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Original Quatermass Chronology
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Bernard Quatermass | The Quatermass Experiment - Quatermass II - Quatermass and the Pit - Quatermass (TV serial) - Nigel Kneale - Rudolph Cartier |
As Quatermass (TV serial) has just made it through GAN, I'd like to nominate these articles as a featured topic. User:Angmering (who should turn up to co-nom at some point) deserves all the credit here, having promoted the six featured articles. I just got Quatermass (TV serial) up to GA-standard. This is a complete topic, Kneale and Cartier being the writers; the whole series is summed up in the main article. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 13:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support - rst20xx (talk) 17:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm - I am a bit weary of not including the films too. Perhaps change the chronology to series? Nergaal (talk) 19:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Why is The Quatermass Memoirs not included in this topic? - Joe King (talk) 20:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - Perhaps "Quatermass on television" would be a better title for the topic, if you want to exclude the films and The Quatermass Memoirs. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comment by nom It was meant to be the original TV series. If you look at the infoboxes of the different serials, they have "preceded by" and "followed by" on them so they're clearly a series of 4. Angmering, who wrote almost the entire topic, is a TV buff and knows these things. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 16:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. Let's not beat around the bush here. This is an artificial topic created specifically to exclude the Quatermass articles that aren't up to FA/GA standard in order to get a Featured Topic. We can either argue round in circles as to whether this is a legitimate topic or we can get to grips with the real task at hand - getting the remaining Quatermass articles up to scratch and then submitting them as a featured topic. There are only five articles involved - it's not a Herculean challenge. I think I have enough material lying around the house that I could rework The Quatermass Xperiment and Quatermass 2 up to GA standard. However, I'm far too busy in real life at the moment and wouldn't be able to even start work until late October/early November. The Quatermass Memoirs could probably be nominated for GA now; I don't think there's much that can be added to the article to be honest. That just leaves Quatermass and the Pit (film) and The Quatermass Experiment (2005); I'm sure there are enough good sources out there that we could get them up to GA too, if we just look. Thus, I feel that we need to have some patience, roll up our sleeves and come back here once we have all of the Quatermass articles up to the required standard. - Joe King (talk) 18:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree, my understanding is that everything to do with the original chronology is included in the topic, and the other TV/film/radio stuff is set in later, unrelated continuities. Hence, the topic name. It's true that the films were made whilst the original TV series was ongoing, but I don't see how any of these things make it such that this FTC isn't a unified topic - rst20xx (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think that Joe's suggestion is that focusing on narrative chronology or continuity is a bit arbitrary and "fannish", especially when there are only a handful of articles being excluded from the more natural topic grouping, "Quatermass". —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree, my understanding is that everything to do with the original chronology is included in the topic, and the other TV/film/radio stuff is set in later, unrelated continuities. Hence, the topic name. It's true that the films were made whilst the original TV series was ongoing, but I don't see how any of these things make it such that this FTC isn't a unified topic - rst20xx (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support I think that this makes a complete topic. Zginder 2008-10-06T16:45Z (UTC)
- Close with no consensus - I'm sorry, but I don't feel 2 supports and 1 oppose constitutes consensus - rst20xx (talk) 10:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)