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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 20:35, 23 July 2008 [1].

Flood (Halo)

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Nominator: --David Fuchs
FAC 1, FAC 2 (18:32, 1 January 2008)

Article has failed last two FACs because of lack of responses, concerns about meeting WP:WAF, and own nominator ignorance. However, it has gone through peer review, been copyedited twice by me (although I admit I might have missed some minor things), and I added in three paragraphs of out-of-universe information, so I believe all the bases are covered. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 15:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Support - Ah, the Flood - I hated them when playing Halo 1! Couple of minor things, mostly good though:

  • Concerns of comprehensiveness issues relating to criteria 1b in the first and second FAC nominations have been resolved from what I can see.
  • The article mentions cultural impact and development. This is referenced to reliable third party sources including most importantly several published books, MTV and GameSpot.
  • My only concern with the references is http://www.cmdstore.com as a source, as it is a commercial website.
  • When citing the same book more than once, there is no need to repeat the book title, publisher, ISBN and first author name. Instead, use this format: "Nylund (2003). p. 199."
  • It also looks like the prose has been improved since the last FAC, but there might be minor stylistic things I have missed.
  • It would be nice if you could add 'p.' and 'pp.' appropriately before page numbers in the footnotes, to avoid any confusion.
  • It would also be nice if you could add a little bit more detail to some points. The merchandise, did it sell well? Also, when was each action figure released onto the market?
  • Minor prose issue: "rather than something the player happens upon and shoots." - happens upon? — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 17:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm on it. I'm not sure if I can replace all the Cmdstore refs, but I can at least do one or two. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Almost there. Ref 1 needs 'p.' in front of page number, and ref 13 needs pp. instead of p., and it needs to comply with WP:DASH. — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 19:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - So far there's a good flow, although

  • The second paragraph of the section Appearances, subsection Halo: Combat Evolved is a bit confusing. I only understood it as I have played Halo.
  • You should put a quick mention of the Flood in the Halo 2 subsection when it infected the heretic faculty. And of a mention of the Flood in the novel Halo: Ghosts of Onyx.
  • In the Halo 3 part, put a couple of examples of the new Flood forms.

Otherwise, I don't see anything to really add to the article. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From your first point, I assume you mean where the Flood cycle is explained. I've condensed it and reworded; is it better now? I've also added a passing mention to their appearance on the faculty, their confinement as of Ghosts of Onyx and a bit about the pure form. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it seems to be better now. --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 19:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Augh! I removed the peer review tag and removed the links to the page, how am I supposed to close it? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I closed the PR for you. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Instructions are at Wikipedia:Peer review, where it says "How to remove a request". — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 21:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - I did look over the sources at the peer review, and they looked fine. (I'm a she, btw, David!). Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support The sentences at the end of Flood (Halo)#Halo 2 and Ghosts of Onyx and Flood (Halo)#Halo 3 do not appear to be cited though. However, the article imo easily passes the FA criteria regardless. Thingg⊕⊗ 16:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added the citations for the two pieces in question. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 18:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, great work! --Laser brain (talk) 14:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC) Comments, leaning toward support. I corrected a few problems as I was reading, but it is basically ready. A couple questions:[reply]
    • "... the ancient Forerunner are forced to kill themselves" Here you use Forerunner as a collective noun but in the linked article, there are two versions ("The Forerunner are" and "The Forerunners are") Which is correct?
    • "The 2006 one-shot comic ..." Unsure what this means. --Laser brain (talk) 03:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's mentioned both ways, so i just changed it to plural to standardize and ill do that to the other article as well. I removed 'one-shot' as it didn't really add to the comprehension anyhow (one-shot meaning it was a single issue, not a series.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 12:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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