot due to SAF demand this might help solve the obesity problem so would be great - we shall see. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- I doubt bioenergy in Turkey has much potential for helping to fix climate change. In 2020 Ege Uni said at https://www.aa.com.tr/en/energy/geothermal-biomass/biomass-can-meet-one-third-of-turkeys-annual-power/29862 it would need government incentives. I can't see the government incentivizing this in future but if anyone knows better please let me know at Talk:Bioenergy_in_Turkey Chidgk1 (talk) 14:00, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Closed with consensus not to promote - GamerPro64 00:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)