Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2022 Hong Kong Masters/archive1

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The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 24 September 2023 [1].

2022 Hong Kong Masters

Nominator(s): Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:47, 6 August 2023 (UTC), User:HurricaneHiggins[reply]

This article is about the non-ranking professional snooker article. A crazy one time event that featured incredibly large crowds and now holds the record for the highest attendance at a snooker event. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:47, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:03, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from MyCatIsAChonk

@Lee Vilenski and HurricaneHiggins: I have no comments on the (very impressive) prose, so I'll focus on sources. I'll do a spotcheck once the following have been addressed so there's no mixups regarding numbering. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:04, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, all citations titles should use sentence case or title case
- Now in title case. 12:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Most of the Eurosport UK citations need authors
Refs 10, 12, 31 are dead
- Fixed with archives Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Refs 17, 21, 26, 30 need dates
Ref 14 needs author
For a number of the World Snooker citations, I see authors in the citations, but don't see authors in most of the actual webpages- am I missing something, or is the whole site written by "Ivan"?
- I have no idea why that happened. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks good now, great job MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport from Chris

"Following Zhao Xintong's withdrawal, his replacement Mark Williams" - both linked in the previous section so no need to link again (or use full names rather than just surname)
- Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"after Williams went in-off" - is there a link for this slightly esoteric term?
- linked Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Think that's all I got - nice one! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Easy peasy ChrisTheDude Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Reviewing this version. Spot-check upon request and warning that this isn't a topic I know well. Is snooker.org a reliable source? #19 has a byline. Otherwise, the source formatting and information seem OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Yeah, we use snooker.org as an award winning website for statistical results only (things like match results, brackets etc). I do need to write up a page for what sources are good for cue sports related media, but I've had this conversation on a series of FACs, and it's always been fine. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:24, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, any more to come on this? Gog the Mild (talk) 12:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, nothing really. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:07, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment

More than three weeks in and just the single general support. Unless this nomination makes significant further progress towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:34, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from BennyOnTheLoose

Looks in good shape. Comments to follow. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:57, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eight players were chosen to compete at the event, the six highest ranked players following the 2022 World Snooker Championship and two players from Hong Kong, Marco Fu and Ng On-yee. - feels incomplete as a sentence. Maybe a semicolon after "event", or "event. "They were..."?
- I've split this into two sentences. I think it flows better now too. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It set a new record for the largest live audience at a snooker match, with around 9,000 spectators attending the final - as it's a fairly short article, I'm not sure we need this info in lead, Format AND Final. Maybe remove from "format" and move The previous record of 3,000 spectators had been set at the 2017 edition of the event to the Final section?
- Agreed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure that snooker.org is not "in Norwegian"

Article still has this. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removed :) Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We often add cuegloss links for "frame" and "deciding frame" at their first mentions.
- Done. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
a match that lasted 52 minutes - if possible, add some context. (i.e. to explain that this is pretty quick)
- I've put "only" so we can assume it's a quick amount, rather than a long amount. It's difficult to state an amount for how quick this is
missed a red; the final blue; seventh frame on the pink; the third frame on the black - maybe add "ball" and/or cuegloss links. Does a general reader understand "won the frame on the pink" etc?
- these should be fixed now.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
the yellow pocket - I'm not sure that a general reader will understand this term. There is a cuegloss link.
- Linked. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Prize fund reference doesn't verify the highest break amount. I can probably find a source for this.
- Do you have the Snooker Scene for this event? I couldn't find much. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've added the reference. It doesn't state a total, but I make it £314,000 rather than £315,000, so I amended that in the article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The external link to Hong Kong Billiard Sports Control Council Co. Ltd. (HKBSCC) seems to be broken, and the version Archived 6 January 2020 isn't of much relevance to a 2022 event.
- Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is the external link to Leisure and Cultural Services Department (LCSD) useful?
- Removed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Snooker#Too_many_flags_(part_2) about flags in the draw. I'd suggest keeping an eye on this and possibly removing some flags.
- Seen it. Doesn't look like we're going to get a consensus really. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 28 (Eurosport) does have a readable archive); author is missing from the citation.
- Added. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry I didn't get back to this quicker. Had a long weekend. Shall take a look ASAP. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lee ? Gog the Mild (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I think that's it BennyOnTheLoose. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you're happy with the amendment to the prize fund, then just the point about the snooker.org langauge pending, Lee Vilenski. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, that's fine. Removed the lang=no. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:34, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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