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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 31 October 2021 [1].

2002 World Snooker Championship

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Nominator(s): Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the last World Snooker Championship final of the most successful player at the event Stephen Hendry. Hendry, who won the event seven times in the 1990s met Peter Ebdon and went to a deciding frame! Ebdon won the event to win his only world championship. Hendry made 16 century breaks during the event, a record amount for a single player at a single event. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Support by Amakuru

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Overview
  • Maybe mention that the world championship is an annual event
  • Also mention that it's organised by the WPBSA, and it's a bit unclear what "official" means here
  • "25th consecutive time" - maybe "consecutive year" instead?
  • "amateur qualifying tournament" - what is meant by amateur in this context? The opening sentence says it's a "professional" tournament, so seems slightly contradictory.
    • Amateur means they have amateur status, which generally means they don't compete on the World Snooker Tour. Only one person has ever actually come through the qualification rounds to play in the main competition (James Cahill in 2019). It's similar to the The Open Championship, which is a professional event, but has some of the top amateurs in qualification/invitational spots. It's generally a very small amount of amateur players who actually make the real qualification rounds (eight players in this year, it's usually 16), and then they have to go through many rounds of actual qualification. The sport does have a history of professional events also having players who don't have that status, either by wildcard rounds, or because someone pulled out. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:47, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "at Manhattan Club, Harrogate and" - need a comma after Harrogate; also just checking if it should be the Manhattan Club?
  • "played as best-of-19-frames. The number of frames needed to win a match increased to 13 in the second round and quarter-finals, and 17 in the semi-finals" - slightly confusing mix of nomenclatures here; it might be obvious, but I'd suggest either switch them all to be be consistently "best of" or "first to", or clarify that best-of-19 also means first to 10 or whatever.
  • "Stage one" / "Stage two" - what are these? Previously we talked of a "qualification stage" and a "main draw", so perhaps they're the same things, but I couldn't be certain of that
First round
  • Minor point, but we already said earlier that the rounds here were best-of-19; I guess it could be useful to reiterate, but worth thinking about
    • Yeah, I've been both ways on this one. The way I see it, is that as the amounts change, it's worth reiterating at the start of each section what the scores are going to be. We also get the chance then to comment how many sessions are being played, as it's not just 19 frames in a row. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and lead 6–3 at the end of their first session" - I think this should be "led"?
  • "and lead 6–3 at the end of their first session, and won the last frame with a break of 111 as he won 10–4" - too many ands in this sentence, and also the double "won" sounds slightly repetitive
  • "Maximum break" was first mentioned in the "Prize fund" section above, so seems like it should be linked there rather than here
  • "failing to pot the final pink ball" - slightly confused here, as the final ball should be a black. Also, during a maximum break there would only ever be one pink potted.
  • "in-a-row" - I don't think this needs hyphenating. There are a few of these throughout the article.
  • "This and the match between Hunter" - "This" sounds like it means the cue-snapping incident, so perhaps say "This match" or similar
Second round
Quarter-finals
Semi-finals
Final
  • "Ebdon (seeded seventh) and Stephen Hendry (fifth) also competed in the 1996 final. Hendry had defeated Ebdon 18–12 to gain his sixth world title in 1996" - a bit long-winded and repetitious; maybe something like "Ebdon (seeded seventh) and Stephen Hendry (fifth) had also competed in the 1996 final, with Hendry defeating Ebdon 18–12 to gain his sixth world title".
  • Sean Ingle - link
  • "Many commentators had been expecting Hendry to take his eighth world title" - this feels a bit redundant at this point; perhaps just combine the commentators' expectation with the point above about the eight million viewers anticipating the eighth world title.
  • "His defeat effectively signalled the start of his decline as a major force in the game of snooker" - sounds a bit like an opinion; suggest either attributing it to someone, or rewording to be more of an objective observation
Qualifying
  • "The final qualifying round was held at Newport on 16 and 17 March 2002" - the "Format" section earlier mentioned rounds at the Manhattan Club and the TIC, but did not mention anything about Newport. Needs a link somewhere too, not least because there is more than one Newport.
  • "the open World Championship" - what does "open" mean in this context? Also perhaps give a date of when the "open era" began if that's relevant
Additional comments

That's about it. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 13:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note

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Three weeks in and only one general support. Unless this nomination picks up further interest over the next two or three days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:32, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from zmbro

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Now I'm not knowledgeable on this subject whatsoever, but I'd thought I'd provide a few comments so it's not archived.

  • Noticing quite a few sources aren't archived and some (such as ref 48) are missing publication dates. I'd make sure all are archived and have authors/dates/etc. if applicable
    • I'll go through them all at length in a bit. I have covered ref 48.
  • Ref 42: the Guardian should be The Guardian
  • Is there any more info on the Crucible Almanac? Not seeing an isbn, publisher, or location. It also might be better to do the sfn template here

These are what I find so far. Hope I helped! – zmbro (talk) 15:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from BennyOnTheLoose

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(Note for transparency - I've contributed to this article in the past.)

Overview

  • "The World Snooker Championship is a professional tournament and the official world championship of the game of snooker" - how about "The World Snooker Championship is the official world championship of the game of professional snooker"?
  • " organised by the WPBSA" - I'd say "organised by World Snooker" (and use the same wikilink). Source has "World Snooker Limited", referring to an entity that is mainly owned by Matchroom Sport with the WPBSA holding a 26% stake. WPBSA is the governing body, so might be fine to keep that in the infobox, possibly needing a source.
  • "the sport was popular in the British Isles. However, in the modern era" - I believe this has passed inspection in other snooker FACs, but today it's making me ask "when was it popular in the British Isles, is it still?" In some articles I think this historical background is omitted, which is one option, with another being to tweak it.
  • "in Sheffield, England" appears twice in close proximity.
  • "There were a total of 120" - I think could just be "There were 120" or "A total of 120"
  • "Manhattan Club, Harrogate, the Telford International Centre and in Newport, Wales." The Newport venue was Newport Centre (Wales) according to Snooker Scene ("Final Qualifying Round Draw", March 2002, page 35)

Century breaks

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Format

Prize fund

First Round

Second round

Semi-finals

Final

Thanks, don't think I have much more. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source Review

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Pass. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:11, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Version reviewed

Comments Support from ChrisTheDude

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@FAC coordinators: - hi! Is there anything more I need for this nomination? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Lee, looks pretty much there, will probably check over in the next day or so. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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