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The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 21 December 2022 [1].

Can I Get It

Nominator(s): N Ø 14:43, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Adele's song "Can I Get It". Several years after the chart-conquering success of "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)", Adele and producers Max Martin and Shellback connected again to create the most "pop" moment on her album 30. Despite the odd decision of not choosing it as a single, it performed like one and reached the top 40 in all major markets. With its moans and pop-rock influences, it certainly sticks out on the otherwise depressing album. Thanks a lot to everyone who will take the time to give their feedback here.--N Ø 14:43, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image review (pass)

Everything is appropriate with File:Adele for Vogue in 2021.png, which is understandable since this image was used for previous FACs. This passes my image review. I do have a quick question. Is there a reason why an audio sample is not used in the article? I could see an argument being made for illustrating the genre or the whistle hook. I completely understand if you have already decided against an audio sample, but I wanted to check with you. I may not have time in the immediate future to do a full prose review, but I will see what I can do. Best of luck with this FAC! Aoba47 (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the somewhat late reply. I totally agree with your idea about the audio sample and I have added it now. I always look forward to a prose review from you but do not feel pressured to do one if you do not have the time.--N Ø 03:08, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologize. That's the beauty of FACs. You do not have to respond immediately and can take a few days if necessary. Thank you for addressing my question about the audio sample. I think it adds to the article. I might not have time to do a prose review as I will be focused on something off-Wiki for the upcoming weeks, but I will try to make time if the FAC is still active when I am free. Aoba47 (talk) 03:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

First two sentences are a bit brief, can you combine them?
"thrilling and wondrous bits of a new relationship" => "thrilling and wondrous parts of a new relationship" ("bits" just sounds a bit informal to me for some reason)
"She decided to have regular conversations with her son" - can you word this so it doesn't sound quite so much like she had been in the habit of not talking to him before, which I am sure wasn't the case.....?
"Shellback plays [...] and provided" - tense randomly changes mid-sentence
"Peter Piatkowski of PopMatters stated its brazen" => "Peter Piatkowski of PopMatters stated that its brazen"
"criticized its whistling" - Adele is British so UK spelling should be used and this should therefore be "criticised its whistling"
"Maura Johnston of Entertainment Weekly opined it was" => "Maura Johnston of Entertainment Weekly opined that it was"
"noted its carefree production complements its lyrics" => "noted that its carefree production complements its lyrics"
"Wood opined it lived up to its title" => "Wood opined that it lived up to its title"
I would write all the chart positions as digits
That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:53, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All done, ChrisTheDude! Thank you so much for the review :-) --N Ø 18:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:58, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47

When introducing "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)", why is it necessary to bring up its placement on the Mainstream Top 40 chart? This kind of thing is not done when introducing other songs, and it is not particularly relevant or notable to understanding that Adele has worked with Max Martin and Shellback in the past.

The critical reception for Can I Get It highlighted its radio-friendly production, and the idea that the radio success of her previous work with Martin and Shellback might have played a role in her inclinations to collaborate with them again ties in with the rest of the article in my opinion.

This quote "acoustic guitar breakdowns, slickly produced drum loops, [...] and horns" should either be attributed in the prose or paraphrased. I have a similar comment for these two quotes, "real love connection" and "set [her] free".

Keeping the "set [her] free" quote as that's directly from the lyrics.

Unless I missed it, I do not the article directly states in the prose that Shellback did the whistling. I can only see it being referenced in the "Credits and personnel" section. I can see the stomps and handclaps mentioned in the prose.
Could you explain the structure for the "Critical reception" section for me? I am not sure I follow it. For instance, I initially thought the second paragraph would focus on the whistle hook, but this hook is also brought up in the first paragraph.

The first paragraph discusses it in the context of the album and Adele's discography (that it was an outlier, standout, new territory, etc.) The second paragraph is more focused on the discussion of different production elements and is comprised of the relatively negative reviews. Third one is lyrics!

I would paraphrase the "out of place" quote. It is not a particularly strong quote, and I do not think anything would be lost in paraphrasing it instead.
Would it be worth linking earworm in the quote, its "earworm" hook?
I would link B-side as I can imagine some readers not being 100% familiar with the concept.
Would it be worth linking Frankenstein in the "Frankenstein-ian pop confection" quote? On a side note, I always find it rather annoying when people get Frankenstein's monster and Victor Frankenstein confused lol.
This may be a matter of personal preference, but the "Chart performance" section is quite small at a short paragraph. I was curious if it could be incorporated into a previous section, like the "Background" one, as it would make sense to transition from the song's release to its commercial performance. That being said, this is just a suggestion, and you can always see if other reviewers comment on this matter.
Has Adele performed this song live?

I hope these comments are helpful. Once everything has been addressed, I will be more than happy to support the FAC for promotion. Have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 22:50, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for the review! All addressed and some replies above.--N Ø 03:09, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing everything. I just have one more quick question. This part, provided the whistle, stomps, and handclaps along with Adele, reads that Shellback and Adele did the whistle while the "Credits and personnel" section only list Shellback as doing the whistle. I would appreciate some clarification here. Otherwise, this is my last point. Hope you are having a great middle of the week! Aoba47 (talk) 16:01, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oop, you're definitely right. I tried to clarify this wording a bit. Wishing you a great rest of the week as well :) --N Ø 16:27, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the kind words. I support the FAC for promotion based on the prose. Best of luck with the FAC! Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Inconsistent use of the publisher parameter -- it's used once out of the two cite news citations, and three times for the cite web citations.

That's the only thing I can spot. Sources are reliable, and all links work. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the source review, Mike! Whether I've used the work or publisher field is consistent with whether the publications are italicised in their Wikipedia article title or not. This is what I've done on all my FAs and seen on many others. There's a practice of print and digital only sources being in work, and TV channels and music stores in publisher. Regards.--N Ø 06:13, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pass. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:35, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie [Support]

User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences is the source of almost every error here. I'll support once fixed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:29, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead:

"A pop song with pop rock and country pop influences, "Can I Get It" has acoustic guitar, drum, and horn instrumentation, and a whistled hook." Drop the last comma.

Background:

"The song is about moving on from a breakup, and explores Adele's search for true love and the thrilling and wondrous parts of a new relationship." Drop the comma (User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences). (CinS)
"Adele announced the album's tracklist on 1 November 2021, which included "Can I Get It" as the sixth track." change to "Adele announced the album's tracklist, which included "Can I Get It" as the sixth track, on 1 November 2021."

Composition:

"Shellback played drums, bass, guitar, percussion, keyboards, and provided the whistle and stomps alone, and handclaps with Adele" This sentence part should be reworded.
"She expresses optimism in the song, and counts on this new affair to "set [her] free"." Remove comma (CinS)
"Peter Piatkowski of PopMatters stated that its brazen pop production felt "a bit shocking, almost disrespectful, and discordant" in the context of the album, but praised..." Remove comma (CinS)
"Writing for DIY, Emma Swann viewed "Can I Get It" as "easily Adele's most conventionally 'pop' moment to date", and added..." Remove comma before "and" (CinS)
"Maura Johnston of Entertainment Weekly opined that it was one of "a few grand pop moments" on the album, and noted that its carefree production complements its lyrics." Remove comma (CinS)
"NME's El Hunt thought the acoustic part of "Can I Get It" was bright and intriguing, but derailed by its whistled hook." Remove comma (CinS)
"Cobbald praised the harmonies in its chorus but derided it as a "2013 Kesha B-side, or something like 'Whistle' by Flo Rida", and believed it did not attain what its writers intended." Also CinS, but I'd change it to "; he believed..."
"Writing for The Independent, Annabel Nugent described the "stomp-and-clap hook" of "Can I Get It" as "most unsettling", and thought..." another CinS issue here. "thought" is not its own sentence.
"Mapes identified the whistling as a "corny '10s pop trend", and thought..." again
"as the "most obvious booster-shot-bop" on 30, and praised it as "Frankenstein-ian pop confection", but questioned" both of these commas could go.
"The latter dismissed it as less interesting than the rest of the album, and opined"

Hey Sammi Brie, I believe these should be fixed now. Thanks for your patience with me making some of the same errors repeatedly, lol.--N Ø 01:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support after changes made. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:03, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14

As promised. Sorry it took a while. It looks like this is ready for promotion and the article's coverage of the song is in-depth. Here are a few suggestions/comments:

music critics -- suggest linking to music journalism
Adele wrote the song "Can I Get It" with Swedish record producers -- co-wrote "Can I Get It" with…
wanting to be in a real relationship instead of one centred around casual sex -- perhaps use an alternative to "real" like serious or committed, etc.
the album took shape as a body of work -- I think it would be less informal if we used "the album was developed as a body of work that"

That's all I have, great work on another Adele song article. --Pseud 14 (talk) 22:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for doing this review, Pseud 14! I think a two-day wait is completely reasonable. Everything is addressed, Merry Christmas and hope your travels are going well!--N Ø 05:16, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- all the best on your FAC! Have a wonderful holidays! --Pseud 14 (talk) 13:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:01, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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